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Revy avalanche

I guess that I should cancel this weekends ride that we have planned. We have riders coming from out of state to ride, we have hotel rooms booked, we have taken time off of work as well. The avy danger here is also moderate to considerable. I am officially canceling this organized event so that I am no longer responsible for what these guys may do when they show up.:crazy:

Get real, we will ride, we will just adjust the areas and type of terrain we travel in.
 
doo-skiboy said:
OK here we go :face-icon-small-sad
I lost 2 of my best friends and co-workers in this event. I knew both of the guys that passed away and was very much involved in both of there life's. They were both best friends and business partners.
Before I go much further I have talked to both of there wifes and given statement to all kinds of press. I want to let all my fellow friends and internet friends know that we (The 2 wife and myself) are not pointing any fingers and we all find it very hard to think of why people would try to press charges. I know and have read this thread a lost of times and would just like to stress that this is no ones fault at all and would like everyone to know how we felt.

:face-icon-small-sad

Shay was a very good and experienced sledder he really enjoyed sledding and loved to get away to the mountains, he worked very hard so he could play even harder. One thing he all way told me was "if he had to go he wanted to go from the top of the world". Shay was the one at the top of the hill so I feel he wish was answered.

This was a once a year trip for Kurtis and he really enjoyed coming to enjoy a sport that his partner was very passionate for. This was his second trip and he was really enjoying himself. He work very hard and love to play. with his family and friends

:face-icon-small-sad

Both men will be very much missed and remembered
I will keep everyone posted on when the Funerals will take place

I really appreciate all the positive comments and I have also past them on to the family's
THANKS SNOWEST

Mike Harker
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Hope you're doing all right Mike.....Shay was a great guy and a heart as big as ever. I'll miss him as well, I honestly considered him one of my friends, and I do not use that word lightly. Call me any time, we'll see ya soon bud!
 
skibreeze said:
I guess that I should cancel this weekends ride that we have planned. We have riders coming from out of state to ride, we have hotel rooms booked, we have taken time off of work as well. The avy danger here is also moderate to considerable. I am officially canceling this organized event so that I am no longer responsible for what these guys may do when they show up.:crazy:

Get real, we will ride, we will just adjust the areas and type of terrain we travel in.
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If it snows 3 to 4 feet you might consider. Or at the very minium stay off steep avy prone slopes.

OT
 
OT Bar & Grill said:
Why am i wrong ? Should we all pretend that this type of behavior is OK ? Maybe we should just keep trying to sugar coat this tragedy. Like all other similar tragedy of the past.

OT
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Your wrong because 'A' this is a UNORGANIZED EVENT NOW. Has been for couple years now. So really its not even an event. Lots of people like to ride on the second weekend of march.

And 'B' we arnt little kids, does someone follow you around telling you what you can and cannot do. and telling you what dangerous and whats not, and what risks to take and not to.

NOOOOO!!! Everyone makes the own desicions and every person on that mountain made the desicion to RIDE!

Noone here has sugar coated anything OT.
 
OT Bar & Grill said:
Sorry guy's it's the organizers responsibility to provide safety for all in attedance. No saftey measures were taken that day it's very obvious.

This is what happens when an organizer does not give a hoot to even minimize the risk on the slope after heavy snow fall.

PS: Do you guy's think Mike Wiegle's Heli Skli company didn't do avy control around the slope of revy prior to allowing there skiers to ski the powder that day ?

OT
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OT, I think MW guides do risk assesments on slopes they ski not actual avalanche control work such as ski cutting and blasting slopes such like we do in bounds.
 
knee deep in it said:
one thing that we have to remember, the avalanche did not occur at a Big Iron Shootout event. The Turbo hill climb was scheduled for Sunday. That is why there is no helicopter footage of the slide. Everyone at Turbo was there on their own.

