i would think that generally speaking that is correct! though who is right is much debated... even to the deree of resorting to TERRORISM!
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Shooting at Fort Hood
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i would think that generally speaking that is correct! though who is right is much debated... even to the deree of resorting to TERRORISM!
you can say what you want about the bible(that is a whole other debate) but my 'point of view' is what the term 'christian' historically meant, ie, as derived from the bible. it has changed dramatically over time... syncretism comes to mind!
Swampy, so what was the point of the last part of your sentence? Just another slip about how Christianity is better then Islam?
You wonder how this thread got to where we are, it is because that is where you have let the discussion. Maybe you didn't realize it, but it seems your whole point of argument is that Christianity is better then Islam. That is the comparison that you are trying to make. Wait, lets not look at history, lets look at the last 20 years. Na, lets only look at the last 2 years, and it has to be against another country or religion. Off shoot reasoning for violence from a sect of the Christian religion do not count.. LMAO.
Don't you see the parallels here? Probably not, hence why you are still
trying to argue the point.
NO!!! the thread moved in this direction because when the subject of the fort hood shooting was actually an islamic terrorist attack you liberals immediatelly attacked the Christian religion, see above post for your quote, and branded us as hatemongers and racists to which I challanged you to supply the documentation and pics. as I have done. Wiggle as you will you cannot change your quotes nor can you post any documentation of christian atrocities to compare with even one days worth of jihadist atrocities. I am sorry that bothers you so much but I will continue to post the daily activities of the jihadists until you admit there is no effort within the judeao christian religion to commit the atrocities the islamic jihadists perform daily !! Swampy
Todays statistics:
Latest Offerings from the Religion of Peace
"He who fights that Islam should be superior fights in Allah's cause"
Muhammad, prophet of Islam
2009.11.22 (Afmadow, Somalia) - At least two civilians are killed in the crossfire when rival Islamist groups clash.
2009.11.22 (Spin Boldak, Afghanistan) - All five passengers in a police vehicle are ripped to shreds by a Sunni bomb.
2009.11.21 (Jebel Rumayh, Saudi Arabia) - Shiite radicals infiltrate the border and kill three Saudi soldiers.
2009.11.21 (Mosul, Iraq) - A school teacher is assassinated by Muslim gunmen.
2009.11.21 (North Waziristan, Pakistan) - Four security officers are killed in a rocket attack by Taliban fundamentalists.
2009.11.20 (Karachi, Pakistan) - A Sunni is shot to death by sectarian rivals.
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No!! ha ha. You put Christianity on a pedestal, I am just chopping it down.
ummm... AS is a racist... I already proved that...
See there you go again, comparing Christianity to Islam (jihadists of Islam)... You keep bringing it up, I will keep talking about it.
So is this the point you are trying to prove now? You seem to change your point as much as you think I do.. ha ha..
Originally Posted by swampwater
NO!!! the thread moved in this direction because when the subject of the fort hood shooting was actually an islamic terrorist attack you liberals immediatelly attacked the Christian religion,
No!! ha ha. You put Christianity on a pedestal, I am just chopping it down.
Ruffy Post # 184
Lets lookk at the Facts:
Originally Posted by duffman
There are certainly muslims that desire peace and harmony, but they are definitely not in charge now, nor have they been for any significant period in history. To say that in general islam is a peaceful religion is foolhardy, and is definitely not supported by historical fact.
Duffman Post
The same thing could be said for Christianity. You can't be lumping these people in one big group.
There are many peaceful Islamic countries; Malaysia, Turkey, Qatar, Kuwait and Baharain. You need to keep in mind we are basically fighting a couple of sects. These sects are even terrorizing Muslims countries. Hell, even Pakistan is retaliating and fighting these sects.
Post # 23 Thomps33
First post to bring christianity into thread
This is not what the Quran teaches. The Muslim religion is as peaceful as any other religion. The guys you read about going Jihad are the extremist, the Christian equivalent of the mother that drowns her children because "god" told her to. Post # 33 MHA
Second post to bring christian into thread by MHA
No that's not true either. I can think of a ton of Jewish terrorists. How about Timothy McVeigh? Pretty sure he was a home grown good ol Christian. Post # 60 MHA
Third post to bring christian into the post and try and coimpare christian to islamic terrorists
So how do you explain the Crusades? Christians hunting down and trying to take the holy lands from the Muslim population which have lived there forever?Sorry but read up on the Koran, the real Koran and you will find it and the Muslim religion are every bit as peaceful as Christianity. Post # 61 MHA
Fourth post to compare christianity to islamic terrorists
right on!!!
lets kill all muslims..
kill all jews..
kill all the blacks
kill all the hispanics
We need America like it used to be, WHITE!!
Post # 66 Ruffy
Fifth post and I know you really meant th say WHITE CHRISTIAN as you named the other relifions above
MHA, FYI Pictures from the peaceful islamic religious demonstration from England, feel free to post your peaceful christian demonstrations. Swampy
Post # 72 Finally my post and I only posted pictures and asked for MHA's corresponding Christian pictures.
