Sleddeck on f-150

[NoSecondChances]

I can tell you this. My Ram is rated for 1641 lbs payload (assuming no fuel). Most trucks between brands are about 1,300 to 1,700 lbs of payload.

30 gal fuel tank = 250 lbs of fuel (full tank)
Deck = 350 lbs w/ ramp
2 sleds = 1,100 lbs (550 lbs each average for my sleds full of fuel - more likely 600lbs for most stock sleds)

This is about 1,700 lbs (not including the second occupant, spare tire, chains, tools, riding gear, etc - which is probably close to 350 lbs)

If I hit the scales on "E" in the tank and wasn't carrying any fuel in or for the sleds, I'd probably be legal, but then I'd have to no fuel for riding. Doesn't mean I'd do it, but I maybe could. The base weights usually make it look doable - until you load all the other miscellaneous crap that you have that adds up to a few hundred pounds and boom - you're overweight.

You would be likely exceeding your payload with an F-150 and a sled deck. The 09's have a max payload of 1710, depending on which motor you have. http://ngfv.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f150/specifications/payload/

Keep in mind that if you put a deck on, exceed your weight and are involved in an accident, your insurance company may void your policy (just like drinking and driving - your policy is automatically void). Just something to think about.

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[snowmobiler]

2 yamahas on a 1 ton is overweight

 

[stumpy2000]

2 yamahas on a 1 ton is overweight

2 yamahas on ANYTHING is overweight-lol

 

[polaris dude]

2 yamahas on a 1 ton is overweight

not always true, they could be phazers

 

[Cyle]

Well figure this out, 2 sleds, deck, just me and my gear, my truck tipped the scales at a hair over 10,000lbs. Sleds not full, nor the truck. Only 1300lbs left on a 1 ton. Even with one more person, some fuel, gear etc I wouldn't have much left.

The sleds are both a bit of pigs for weight, and a steel deck, but still, a 1 ton hauls a lot more then a half ton.

Lift and tires add a TON of weight.

I don't think your insurance would be affected, but a hefty fine wouldn't be fun! And having to leave stuff to get legal weight, and maybe sitting there for hours while they inspect your rig if you say anything.

 

[travydog]

what i dont understand is if your only going to haul one sled why not just throw it in the back of the pickup instead of the headache of all this with a deck?

 

[mxracer328]

Thanks for the input, definately will go with the air bag, cheap for what they are worth. I think it will look funny on my short truck but oh well, i'm gonna pull of the "F-150" from the sides of the truck... just in case i do get pulled over

pardon the mud, almost got stuck in my field

it only looks alittle funny

 

[MtnMaster]

go to your local auto wrecker, and you can usually find airbags dirt cheap. Works fine, just isn't legal...

 

[mxracer328]

how are air bags not legal

 

[Jazzman]

1/2 tons and decks

I have a 07 f-150 supercrew with the 6 foot box. I run a 7 foot marathon with the retractable sides. I have run this deck all winter with two sleds or one sled all the time for work. Spring and summer with two quads and one quad everyday for work. And pull my 29 foot travel trailer also. The firestone airbags work great. I got five years out of one set. I move them from my old 150 to my new one. In northern alberta I picked up a set for $350 and put them in myself and if you need more pressure just give them a shot with the air compressor. We have been sledding in northern B.C AND A.B for 12 years or so and have not been bothered at all. Between my brother and myself we have run 1/2 tons with decks and bags. It is hard on them if you run them loaded all the time. The only trouble I have had is the bed of the box bending under the feet. I had to add a 8x8" steel plates under each foot to help.

 

[kane13]

I have a 08 dodge 1500 last season i hauled a m8 and a rmk 900 around on a light deck i was always over a couple hundred lbs i think (of the top of my head) with my pick-up the legal axle weight is 1770 kg and i was comming in at around 1900 kg. You have to be carefull when on silck roads steering is not that good, anyways if you add a couple springs which is the cheapest way to go it bumps your payload up a bit legally. The police are really watching in B.C. right now but they won't really bother you much unless the *** end looks sagged. Either way you won't be able to carry 2 sleds on a deck in B.C. legally without modifications to your rear suspension (actually the front is close to being over as well but not) unless you got a couple 300 lbs sleds.

 

[stumpy2000]

not always true, they could be phazers

or sno scoots -loloh yeah pulling the f150 badges off-that'll fool them...not to sure but the 5 bolt wheel pattern might give you away in alberta i've seen a lotta chit that wouldn't fly in b.c.it's all about the abillity to stop,in alberta you can usually see for miles ahead of you(yet retards out here still get dead cause they can't stop in time-go figure)plus there usually isn't major amounts of snow on the road (cause it all blows to ontario) or long / steep mountainous grades (thats why you can't drive your own f150 powered b-trains in b.c.).every time i see some clown with his 1/2 ton truck pulling a 24 foot 5th wheel while dragging a 21 foot jet boat behind it -i cringe... if something happens on the freeway when you're booking along at the typical 40 km over the 110 km/hour speed limit you wouldn't have a hope in hell of surviving...an f150 (or an f250 for that matter) just doesn't have the braking power to stop that 20-24 000 pounds of toys in an emergency

 

[SAWYER]

24000 lbs? i thought we were talking about sled decks

 

[Cyle]

24000 lbs? i thought we were talking about sled decks

The fact is, people try one thing think it's ok and get carried away. His point is people do stupid things with a half ton, they are not made to pull or haul much.

