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CoyoteGirl
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To answer your question, I hear sex sells. . . how do you look in a thong and a beacon?
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SLEDDERS DIE IN AN AVALANCHE.....
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modsledr
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For your hard data request ... my reasons for not going most yrs:
1. I've been to two classes before (and now know it all)
2. They are expensive
3. I am busy
4. Not enough single hot ladies at the classes!
I do plan to try and make one per season... so where was that schedule again?
Thanks, this is usefull information...if you have already taken a class, I understand the reluctance to spend the time and money on another, especially once the snow falls.
The MAIN goal is to get people who HAVEN"T take a class to attend. Although a refresher is very usefull, and the curiculum is evolving over time to be more and more snowmobile specific (for example, you wont see a snowmobile class digging snow pits...why?? Waste of time with the amount of different terrain a sled can travel over during the course of a day...unless you're willing to stop and dig a pit and evaluate the snow on every different slope condition you encounter throughout the day, and I don't know many sledder who will do this).
As for the cost, ASAP is a non-profit, with VOLUNTEER instructors who are giving up more time than you in order to educate you and help to keep you alive. The expense of permits, travel costs, literature, teaching tools, etc...needs to be covered. Sponsors in this sport are VERY weary of anything avalanche related, so funding is VERY difficult.
Besides, is $120 for a full day of instruction that could help to keep you or your riding partners alive REALLY that expensive??
Once the snow starts to fly I FULLY understand the desire to be out riding, it's just that the information is TOO important to us to not get educated.
Thanks again for the usefull response.
Keep them coming!!
It is a VERY tough thing to get the snowmobile crowd, and I don't understand why. 
We hear the same excuses here. Thus a snowmobile specific Level 1 course was put together...and is offered for free through the Forest Service. The classes that cover all the other winter sports are always full, and it's lucky to get 5 or 6 at the snowmobile ones. The dates are out in advance so people can plan for it, but it's still low attendance. And the classroom time is in the evenings, so no competition for anyone's riding time.
There are other courses to take....refreshers which are free and offered at several places through the winter.
Then of course there are the pay courses put on by others.
All in all....it is frustrating. And it's exactly like modsledr stated....a death happens, then everyone is saying they want a class...but no one shows up, and the whole cycle starts over.
I'm not picking at anyone....there are many of us from all over that are trying to help, and trying to figure out how to get sledders to attend. One makes changes according to what we get told (snowmobile specific, times/dates, cost, etc)....yet even then we don't see snowmobilers.
We just have to keep plugging away...reaching a few is better than none, but it sure would be nice to see these classes filled. People that do this genuinely care about their fellow riders.
Keep up the good work B&B!
We hear the same excuses here. Thus a snowmobile specific Level 1 course was put together...and is offered for free through the Forest Service. The classes that cover all the other winter sports are always full, and it's lucky to get 5 or 6 at the snowmobile ones. The dates are out in advance so people can plan for it, but it's still low attendance. And the classroom time is in the evenings, so no competition for anyone's riding time.There are other courses to take....refreshers which are free and offered at several places through the winter.
Then of course there are the pay courses put on by others.
All in all....it is frustrating. And it's exactly like modsledr stated....a death happens, then everyone is saying they want a class...but no one shows up, and the whole cycle starts over.
I'm not picking at anyone....there are many of us from all over that are trying to help, and trying to figure out how to get sledders to attend. One makes changes according to what we get told (snowmobile specific, times/dates, cost, etc)....yet even then we don't see snowmobilers.
We just have to keep plugging away...reaching a few is better than none, but it sure would be nice to see these classes filled. People that do this genuinely care about their fellow riders.Keep up the good work B&B!
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cpatts2000
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Thanks to everyone who has posted a comment on this thread, anyway that we can get the word out is good. The reason that we do not have classes all over the state is that we are offering an "on the snow class", we can't do this everywhere, we have to have the snow and the permitting to do it legally. As far as them being to expensive, that is a b.s. answer. If you can buy a sled you can afford to take a class that may save your buddies life. I know that I would gladly give up more than the cost of a house to not lose another BEST FRIEND in an avalanche that should have and could have been avoided. We are not asking for much here, if you have been thinking about taking a class, take one so we can keep the program going. Thanks for your time
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MAC29
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...reaching a few is better than none, .
Best quote of the day. Look how long it took most people just to carry the tools of the trade(beacon,shovel,probe) let alone how to use them. Keep pestering people brent your getting through, slowly but a few is better than none.
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...reaching a few is better than none, .
Best quote of the day. Look how long it took most people just to carry the tools of the trade(beacon,shovel,probe) let alone how to use them. Keep pestering people brent your getting through, slowly but a few is better than none.
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snoboy
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The MAIN goal is to get people who HAVEN"T take a class to attend. Although a refresher is very usefull, and the curiculum is evolving over time to be more and more snowmobile specific (for example, you wont see a snowmobile class digging snow pits...why?? Waste of time with the amount of different terrain a sled can travel over during the course of a day...unless you're willing to stop and dig a pit and evaluate the snow on every different slope condition you encounter throughout the day, and I don't know many sledder who will do this.
Brent, while I agree with this for the most part I believe it's very important to learn how, why and what to look for when digging a pit. I also think that at certain areas like for example Lake Ann in which the entire area is basically western exposure and alot of riders will go there specifically to hill climb for the day, home digging a pit could benefit the entire group of riders in the area.
I only say this because it was when I actually dug a pit, drug my shovel through the layers to see how the snow can lose it's grip to itself. In our class we got to park our sleds facing down hill next to and parallel to our pits to see how the sleds weight affected the snows adhesion. Digging pits was when all of the "science" we had been taught that weekend became absolutely clear to me. For 90% of our riding your right on. I'm just saying I believe pit digging is a good skill to learn/know.
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Brent, while I agree with this for the most part I believe it's very important to learn how, why and what to look for when digging a pit. I also think that at certain areas like for example Lake Ann in which the entire area is basically western exposure and alot of riders will go there specifically to hill climb for the day, home digging a pit could benefit the entire group of riders in the area.
I only say this because it was when I actually dug a pit, drug my shovel through the layers to see how the snow can lose it's grip to itself. In our class we got to park our sleds facing down hill next to and parallel to our pits to see how the sleds weight affected the snows adhesion. Digging pits was when all of the "science" we had been taught that weekend became absolutely clear to me. For 90% of our riding your right on. I'm just saying I believe pit digging is a good skill to learn/know.
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cpatts2000
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We are teaching AWARENESS level classes, we will be offering higher level classes next year for those who are interested.
Put me on your notification list!
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modsledr
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The current class schedule can be found in the link in my first post and CoyoteGirls post: http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/137110
