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Stock piling ammo

ruffy, you need to spend less time interpreting and more time reading what it says.

if you want to live in a gun free, heavy gov't country there are plenty to choose from, just get out of mine.

I'm with Ruffy on this one...this is the USA, and you dont have to agree with his opinion or ideas, but you do have to respect his right to express them. And if you dont agree with that, then you also dont support the Constitution. This isn't just YOUR country...this is OUR country.

If you're so dissatisfied with the USA, then get involved in politics and make a difference.
 
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How long do you guys let ammo sit around before you would consider it unsafe or unusuable? I'm not a fanatic, but I do own a few guns. Shotgun and Pistol for self/home defense and a AR mostly as a toy. (But it would sure come in handy in a worst case senario) I keep a few hundred rounds of each on hand at most times, but I'm leary of having too much sit around for a long time and be useless. Any thoughts?

I asked this too nobody seems to have an answer.
 
I asked this too nobody seems to have an answer.

I have been told that ammo should be used within three years. Though, I believe that if it is kept in a controlled, dry environment away from high humidity, moisture, etc. I think that it will probably last longer than we can live to shoot it. I have shot 12 gauge shotgun shells and .22 long rifle that were at least 50 years old. They shot just fine. I was given some shotgun shells that are are the paper/cardboard substance not plastic like todays. I am sure they would shoot if I tried, but don't want to. They are easily early 1900's. It just comes down to taking care of your ammo, just like you need to take care for your guns.
 
Load bl2-c(ball 2 c) powder, seal the primers with a drop of nail polish keep dry and you are good for at least 50+ years
 
I'm with Ruffy on this one...this is the USA, and you dont have to agree with his opinion or ideas, but you do have to respect his right to express them. And if you dont agree with that, then you also dont support the Constitution. This isn't just YOUR country...this is OUR country.

If you're so dissatisfied with the USA, then get involved in politics and make a difference.


I agree with ya...Ruffy, the socialist/communist can say what he likes....doesn't mean the conservative base like his type in this country and I can definitely voice that. He belongs with the French and it is my right to voice that. Liberals/socialists/communists are the cancer of this nation...Ruffy's type. I don't like his warped a$$ thinking and when it comes time to fight this cancer by other means...then let the cards fall as they will. You can interpret the Consitution however you want it to fit your socialistic agenda Ruffy. Now Ruffy run along down to Seattle and pick up your Mary Jane.
 
I agree with ya...Ruffy, the socialist/communist can say what he likes....doesn't mean the conservative base like his type in this country and I can definitely voice that. He belongs with the French and it is my right to voice that. Liberals/socialists/communists are the cancer of this nation...Ruffy's type. I don't like his warped a$$ thinking and when it comes time to fight this cancer by other means...then let the cards fall as they will. You can interpret the Consitution however you want it to fit your socialistic agenda Ruffy. Now Ruffy run along down to Seattle and pick up your Mary Jane.

So am I a socialist / communist or a liberal / socialist / communist ? Funny you imply so much as to my own point of view /opinions with what you say, yet I have not even made them known, nor have you yet to even ask my personal opinion on the subject.

You are angry... too angry it seems, as your judgments are based on perceived disagreements of morality questions... You are an interesting character. :beer;
 
So am I a socialist / communist or a liberal / socialist / communist ? Funny you imply so much as to my own point of view /opinions with what you say, yet I have not even made them known, nor have you yet to even ask my personal opinion on the subject.

You are angry... too angry it seems, as your judgments are based on perceived disagreements of morality questions... You are an interesting character. :beer;

Aren't I? Yes I am an interesting fellow and I love it when a conservative like me speaks my mind....so I am preceived as so angry. LMAO Yes you have made yourself known on your viewpoints by the way you argue...you are always one of the first to step in and argue against a conservative view point....which is great, you have the right to....like I have the right to my opinion about you and libbies. No you haven't stated your political views right out, but I can read between the lines....thats pretty easy! I am not angry....yes I am passionate about this country and libbies are the cancer....and I have no doubt you are a libbie. I am not interested in your personal opinion....call the French.
 
Ruffy where do you stand or are you just trollin for a scrap? The beauty thing about right wingers is the fact we all let everyone know where we stand! Also we stand united against the free loadin, law creating mess, called libby's. BTW 45K stached away, Libby's ran our govt too long. Also our right wing govt has stopped funding the gun reg up here soon they will mothball the whoile stupid exercise. At least 1 north american country has a conservative govt! Read em and weep my american Bros..
 
