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sleds VS snow bikes

How big are most of you guys that are riding bikes? I jumped on my buddy's 450 timbersled for a little bit this weekend and got the same impression I did a few years ago when I tried one: vastly underpowered to even make it fun for me. I'm 6'-2" 275lbs and I have to keep it wound out just to keep moving. Even when I ventured into the trees it was kinda the same thing. All of my friends that were 220lbs or less down to 150lbs thought it was fun. This was on pretty setup snow.

Do they all feel a little like the ski is too far under the bike and inconsistent handling? Maybe this would be better with stiffer fork springs for my weight. I feel the same as powdermuncher about the geometry. Something needs to change to make it feel natural to me. More rake on the fork or foot pegs further back so you could ride it more aggressively.

Also didn't seem to be much easier to get unstuck than a sled in a lot of situations if you are really in a pickle.






I'm 6'5" 320lbs and get along better with a 500 long track CMX, than my 800cc 154 sled.




Yea it's a little short on power, but not enough to ever make me want to ride a sled again.
 
I'm 5'9" 160# and ride a 250 smoker with a 120" kit I made myself that is 25# less than a TS ST 2015.

It rips a can lift the front easily in about any gear if you try hard enough.
 
Kept my sled one year after I bought a TS... The next year she was gone like a horror by morning!


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LOL. Why do we always have to put out how big our d**ks are in these snowbike vs. sled threads? Love them both (not the d**k) in different ways.

Right now - I gave my Turbo Pro to a kid that loves riding it. Might as well get used. But I love the feeling that beatch gives me in 2 feet of fresh, dry pow in the alpine.

The thing about bikes is that it reminds me of sledding when we(I) grew up. I knew the Phazer was not going to make it straight up the hill - I had to figure a way around (and man that Phazer was the shizzle when I was 18). We used to play all day in the meadows leading up to the alpine (cause only the mod sleds could make it up there) - but on modern sleds we were blowing by them at 100kph trying to beat everyone else for the fresh.

Maybe because I am pushing close to 50, but I like the idea of pulling off at 8km on the trail and playing in the trees on the flats for a few hours - instead of riding 35km to the alpine. Riding the snot out of the bike for 3 hours, bagging myself imagining I am Bob Hannah on snow (lol - that shows how old I am), and calling it a day. Able to get down the trail on a Saturday totally played out by 2pm, have dinner with the family and a glass of wine, rather than getting off the hill in the dark and dragging myself in at 11pm too tired to eat.

They also made the trails where I have my place on the ski hill kind of fun! Took me a bit to figure out - but now I can rail the grooming banks like berms and really have some fun. Would never have done that for an afternoon on my mountains sled(s).

P.S. Before you be snarking about being "out of shape" and old. Well - did two Ironmans last summer.... have to run after two small kids and keep up with a smoking hot 30ish wife. :)

If you don't like them - don't ride them. Simple as that. We bikers also don't have to take the bait all the time when someone posts on a thread that "snowbikes suck". We are all have way more in common than differences, and we face a common environmental enemy that wants to close the backcountry to motorized access.

I don't want too many guys riding bikes. Then I am going to have to fight for the fresh at 8Km up the trail again. :)
 
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