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RKT drop in pistons incorrectly marked ??

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I seen a Thread over on HCS that has some pictures of a set of RKT pistons that are marked wrong.
1 piston is marked correct.

The other piston is marked with the arrow pointing to the locating pin for the rings.
Good catch by the guy doing the install.

But how many others are doing this at home that may not have the knowledge to make sure the pistons are marked correctly

Kelsey are you aware of this?
 
That was my thread. I called Kelsey and told him about it. He had not heard about it prior to my call. Don't know if I was the only one with the issue.

Another issue came up as my brother is installing the same kit in his assault that one of the pistons from the factory had two decent sized nicks on the top/side of the piston.
 
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Sounds like the piston was mis-marked.

I read his instructions on the website and see that he does not call out the arrows...but references the ring-ends.

So, if you are following the instructions (below) that came with the kit... I don't believe that there will be any issues.



RK Tek 858 Polaris CFI Big Bore and Drop In Kit Installation


1. Clean ALL new and old parts thoroughly to assure no foreign debris is present. After cleaning with solvent/and or Soapy Water. Coat the cylinder walls with 2 stroke oil and then wipe out the oil with a clean rag. This oil will pull even more debris from the plating, repeat until clean rag remains clean..leave the excess oil on the cylinder walls.

2. Set piston ring end gap between .018” and .020”. If larger, leave it alone.
To set end gap:
a) Place 1 ring in cylinder. Level ring in cylinder by using the piston as a leveling device.
b) Measure gap with a feeler gauge.
c) Using a wet-stone or something similar, gently grind on one end of the ring until gap is obtained
d) Repeat process for each ring.
e) MAKE SURE you know which rings are gapped for which cylinders!

3. Install rings on piston. Writing on the ring is up

4. Install pistons, and top end bearing onto connecting rods. The ring ends ALWAYS are directed to the INTAKE Side of the cylinder.

5. Install wrist pin and cir-clips onto piston. MAKE SURE cir-clips are fully seated in groove!

6. Install, RKT (if supplied) base gasket. To assure a flat seal. MAKE SURE case and cylinder base is free of ANY grease or foreign debris. USING NO SEALER!! Install cylinders. Hand-tighten all bolts. Make sure the gasket has not been displaced during cylinder installation.

7. Install Exhaust Valve assemblies with gaskets onto each cylinder. Connect all hoses to Valve housing and make sure the hoses are secure. Make sure guillotines screw in STRAIGHT.
DO NOT INSTALL THE BLACK VALVE COVER CAPS UNTIL VALVE IS IN CYLINDER

8. Torque cylinder bolts to 33 ft/lbs and then final torque bolts to 42ft/lbs.

9. Install Head. Torque @ 22ft/lbs
a. PREMIX a 150:1 oil ratio in 1st tank of fuel. RKT recommends to always pre-mix at 150:1 in addition to your oil injection system. NEVER run ANY synthetic oil in this engine.
10. Start engine, check for base gasket leakage. Check for air pockets in the coolant system.

11. Run engine at varying throttle positions for the 1st 20 miles checking piston wash and plug color (and adjusting fuel accordingly), then ride it like as normal. NOTE: This engine is designed to run at a true 8300-8500 RPM. NOTE: These engines take about 100 miles for the rings to fully seat.

12. Clutching: RKT recommends TEAM Rooster Weights. Loading of the arms will be determinant on elevation. ALWAYS Load the HEEL to the MAX weight. Load Center and Tip to achieve proper shift. Keep in mind, this engine is running at a higher rpm than stock. RKT also MUCH prefers the Team Tied clutch with our custom Helix over the stock TSS04 clutch. The TSS04 clutch will also work, but, test has proven that it will not perform as well as the Tied clutch.

13. FUEL: Drop In Kit: No fuel changes required with OEM exhaust on 2011-12 engines. 2013/14 engine requires a fuel control box. For 2013/14 Add 6% fuel in the 6000-7500 RPM Band. Add fuel if needed in the 7500-8500 RPM band.. Usually 3-4%. 858 Kit→ see website for fueling.
 
