we went up by fiberglass hill the first day and went back in there and found a little powder. Second day we went a few miles further past fiberglass hill and found great powder. The one time 4 out of 5 sleds were stuck if that gives ya any indication. If you look hard you can find it. You could see some snow melting in the few days we were up there and if it stays hot this week it will really put a damper in it.