SNOWEST FORUMS: Member Comments on "Letter to All Members"
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I absolutely can not believe all the ruffled feathers on this one. Its $9 a year for three years!!! Come on...... Really??? All the arguments and "I'm done as soon as I have to pay" threats are a little over dramatic. Is it your times of the month or what? This site used to be a lot better when there were more people that cared about snowmobiling and shared useful information and I hope this fee helps weed out the post whores that reply to every singe post with "Cool" "Thats sick" etc etc etc. just trying to get their post totals up. Personally I think one of the worst things that have happened to this site is showing the number of posts. Its just a target for people to shoot for.
My only concern is that we seemed to have lost some really good members along the way and I doubt they will come back even when the site is improved and less cluttered. I will be paying the fee when it comes available and looking forward to having a much less crowded and much more informative site back.
My only concern is that we seemed to have lost some really good members along the way and I doubt they will come back even when the site is improved and less cluttered. I will be paying the fee when it comes available and looking forward to having a much less crowded and much more informative site back.
SnoXTC,
I hear your frustration and share it, but let's not make this personal or intimidating - that's the furthers from what we want SW to be.
After all it is just a forum that has caught the bug of rediculously bad management and administration.
Nobody should be threatened about it.
MtnDoo
I hear your frustration and share it, but let's not make this personal or intimidating - that's the furthers from what we want SW to be.
After all it is just a forum that has caught the bug of rediculously bad management and administration.
Nobody should be threatened about it.
MtnDoo
I would hate to think it would ever come to that..
We'd did the same thing on the forum I currently administrate. Switched from Fusetalk to PHPBB.. at first everybody complained but a year later we have more active members now then we ever did, and not a single person ever asks for us to switch back to fusetalk. If anything it worked out better those that did complain the most and actually moved on left the forum in a better shape. Usually those the tend to scream loudest are those that cause the most trouble. Nobody wants to login to a forum and see the same cliques of users bickering day and day out. There is a cycle when it comes to users, sometimes the longer they are on a forum the more helpful they become, and sometimes the opposite effect happens they get to comfortable and take things for granted (the original reason you came to the forum in the first place) and instead of being a helpful member of the community cause nothing but trouble..those users need to purged now and then, they do nothing but drag the community down.
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If this goes through then you can delete my account. Can't see paying $15 a year just to post a reply when I can post for Free on hundreds of other sites without leaving my chair.
There are just too many other places where you can post for free.
I also wonder what it will do to your advertising dollars when SW loses the majority of its members.
My $0.02
There are just too many other places where you can post for free.
I also wonder what it will do to your advertising dollars when SW loses the majority of its members.
My $0.02
Thats It.
Your a genius.
This is all part of my master plan to wreak havoc and destruction just so I can come in and fix everything.
The Hegelian Dialectic in action.
Ya, Right.
T
TalkAK
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Come on....
Its still a great site! The amount of information you can get from this site cannot be compared. Sure its changed a bit, what doesn't. You may have to sift thru a bit of nonsense now and then to find your information but its there. I'm on board, I do not post much but do check out the site for information and riding conditions all the time. Sign me up.
Its still a great site! The amount of information you can get from this site cannot be compared. Sure its changed a bit, what doesn't. You may have to sift thru a bit of nonsense now and then to find your information but its there. I'm on board, I do not post much but do check out the site for information and riding conditions all the time. Sign me up.
Lets break this down. What is the SW forum? Simply a place where ideas can be exchanged. Does SW contribute to these ideas? Actually...No! Does SW own these ideas? Actually...No! So everything that is here was contributed by us and now they want us to pay to access our information. Is that fair? Most certainly. Do they have the monopoly on this service? Actually...no! Is the price fair? Well, it is one infinity percent higher than the other free sites. Will I pay? Probably not, or maybe give it a trial run.
To be honest, I can write every technical article ever written in snowest. I ride with a bunch of different machines and I know the strenghts and weaknesses of each or I know those that do. I have had every piece of every snowmobile I have owned in my hands. I would have needed a mallet or saw to take my sleds a part any further. Am I an expert? No. Is SW? No. Will I be paying to only contribute my knowlege? No.
I might pay for the entertainment value...but I have already canceled my cable TV. SW subscription? pretty easy to cancel that too...