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I seen a Thread over on HCS that has some pictures of a set of RKT pistons that are marked wrong.
1 piston is marked correct.

The other piston is marked with the arrow pointing to the locating pin for the rings.
Good catch by the guy doing the install.

But how many others are doing this at home that may not have the knowledge to make sure the pistons are marked correctly

Kelsey are you aware of this?

If you need the arrows to install a piston correctly then you probably shouldn't be doing the job.....just sayin
 
Is this for real? The only directions I got with my kit say " Install rings on piston. Dimple/ Arrow Is placed towards the exhaust port. Writing on ring is up" I'm pretty sure that the ring end locators were on the exhaust side towards the arrow. Now I need to tear it apart again just to make sure? Damn! I didn't know the ring ends needed to go towards the intake, I guess that means that I should not be doing this?
 
Is this for real? The only directions I got with my kit say " Install rings on piston. Dimple/ Arrow Is placed towards the exhaust port. Writing on ring is up" I'm pretty sure that the ring end locators were on the exhaust side towards the arrow. Now I need to tear it apart again just to make sure? Damn! I didn't know the ring ends needed to go towards the intake, I guess that means that I should not be doing this?


Yes take it apart and check you may be able to see the ring ends through the exhaust ports.
 
What I find interesting is that when INDY DAN, Brad, and others have a thread of their own, Kelsey is all over it in record time.

Now when there are specific questions directed about RKT's products (whether it's an installation question or a back ordered issue) he is mysteriously absent.

Oh, and I don't recall Brad or Indy Dan or others stirring the pot on these issues.

Would be interesting if the tables were turned around................

Just sayin'
 
His Moto is " if I don't read or listen to negative reports of my product then my product is reliable" this is nothing new buuuuuuuuut in his defense wossner makes the pistons not rkt so maybe he/we should be talking about them. Has anyone noticed this on pistons from bikeman?? They also purchase from wossner.
 
Lets keep this helpful and informative

Lets keep this on track.... and any other threads as well.

I like that the forums are good places to help each other...weather that is with a bent tunnel, handgrips or piston kits.

Thanks for your help people.

And thanks to BIGMEATS/05f150fx4 and for bringing this to our attention!
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Trenchmaster, Are you saying that your instructions differ from the ones that I copied from the RK site? If so, can you post up a good photo of that or a cut/paste?...Thanks in advance.

Did you also follow the directions related to ring gap??

You would be able to see this in the exhaust ports without removing other parts.





















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Thanks for the heads up on looking through the exhaust port to see the ring ends. The directions I got were not the same as the ones Mountain Horse posted, there was no reference to the ring ends only to install with the arrow facing the exhaust side.
 
His Moto is " if I don't read or listen to negative reports of my product then my product is reliable" this is nothing new buuuuuuuuut in his defense wossner makes the pistons not rkt so maybe he/we should be talking about them. Has anyone noticed this on pistons from bikeman?? They also purchase from wossner.

I should have my BMP kit hear tomorrow i will let you know what i find,
 
Hey :laser:Wood beat it unless you have something useful to say.
I am a ticket mechanic of 14 years. Close your yapper. I am just pointing this out for the people who don't have the experience.

Sorry bud...wasn't directed at you, just a general comment. By 'you' I meant anyone doing the job.
 
I removed the "Y" pipe and couldn't see the ends of the rings, so I'm good to go? It's been a couple weeks since I put this together, but I thought the ends of the rings were spaced wider apart than the exhaust port. I'm a pretty handy guy, I can follow instructions, and I have done this before on other sleds with good results. Not sure how to respond to Wood's comments here?
 
If you need the arrows to install a piston correctly then you probably shouldn't be doing the job.....just sayin

Unless you're working in the garage late after a long week at work and not watching as close as you probably should be. Yes most people that are building their own engine probably know this but that doesnt mean if you were just trying to get it whipped together you wouldn't miss it. Especially if you have directions right in front of you saying install with arrow forward.
 
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