The guy I bought my sled deck from last night, has a Toyota Tundra, said he hauled 2 Polaris a couple times, he KNEW he was overweight and said it handled pretty bad and the suspension was terrible as it was so heavy, alum STF deck with 2 2 strokes. And like he is said is SO true, a tundra or a half ton is a LIGHT duty truck, it's not made to be hauled heavy with all the time, you will kill it if you try to load it up all the time. He sold it to me because he knew his truck couldn't handle 2 all the time.

Point is, if you want a deck, get a 2500 or 3500 they are made for it, even a gasser, and you'll be 100x happier. Won't be ANY MPG difference with a deck and 2 sleds on with a 1/2 ton and a 1 ton with the same motor.

 

[SAWYER]

so are you guys gonna be pissed if I haul my 5th wheel with a 79 chevy luv?

 

[Cyle]

so are you guys gonna be pissed if I haul my 5th wheel with a 79 chevy luv?

I really couldn't careless if people haul things illegally. Less people on the hill hitting my powder, while the people who though they wouldn't get caught are stuck dealing with heavy fines from DOT

 

[harf69]

does that mean im illegal

 

[Tuesday]

Just a note, just because it seems to handle ok, doesn't mean it's safe or legal. If you can't do it just fine driving with it without air bags, you cannot do it. Air bags are not there to increase your load capacity, they are simply there to keep your truck level. A stock half ton I would consider it with light sleds. Lift or 4 strokes NEVER, your asking for problems. My 1 ton with 6" lift and 37" tires with a deck and two sleds you could feel it pretty good, and the wind was felt in the steering.

I can tell you right now a lifted half ton with 2 sleds you won't get very far in B.C without being pulled over, and told to leave one sled. Because it is overloaded for sure, the lift and tires add a good 300+lbs, and a half ton is REALLY pushing it as is. And the fact that it looks and is unsafe. Doesn't matter if you got air bags, the rear axle is overloaded, and pushing the brakes.

Yes you do need 3 clearance lights across the back and 1 orange front 1 red rear, don't need cab lights here, but might some places, overall width varies but 102" most places.

I really feel it is a good thing they are cracking down on it, way to many unsafe loads on the road, whether it's sleds, quads, or travel trailers. Because people with a half ton, get a deck and two sleds and say o well it handles ok, lets pull a 2 place, and have 4 guys in the cab, and overload the truck to hell, and are a huge risk to everyone else on the road.

I wouldn't do it, I can tell you right now next year will be worse yet, heard of some guys with 2500's being weighted in and overloaded, with just a deck and 2 sleds NO trailer. DOT isn't stupid, they can spot a half ton a mile away without looking at decals, and KNOW what things weight, and even if your close and still "legal" they can still tell you you aren't driving with it.

Good points. Also dont forget when DOT pulls you over they weigh you then check the sticker on the door. They could not care less about bags, tires, suspension upgrades. If you are over what the sticker says welcome to fine-ville. One of their favorite things to ask is did you upgrade your brakes as well? Regardless makes sure to get your gvw (sticker) increased as well.

My 04-2500 GMC crew cab with 2 yammis, 2 guys, full of fuel, and all the gear is right at the limit. IRC it is 9800 lbs all in. Even at that I would bet that I am over my allowed rear axle weight.

Regardless in BC a 150 will be a target for sure, if dot spots you with a deck/little alone any decent load.

GL

 

[Cyle]

Good points. Also dont forget when DOT pulls you over they weigh you then check the sticker on the door. They could not care less about bags, tires, suspension upgrades. If you are over what the sticker says welcome to fine-ville. One of their favorite things to ask is did you upgrade your brakes as well? Regardless makes sure to get your gvw (sticker) increased as well.

My 04-2500 GMC crew cab with 2 yammis, 2 guys, full of fuel, and all the gear is right at the limit. IRC it is 9800 lbs all in. Even at that I would bet that I am over my allowed rear axle weight.

Regardless in BC a 150 will be a target for sure, if dot spots you with a deck/little alone any decent load.

GL

One note about the weight, GVW isn't the thing they care about. It's front and rear axle load rating. My 1 ton is 9900 to, but axle ratings are 11400 I believe, which is what i'm allowed. As long as your tires are good for more your ok. I would of been over to if it was only 9900, i've been up to around 10800 with my deck. It's why I went to an aluminum this year, so I won't be over with a 2 place and 4 guys in the cab, though i'll sure be cutting it close.

 

[travydog]

thats one thing we dont have to worry about in the usa is if its a pickup you dont have to go threw a scale or ever get waighed. only if your a comercial vehicle. Atleast in south dakota anyway.