I don't think anyone is lumping every muslim into the radical group but the leadership of islam needs to take a definate stand on political as opposed to religious islam.
Post # 89 Swampy
My answer to luvtoride
Great so I will give you gthe same challange I gave to MHA and Luvetoride, since they refuse prove their statements you can do it for them, I posted in a previous post links to pictures of peacefull muslim demopnstrations in London and asked the post similar pictures of Christian demonstrations. Since you are so confident christians use god to justify I guess you call them "christian wars" You should have no problem posting the pictures, I have more from Denmark if you need to see them.
Post # 116 Swampy
My simple second request for documentation of christian terrorist activities
Christians seem to use god as a justification for war. Presidents use it in speeches, as well as other people in power. You can find those pictures on your own.
Post # 155 Ruffy
Another post by you to claim christians use God as a justification for war with no documentation.
Post # 159 MHA—Don’t need to post pic. Mcveigh, Rudolph and Koresh
Another post by MHA tring to claim two whackjobs and a branch davidian were christian terrorists, hoever the truth painted a different picture! Now who first brought CHRISTIAN into this thread?
So is this the point you are trying to prove now? You seem to change your point as much as you think I do.. ha ha..
Ruffy
Excuse me I am the only one who has stuck to the same point from my first post to this one, you are the one who keeps changing trying to wiggle out. Read my first post again.
ummm... AS is a racist... I already proved that...
Ruffy
Please post your documentation on this, this might get real interesting. Swampy
NO!!! the thread moved in this direction because when the subject of the fort hood shooting was actually an islamic terrorist attack you liberals immediatelly attacked the Christian religion,
No!! ha ha. You put Christianity on a pedestal, I am just chopping it down.
Ruffy Post # 184
Lets lookk at the Facts:
Originally Posted by duffman
There are certainly muslims that desire peace and harmony, but they are definitely not in charge now, nor have they been for any significant period in history. To say that in general islam is a peaceful religion is foolhardy, and is definitely not supported by historical fact.
Duffman Post
The same thing could be said for Christianity. You can't be lumping these people in one big group.
There are many peaceful Islamic countries; Malaysia, Turkey, Qatar, Kuwait and Baharain. You need to keep in mind we are basically fighting a couple of sects. These sects are even terrorizing Muslims countries. Hell, even Pakistan is retaliating and fighting these sects.
Post # 23 Thomps33
First post to bring christianity into thread
This is not what the Quran teaches. The Muslim religion is as peaceful as any other religion. The guys you read about going Jihad are the extremist, the Christian equivalent of the mother that drowns her children because "god" told her to. Post # 33 MHA
Second post to bring christian into thread by MHA
No that's not true either. I can think of a ton of Jewish terrorists. How about Timothy McVeigh? Pretty sure he was a home grown good ol Christian. Post # 60 MHA
Third post to bring christian into the post and try and coimpare christian to islamic terrorists
So how do you explain the Crusades? Christians hunting down and trying to take the holy lands from the Muslim population which have lived there forever?Sorry but read up on the Koran, the real Koran and you will find it and the Muslim religion are every bit as peaceful as Christianity. Post # 61 MHA
Fourth post to compare christianity to islamic terrorists
right on!!!
lets kill all muslims..
kill all jews..
kill all the blacks
kill all the hispanics
We need America like it used to be, WHITE!!
Post # 66 Ruffy
Fifth post and I know you really meant th say WHITE CHRISTIAN as you named the other relifions above
MHA, FYI Pictures from the peaceful islamic religious demonstration from England, feel free to post your peaceful christian demonstrations. Swampy
Post # 72 Finally my post and I only posted pictures and asked for MHA's corresponding Christian pictures.
I don't think anyone is lumping every muslim into the radical group but the leadership of islam needs to take a definate stand on political as opposed to religious islam.
Post # 89 Swampy
My answer to luvtoride
Great so I will give you gthe same challange I gave to MHA and Luvetoride, since they refuse prove their statements you can do it for them, I posted in a previous post links to pictures of peacefull muslim demopnstrations in London and asked the post similar pictures of Christian demonstrations. Since you are so confident christians use god to justify I guess you call them "christian wars" You should have no problem posting the pictures, I have more from Denmark if you need to see them.
Post # 116 Swampy
My simple second request for documentation of christian terrorist activities
Christians seem to use god as a justification for war. Presidents use it in speeches, as well as other people in power. You can find those pictures on your own.
Post # 155 Ruffy
Another post by you to claim christians use God as a justification for war with no documentation.
Post # 159 MHA—Don’t need to post pic. Mcveigh, Rudolph and Koresh
Another post by MHA tring to claim two whackjobs and a branch davidian were christian terrorists, hoever the truth painted a different picture! Now who first brought CHRISTIAN into this thread?
So is this the point you are trying to prove now? You seem to change your point as much as you think I do.. ha ha..