To be honest, I can write every technical article ever written in snowest. I ride with a bunch of different machines and I know the strenghts and weaknesses of each or I know those that do. I have had every piece of every snowmobile I have owned in my hands. I would have needed a mallet or saw to take my sleds a part any further. Am I an expert? No. Is SW? No. Will I be paying to only contribute my knowlege? No.
I might pay for the entertainment value...but I have already canceled my cable TV. SW subscription? pretty easy to cancel that too...
Unless of course a year from now we have more active posting contributing members than we do right now.I also wonder what it will do to your advertising dollars when SW loses the majority of its members.
My $0.02
I ll take 3 years.
Do w/o all the fancy BS features..keep it free..less load on servers, less need for funding, less cost, etc etc etc...
gg..
Keep the ads and we all live happily ever after..well, sorta..
I think doing 'what it takes' to keep the forums free is the best bet at any type of success at this point.
Quite a large number of users have already been building a new user base on other forums..
/shrug
gl
gg..
Keep the ads and we all live happily ever after..well, sorta..
I think doing 'what it takes' to keep the forums free is the best bet at any type of success at this point.
Quite a large number of users have already been building a new user base on other forums..
/shrug
gl
I am not being threatening. I just think he would be safer. There are definitely some ruffled feathers here and we all know what this 4m has meant to us over the years. The debate is hot here right now, but in person who knows what might happen. I know many have taken all of this very personal and it might not take much to make it personal given the chance.
Besides, I am a woman. You think I would hit him?
Besides, I am a woman. You think I would hit him?
The magazine is always looking for excellent technical writers.
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This I find is unfair to say though, I myself joined the snowest forums, I found they were so useful that I decided to subscibe to snowest to support the forums, so if it was not for the forums, snowest would not have my subscription, and I would hazard a guess that I am not alone, does this get counted? No, its impossible to track, tracking how much money a forum is bringing in is nearly impossible, so has it REALLY been losing money when all this has been taken into account? because the forum could be directly responsible for driving traffic to your magazine! Thats something no one knows just how much snowest magazine has benefited from, to say either way if the forum has had a positive/negative impact for harris publishing as a whole is almost impossible to tell when you take into account how much traffic the site generates, and how much of that traffic has driven people to the magazine.
so....i read the first 4 pages and the last 2......\
what is paying (yes everyone can afford 10 over the course of a year) going to give me that a free online snowmobile forum cant....
such as
doo talk
totally yamaha
sled junkie
snow and mudd
back country rebals
and so on........
i come here for info and to pass the time by at work when able.....if i have a problem i post it and its fixed in less than a hour......use to use max thread because 10 to 20 members were there 24 hrs a day.......but now no telling who will stay when it comes down to it....and to pay 3 years is crazy because it could be gone or crap in 6 months.....and lots of people are only here 1/2 a year (when snows on the ground)
as for weeding out the (BAD) people.....for $1 a month or so who says they wont be here....not to name names because i have no problems with him but i know he will stay and others hate him....snowhalkaddict.....
hope its not so but sound like your paying for a product that is headed in the wrong way....slowspeeds ....over mod....and so on....
have been a member since 2002 ish (even though it says 2007 when the change started) and didnt care for post counts and green as others did.....but im going to be moving on.....maybe come in and peek around to see if the change is for the good...maybe then come back but i dont think so..........its not the money.....its the site now........the thrill is gone.......the people are going.........
what is paying (yes everyone can afford 10 over the course of a year) going to give me that a free online snowmobile forum cant....
such as
doo talk
totally yamaha
sled junkie
snow and mudd
back country rebals
and so on........
i come here for info and to pass the time by at work when able.....if i have a problem i post it and its fixed in less than a hour......use to use max thread because 10 to 20 members were there 24 hrs a day.......but now no telling who will stay when it comes down to it....and to pay 3 years is crazy because it could be gone or crap in 6 months.....and lots of people are only here 1/2 a year (when snows on the ground)
as for weeding out the (BAD) people.....for $1 a month or so who says they wont be here....not to name names because i have no problems with him but i know he will stay and others hate him....snowhalkaddict.....
hope its not so but sound like your paying for a product that is headed in the wrong way....slowspeeds ....over mod....and so on....
have been a member since 2002 ish (even though it says 2007 when the change started) and didnt care for post counts and green as others did.....but im going to be moving on.....maybe come in and peek around to see if the change is for the good...maybe then come back but i dont think so..........its not the money.....its the site now........the thrill is gone.......the people are going.........
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