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I needed to vent and see if I’m crazy, nieve, to good of a person, or if in fact I really did get screwed.
Over the summer, my buddy shared a link on his FB page regarding Dan Davidoff (Krazy Canadian), and the fact Dan was looking for a M800 pipe. I had a ceramic coated pipe off my 2010 M8 that I wasn’t using anymore. I tried selling it at our local swap meets the last two years but no takers. Figured it was my best chance to off load it, and make a little cash.
So, I PM’d Dan, and took pics of the pipe, and he liked what he seen. I noticed some rusting around the edges and I even polished the pipe before I mailed it out to him. So we started the negotiations. I started out saying $200 + shipping, OR 150 + Shipping + Krazy swag. So we agreed on $100 + shipping + Krazy Swag.
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I did a quick estimate over the UPS online and seen shipping was only “$40”. So I told Dan that I agreed with his counter of $100 + $40 shipping + swag. Dan indicated he would give me Krazy 6 & 7, Beanie & Calendar. Dan agreed that he’d be at the Puyallup, WA snow show this fall and he’d hand me the stuff. I figured this was legit and no big deal. So I’d get some cash now, and get the rest a few months later.
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So, when I went to UPS to actually ship the pipe, it came to $118 shipping (long story). Instead of backing out, because I made a deal with Dan, I kept my word and shipped him the pipe. At the same time he pay-pal’d me the $140. So, I only made $22 selling that pipe to Dan. Ok cut my losses, and learned a valuable lesson about shipping to Canada.
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Ok, fast forward to this September… I was energetic about the snow show (like we all are), but also energetic about going to Dan’s booth and picking up my gear. Well, come to find out, he bailed on the Puyallup Show and decided to go to the Edmonton Show…So, I figured ok, business decision. No big deal.<O</O
I PM’d Dan about what to do next. He “forgot” about our deal and was sorry that he wasn’t at the Puyallup show and wanted to throw me some stuff. I told him I’d rather take the cash value and call it a day.
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After discussing again, we agreed on $75, and he would pay-pal me….That was 2 weeks ago.
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So, all in all, I learned a valuable lesson. First don’t mail anything to Canada unless you positively know the cost to ship. Second, don’t trust someone who, I feel, has an influence on the sledding industry. I take myself as a trusting person. I help my buddies, lend a hand, and put them higher on the priority list when it comes to helping out because I know what it’s like needing a hand. Considering this guy is in sled films, talks about being a good ambassador to the sport, and preaches avvy safety, who would have thought he would shaft a fellow sledder.
So, whats your opinion? Did I get screwed? or am I crazy for thinking I’d be able to recover anything else. At this point I’ve written the pipe off, and any monetary compensation. Just looking to see what everyones thought are. Charitable contributions are greatly appreciated – LOL j/k.
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(Not that i think anyone willl...but If anyone is calling me a liar i can print the FB message and show you the discussions)
Over the summer, my buddy shared a link on his FB page regarding Dan Davidoff (Krazy Canadian), and the fact Dan was looking for a M800 pipe. I had a ceramic coated pipe off my 2010 M8 that I wasn’t using anymore. I tried selling it at our local swap meets the last two years but no takers. Figured it was my best chance to off load it, and make a little cash.
So, I PM’d Dan, and took pics of the pipe, and he liked what he seen. I noticed some rusting around the edges and I even polished the pipe before I mailed it out to him. So we started the negotiations. I started out saying $200 + shipping, OR 150 + Shipping + Krazy swag. So we agreed on $100 + shipping + Krazy Swag.
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</OI did a quick estimate over the UPS online and seen shipping was only “$40”. So I told Dan that I agreed with his counter of $100 + $40 shipping + swag. Dan indicated he would give me Krazy 6 & 7, Beanie & Calendar. Dan agreed that he’d be at the Puyallup, WA snow show this fall and he’d hand me the stuff. I figured this was legit and no big deal. So I’d get some cash now, and get the rest a few months later.
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</OSo, when I went to UPS to actually ship the pipe, it came to $118 shipping (long story). Instead of backing out, because I made a deal with Dan, I kept my word and shipped him the pipe. At the same time he pay-pal’d me the $140. So, I only made $22 selling that pipe to Dan. Ok cut my losses, and learned a valuable lesson about shipping to Canada.
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</OOk, fast forward to this September… I was energetic about the snow show (like we all are), but also energetic about going to Dan’s booth and picking up my gear. Well, come to find out, he bailed on the Puyallup Show and decided to go to the Edmonton Show…So, I figured ok, business decision. No big deal.<O
</OI PM’d Dan about what to do next. He “forgot” about our deal and was sorry that he wasn’t at the Puyallup show and wanted to throw me some stuff. I told him I’d rather take the cash value and call it a day.
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</OAfter discussing again, we agreed on $75, and he would pay-pal me….That was 2 weeks ago.
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</OSo, all in all, I learned a valuable lesson. First don’t mail anything to Canada unless you positively know the cost to ship. Second, don’t trust someone who, I feel, has an influence on the sledding industry. I take myself as a trusting person. I help my buddies, lend a hand, and put them higher on the priority list when it comes to helping out because I know what it’s like needing a hand. Considering this guy is in sled films, talks about being a good ambassador to the sport, and preaches avvy safety, who would have thought he would shaft a fellow sledder.
So, whats your opinion? Did I get screwed? or am I crazy for thinking I’d be able to recover anything else. At this point I’ve written the pipe off, and any monetary compensation. Just looking to see what everyones thought are. Charitable contributions are greatly appreciated – LOL j/k.
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</O(Not that i think anyone willl...but If anyone is calling me a liar i can print the FB message and show you the discussions)
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that you will get your money pretty quick. Just call him and remind him. I would think for a guy in the sled business this is really a hectic time and you just got forgotten.