Ruffy
Excuse me I am the only one who has stuck to the same point from my first post to this one, you are the one who keeps changing trying to wiggle out. Read my first post again.
ummm... AS is a racist... I already proved that...
Ruffy
Please post your documentation on this, this might get real interesting. Swampy
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Heres todays atrocities: Swampy
Latest Offerings from the Religion of Peace
"He who fights that Islam should be superior fights in Allah's cause"
Muhammad, prophet of Islam
2009.11.22 (Mosul, Iraq) - A child is incinerated in a thermal bomb attack by Muslim terrorists.
2009.11.22 (Helmand, Afghanistan) - Taliban radicals take out three local security personnel in a roadside attack.
2009.11.22 (Garma, Iraq) - Sunnis bomb a checkpoint, killing seven Iraqis.
i suspect you are exactly right wolf...ruffy is one of those guys who likes to hear himself talk just because he is impressed with himself. 'fancies himself an intellectual'...BINGO!
It seems like I talk to a lot of people on here that are as smart as one..
Yah, I don't like people that use their brain to think either... ha ha
peat and repeat where on a fence... Wolfrun fell off, who was left?...
MTm7, your posts use to be about something, like a point, most of the times pretty good. Lately it seems all you are interested in is pointing out how much better you are then me. That is sad....
Ruffy's new tool! Swampy
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So this is what this thread has dropped to?
??????? Heres todays attacks. Swampy
Latest Offerings from the Religion of Peace
"He who fights that Islam should be superior fights in Allah's cause"
Muhammad, prophet of Islam
2009.11.24 (Khost, Afghanistan) - Four children are blown to bits when Islamic fundamentalists set off a roadside bomb next to a family vehicle.
2009.11.24 (Baghdad, Iraq) - Two Sunni imams are assassinated in separate bomb attacks.
2009.11.24 (Khost, Afghanistan) - Two women are among four civilians shot to death at point-blank range by Mujahideen.
2009.11.22 (Pattani, Thailand) - A female Buddhist teacher is gunned down in front of her home by Islamic militants.
2009.11.22 (Landikotal, Afghanistan) - The Taliban mortar a crowded bazaar, killing at least six civilians.
peat and repeat where on a fence... Wolfrun fell off, who was left?...
MTm7, your posts use to be about something, like a point, most of the times pretty good. Lately it seems all you are interested in is pointing out how much better you are then me. That is sad....
NO ruffy that is not true. i in NO way think i am better than you. quite the opposite...i know what im made of and it truly can be scary... so i have NO justifiable reason to think im better than you or anyone for that matter. just because we may disagree does not mean(or give me a justifiable excuse) to think that im better than you. even if i did think that i was better than you i would be deceiving myself.
i guess i get frustrated with your approach..and i know the exact same is probably(evidently)equally true of my approach. and for that i give you my sincere apology! 'repeat' over and out!
i guess i get frustrated with your approach..and i know the exact same is probably(evidently)equally true of my approach. and for that i give you my sincere apology! 'repeat' over and out!
What is my approach? My talking methods come mostly from digital logic.. ands ors nors nands.. maybe too cut and dry, this or that..
Though, I would think the best method of discourse is to use it against me to show me the fallacy of my logic?
I like the art of discussions, the art of trying to communicate effectively. I like being nailed down about my beliefs and having them questioned, as that way I am forced to visit those beliefs and question them myself and most of the time change the assumptions that were made that were the cause or foundation of the beliefs. It has been my experience that most of lifes problems are due to ineffective communication.
in bold: no i disagree. if you used the same standard it might be pertinent but i do not think you do. i suppose that i could say a whole bit about this but i suspect it really does not matter.
dont get me wrong ruffy... i appreciate and quite frankly am a little envious how you are gifted. you are a very bright guy(but very misguided
) that can engage in a large spectrum of conversations... most i do not dare venture into as im not versed in such subject matter nor capable. hope this clears things up... 'repeat' is out!
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Digital Logic - the foundation of all programming of digital integrated circuits. Engineering talk. That is kind of how I think and view things, from an engineering stand point.
So it has become leftie since a couple of people are no longer here? hmm... doesn't that mean it was always leftie, except for a couple of loud conservatives.
LMAO
?????? Lots of us on here still love ya, don't get frustrated. Swampy
OH Ruffy todays list, I would think even you could see a pattern here!
2009.11.26 (Yala, Thailand) - Islamists shoot a 62-year-old civilian to death as he is riding a motorbike.
2009.11.26 (Makhachkala, Dagestan) - A police officer is gunned down by Muslim militants.
2009.11.25 (Karbala, Iraq) - Five people are murdered by a brutal double bombing at a restaurant.
2009.11.25 (Tarmiya, Iraq) - A married couple and two daughters are among six innocents slain in a sectarian home invasion.
2009.11.25 (Mogadishu, Somalia) - A civilian is killed when Jihadis throw a grenade into the street.
2009.11.25 (Narathiwat, Thailand) - Islamic gunmen murder a 47-year-old man as he is returning home from a tea shop.