Why do you think my interpretation of what it says is equal to what my opinion is on the subject? I have not stated my opinion... Seems like with all your complaining about the USA lately, maybe you are the one that should go..... just a thought, as I kind of like it here.


ruffy, I love the usa, my constitutional rights, and my freedom.....I do wish I could have the right to vote here my tax dollars go though.....and as odd as it is to say, I am glad to hear you voice your opinion.....don't get me wrong, sometimes I want to throw up....but I am glad you speak your peace. I think it does a good job of showing how everyone feels.

I am just beyond dissapointed with what our gov't has been doing since about the time bush handed out the first round of $$$. I have a tough time understanding why we are going to take away rights instead of punish crimes.

let me ask you this, which will be more effective in slowing/stopping crime:

executing people who commit a crime with a firearm, or disarming all the citizens who will participate with the law?
 
executing people who commit a crime with a firearm, or disarming all the citizens who will participate with the law?

executing...... I totally agree in the statement that gun restrictions only effect the law abiding citizens, not those who commit crimes.
 
Ruffy where do you stand
With a left foot and a right foot. As me a specific question and you will get a specific answer. This topic got onto what I read / interpret the constitution as, no where was the subject what I think is right, or what it ought to say...
 
and I love it when a conservative like me speaks my mind....so I am preceived as so angry.

You aren't speaking your mind, your are trying to be derogatory / hurtful with your comments. It seems more like you are venting then speaking your peace.... but to each his own.
 
I'm with Ruffy on this one...this is the USA, and you dont have to agree with his opinion or ideas, but you do have to respect his right to express them. And if you dont agree with that, then you also dont support the Constitution. This isn't just YOUR country...this is OUR country.

If you're so dissatisfied with the USA, then get involved in politics and make a difference.

I have no interest in making ruffy believe what I believe. I just have a tough time understanding how the authors could have made the constitution any less simple to interpret.

I don't recall....the right to bear arms only to be hunted with, or.....the right to bear arms as long as they are never used against another man, or....the rightbear arms without ammunition, or.....the right to bear arms unless waged against the army.....or....well I think you can figure that part out.

I am 100% pissed at our gov't right now for being so dumb. look at the effects of the brady bill. not one thing changed, infact....I seem to remember a big run of school shootings that happened during the ban.

it all boils down to accountability. if you are held accountable for your actions, you will not have the opportunity to screw up twice.......if our gov't would just prossicute criminals instead of making the nra waste its $$ fighting to keep what the founding fathers gave us.

think of how happy the world would be again if we were held accountable for our actions.....of course that won't happen.
 
I have no interest in making ruffy believe what I believe. I just have a tough time understanding how the authors could have made the constitution any less simple to interpret.

I don't recall....the right to bear arms only to be hunted with, or.....the right to bear arms as long as they are never used against another man, or....the rightbear arms without ammunition, or.....the right to bear arms unless waged against the army.....or....well I think you can figure that part out.

I am 100% pissed at our gov't right now for being so dumb. look at the effects of the brady bill. not one thing changed, infact....I seem to remember a big run of school shootings that happened during the ban.

it all boils down to accountability. if you are held accountable for your actions, you will not have the opportunity to screw up twice.......if our gov't would just prossicute criminals instead of making the nra waste its $$ fighting to keep what the founding fathers gave us.

think of how happy the world would be again if we were held accountable for our actions.....of course that won't happen.

One can only hope that accountability for one's actions makes a comeback in this great country. I personally believe that lack of accountability is the root problem with our country right now ... no matter what the problem, it always seems to be someone ELSE at fault? Too much Dr. Phil, "you were wronged as a child, it's not your fault" BS has made a bunch of whiny finger-pointers out of so many in America ... makes me sad for the next generation :mad:
 
I may not agree with what you say, but i will defend your right to say it.

I don't remeber the thomas jefferson quote exactly, but sometime we might want to remember it. No i am not supporting ruffy or mps. Just saying freedom of speech should not be infringed upon, even when the speech is wrong.

now give me my m4 with a bunch of 30 round clips and lets go blow some **** up. lol

tim
 
Lets see i have 12,000 rounds of........7,000 rounds of.........3,500 vrounds of........ wait......let me think.........I have no guns so what would I need ammo for........(UNIX is cool lets me spoof IP addresses and makes the secrest service earn thier pay!!!) No guns here, just a puppet ready to please it's government!!!!!
 
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