Soggy Butt Syndrome (SBS)

[Timberview01]

Anyone try the Fly snowbike pants?

Finally got two good days in with the Fly pants. The snow here is around seat depth right now, so it's all you can do to keep your helmet from filling up! Good problem to have...

The temperatures are colder than normal (single digits to mid teens) so even when sitting for long periods, the snow on the seat is not melting very much. Will have to see how they perform when the more typical temps return.

First impression is great. Very comfortable, not restrictive, the gaitors work well to stay attached to my boots and keep from riding up (very important when you are only 5-9 and the snow is over nut depth.) They are warmer than I had expected them to be. Even with the insulation removed, there is a silky liner that adds a layer. I don't generally get cold, so I prefer to just have a waterproof shell with one layer of technical layering underneath. Nike dry-fit is my personal preference. These bibs are definitely warmer than the Sled Necks pants they are replacing. Due to the depth of the snow, I did not open the vents. Maybe I'll try that today.

For the investment, I am very happy so far.

 

[jakke]

Klim havoc pants leaking Water after only 60 rides.

 

[needpowder]

Klim havoc pants leaking Water after only 60 rides.

Guaranteed waterproof. Send em back for a new pair.

 

[ravenous]

Klim havoc pants leaking Water after only 60 rides.

Hmmmmm. "Only" 60 rides? Thats about 3 seasons of riding for a lot of people. If you ride for a living, as a guide or whatever,5 days a week,thats one full season. By that time they're gonna be stinky and dirty and shredded anyway.You must do a helluvalot of riding. Thanks for filling us in that they're junk.

 

[Snowden]

anyone know about this gear ?: Strikt

looks pretty bomber - small batch made in Canada.

https://strikt.ca/shop/snow/faeder-bib-blue/

 

[M5-]

Just ran across these. Don't know anything about them.


http://www.snowbikeworld.com/2017/12/new-arctiva-vibe-snowbike-pant

M5

 

[Revv Up]

Just ran across these. Don't know anything about them.


http://www.snowbikeworld.com/2017/12/new-arctiva-vibe-snowbike-pant

M5

As good as they look and sound I’m afraid I’ve lost faith with garment manafactures who’s claims don’t hold true in real world riding. After spending close to $2000 over the years to still end up wet I am just going to buy the cheap crap and wear kayak shorts to keep the soggy bottom warm.

 

[powdermuncher]

Just a little side note -- we run snow deflectors over the open section of the track to keep the snow from hitting the hot pipe. This dramatically reduces the steam coming from the muffler and pipe and also helps with SBS. Steam is much harder on Gortex than snow or even water.

 

[TreewellDweller]

Do you have any photos of your cover that you are using and how you install it?
thanks

 

[CB_Rob]

Any new development in gear for prevention of SBS, soggy butt?

What did klim do to make there seat tougher?

The abrasion between my pants and the bike seat is something else.
Way more than on my snowmobile seat.

 

[portgrinder]

Klim havoc.

If you think they are too much money, just wait till you’ve bought 3 other pairs of junk (motorfist etc) first, and then have to buy em anyhow bc they are the only ones that work. I ride ~40 days a year and they are the only ones I’ve found that hold up

 

[w00ds3oo]

Anyone try the Fly snowbike pants?

+1 for the Fly bibs. Durable, warm and dry even with the vents open.

 

[needpowder]

Klim havoc.

If you think they are too much money, just wait till you’ve bought 3 other pairs of junk (motorfist etc) first, and then have to buy em anyhow bc they are the only ones that work. I ride ~40 days a year and they are the only ones I’ve found that hold up

I am about to buy my third pair of klim havocs. I get two years out of them and then the third year is questionable. This is year three on my second pair. I have 8 to 10 amazon stick on patches on them, most of the seams are failing and there is a hole in the bottom of one pocket. Still. Seems like they are the best option so probably about to drop another $450.

 

[M5-]

I just wash mine and use the Gore Tex waterproof spray $hit. Seems to work for about 10 rides then go again.

M5

 

[CB_Rob]

Im gonna test a pair of bibs with a leather area over the butt, as well as on the knees and in the pipe burn area of the legs.
Hope to avoid soggy butt and melted leg.

 

[M5-]

A buddy of mine did that for a few seasons, worked not bad but they weighed a ton by the end of the day.

M5

 

[CB_Rob]

There has to be a good way to make a durable waterproof butt.
I think it wouldn't even need to be breathable if its just the butt area.

I've got a dry suit that keeps water out while I sit on my ass in the raft, but I suppose its less abrasive than sliding around on a bike seat.

 

[Popik]

I just picked up a KLIM Scout Onezie. Apparently modeleld off the Havoc bibs so hoping to get a couple seasons maybe...?

Wont hold my breath but would be nice if they work better than the Ripsa gear I just thrashed.

 

[AllHatNoCattle]

Guaranteed waterproof. Send em back for a new pair.

Is there a lifetime guarantee?

 

[AllHatNoCattle]

I just picked up a KLIM Scout Onezie. Apparently modeleld off the Havoc bibs so hoping to get a couple seasons maybe...?

Wont hold my breath but would be nice if they work better than the Ripsa gear I just thrashed.

Where did you order from? I am not seeing stock anywhere on the Scout