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Vi-PEC Powersports
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i wish you guys would dyno the 600 pro to see what you get for a difference between the 6 and 8...if its even close i will wish i had bought a 600 no doubt.
Its the old HP game again. Boys its a reference / comparison tool. Each Dyno will read differently, sorry thats just how it usually is. DTR has one set, SLP has another, BMP another. You use them as a reference tool like they did if you read the post.
They dynoed two machines same day same weather and it shows the difference. The other sled they dyno is no where near what the HP claims are for that sled also. If you ran a Pro 600 on that dyno it is going to be about 25-30 HP less than what the 800 dynoed at.
The best way to use one is like they did and compare different machine same day what are the differences. or same machine on same dyno same day same settings just change pipes or heads or whatever and compare and you can see what makes a difference and by how much.
They dynoed two machines same day same weather and it shows the difference. The other sled they dyno is no where near what the HP claims are for that sled also. If you ran a Pro 600 on that dyno it is going to be about 25-30 HP less than what the 800 dynoed at.
The best way to use one is like they did and compare different machine same day what are the differences. or same machine on same dyno same day same settings just change pipes or heads or whatever and compare and you can see what makes a difference and by how much.
To go back to the point of wish I would have bought a 600.
The 600's work good, no where as powerful as the 800, approx 25 HP off the 8.
Now go get a Stage 4 Carls or slp setup and the difference between a 6 and 8 now makes that same differnce above and better than the 8 already is.
There is a great reason many builders dont give actual HP numbers, because its a changing target between different dyno's and weather and ? so many variables. But I argue for polaris probably the best company Carls cycle will instead tell you how many sled lengths better it will perform with a certain mod, which to me is what really matters, I dont care what your fancy piece of paper says. It dont mean crap when we are on the snow and I can drive circles around your piece of paper you got saying I'm Awsome. LOL guess I got carried away!
The 600's work good, no where as powerful as the 800, approx 25 HP off the 8.
Now go get a Stage 4 Carls or slp setup and the difference between a 6 and 8 now makes that same differnce above and better than the 8 already is.
There is a great reason many builders dont give actual HP numbers, because its a changing target between different dyno's and weather and ? so many variables. But I argue for polaris probably the best company Carls cycle will instead tell you how many sled lengths better it will perform with a certain mod, which to me is what really matters, I dont care what your fancy piece of paper says. It dont mean crap when we are on the snow and I can drive circles around your piece of paper you got saying I'm Awsome. LOL guess I got carried away!
No doubt a dyno is a tuning tool but those are very low numbers,thats a sick motor. DTR is like 600 feet and even the beat D8's he did were 138-140. The new six isn't 30 less. I've spoken to two dealers that put it at 130 and theres a thread on hcs saying bikeman ran it at 132 ? Who knows...
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sledstew
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Slick
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U guys are friggen hilarious. Have you ever seen these sleds work. Have you ever been present when theres been all 3 of the 800's together ? Have you ever seen the same rider on all 3 of the 800's in same conditions ? Sure one brand will best the others at one aspect, then that same one will beat the other two in another aspect, end of the day they r pretty close. I do believe the Pro hp is a TAD lower than the other 2, but end of day.........and I mean real life not 4m conjecture, it's pretty apparent they all have some weaknesses and strengths. The Doo great motor, but apparently the clutching and chassis ain't getting it done cause that extra hp isn't showing up on the snow, the Cat, awesome motor again but chassis is holding them back , Poo, less hp but hands down best at getting the power to snow and way better chassis.
The dyno charts are great to find your peak power and torque and a tuning tool but to make a buying decision based on those numbers, gonna be some disappointed sledders
They all have their strengths and weaknesses which is the reason when you get on the snow, you're gonna find they are pretty close in performance, fun factor and comfort.
I just giggle the last couple years when I hear the guys on the hill telling everyone they dynoed at 163 or 160 and their buddys sled only dynoed at 145 , then they go riding and the 145 guy is right there all day. Shouldn't the 163 hp guy be a bit embarrassed ?
I would love to see a situation where all 3 of the brands chassis and clutching had a true equal hp, now that would be a test worth noting, cause then the proof would really be in the puddin.
The dyno charts are great to find your peak power and torque and a tuning tool but to make a buying decision based on those numbers, gonna be some disappointed sledders
They all have their strengths and weaknesses which is the reason when you get on the snow, you're gonna find they are pretty close in performance, fun factor and comfort.
I just giggle the last couple years when I hear the guys on the hill telling everyone they dynoed at 163 or 160 and their buddys sled only dynoed at 145 , then they go riding and the 145 guy is right there all day. Shouldn't the 163 hp guy be a bit embarrassed ?
I would love to see a situation where all 3 of the brands chassis and clutching had a true equal hp, now that would be a test worth noting, cause then the proof would really be in the puddin.
Just curious.. What about torque numbers? I havent seen a torque comparison between the 3, if Polaris has more torque that could explain why they hold their own. Are the dyno's based on broken in engines? I've heard that the Etec 800 has a 500 mile break in period, not sure about Poo or Cat, a 0 mile dyno might not be that accurate.
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knifedge
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http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=321533
--The stock Pro at sea level used for this dyno run could not break out of high 130's HP
--It might briefly break 140hp if you fart in the intake
--The stock Pro at sea level used for this dyno run could not break out of high 130's HP
--It might briefly break 140hp if you fart in the intake
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again not getting it same dyno same day different sleds will show the difference.
I know Eric from BMP. His dyno did not dyno a 6 at 132 stock. pipe and head yes, stock no.
My brothers uncles cousin said...
Its a tuning/calibrating device.
pro 6,s and 8,s on same dyno same day have been about 25 hp difference. Its true the Polaris 8 is down about 10 HP from other brands, but it performs better on snow and thats all that matters!!!
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knifedge
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--When cylinder skirts break, it's performance is a big fat zero.
--The Pro motor appears to not even be making factory rated HP, let alone engine reliability that other brand engines achieve.
--In the deep powder West, a lot of riders run their engines at max rated HP and RPM for somewhat extended periods due to terrain and deep snow. HP and reliability really count.
--In the flats of the Midwest, WOT is rarely held open for very long
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hmm..we can roll 125 miles a day of total powder riding...all above treeline in some nasty country..most all of it pinned..my poo has done as good or better then all the other brands..day after day........and as far as reliability..does that include the whole drivetrain/sled or just the motor in your world? seems to me if the poo was that unreliable..you would have page after page of threads on owners complaining..rather then the threads we have with mostly other brand riders whining........
Where are you finding what "factory rated HP" is?
I was pretty sure they quit publishing this because people who like to argue about dyno numbers kept suing because a dyno run would come in low.
And I've towed out much more than I've been towed out since I've gotten my pro....
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Slick
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I think he rides a PC..but not sure........
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Slick
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Yeah , not trying to be ornery but it seems that the xm or pc riders post more about the bad things about a poo, which they don't own , than about the good things about the one they chose. Why do u think that is ?