There are lots of opinions on Ozone but it is a little unfair to expect him to bear the responsibility for everyone's safety on Bolder mountain, even after the show is done for the day. After the Bull Pen, 450 people went in different directions to play.
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I have been listening to radio & watching tv, hearing all reporters have to say. But absolutely no mention of the BIS ending in the Bullpen or that Turbo was scheduled for sunday and that Everyone at Turbo was there on their own. I don't disagree with this but no media has made any mention of it.

Also want to point out (an exerp from) another story on this by a reporter for The Canadian Press:
Never say die: Extreme snowmobilers undeterred by deadly B.C. avalanche
at 21:58 on March 15, 2010, EDT.
By Tamsyn Burgmann, THE CANADIAN PRESS

said Karl Klassen at the Canadian Avalanche Centre, based in Revelstoke.
Problem is, he said, the snowmobiling community sometimes meets education about the risks with resistance.
"Skiers have been on slopes for hundreds of years, so as a collective they're far more educated, whereas a culture of awareness doesn't yet exist for snowmobilers," he said.
"We have to get them to accept that we have something to teach them."

Link to article for those who want to read the whole thing: http://start.shaw.ca/start/enCA/News/NationalNewsArticle.htm?&src=n0315135A.xml

Hope I got that right, as a person who is less educated than a skier, I did my best.
 
-MKlim- said:
Your wrong because 'A' this is a UNORGANIZED EVENT NOW. Has been for couple years now. So really its not even an event. Lots of people like to ride on the second weekend of march.

And 'B' we arnt little kids, does someone follow you around telling you what you can and cannot do. and telling you what dangerous and whats not, and what risks to take and not to.

NOOOOO!!! Everyone makes the own desicions and every person on that mountain made the desicion to RIDE!

Noone here has sugar coated anything OT.
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A. BS, it is an event and even advertised as one.

B. Even little kids would have enough common sense to know the Avy Danger was very high that day.

All anyone has to do is look up the avy conditions around revy that day to know it was extreme. It's pretty clear the folk who attended & the organizers didn't give a hoot what the avy report said.

I will cut & paste the avy report for revy that day if i can figure out how
 
OT Bar & Grill said:
The only guy to blame are the organizers of the event and no one else.

Lets all pretend that this is OK. And everyone in the media or who was not there doesn't have a clue and there just bashing the sport.......Some of you fawking people need to wake up and smell the coffee and stop trying to sugar coat this tragedy while looking an excuse.

Ot
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WTF If your trying make yourself feel better by saying thease things you need to wake up and take a more positive approach.
 
OT if you are a true snowmobiler that me and everybody else thinks that u r not, did anybody ever hold a gun to anybodys head. NO i dont think so, and nobody but our selves put us in those positions. So maybe quit with your DUMB talk and think about the people that have lost their lives enjoying what they do.
 
OT Bar & Grill said:
Why am i wrong ? Should we all pretend that this type of behavior is OK ? Maybe we should just keep trying to sugar coat this tragedy. Like all other similar tragedy of the past.

OT
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u are an idiot, a tragic event took place and u are here blaming people. I am impressed with the boys work on the hill after the slide. This was a outlaw event, ride at your own risk(like it says at the bottom of the mountian). the only way these events dont happen is if everyone stays home. If it wasnt this weekend of the so called (big iron) there wont b half as much neg press. My prayers go out to those families that lost there loved ones, but no need blaming any one, they had to the chance to stay home, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
 
OT Bar & Grill said:
If it snows 3 to 4 feet you might consider. Or at the very minium stay off steep avy prone slopes.

OT
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The forecast is already calling for more snow, we know that the avy conditions are going to worsen. We have never canceled a ride due to conditions, but there were days that you couldn't have climbed a hill if you wanted to.

Your thought process is what is wrong with society today IMO. Somebody must be blamed, somebody must pay for what happened. I call B.S. I didn't blame the guy that pulled out the camera in front of a big drift. When I jumped that drift too fast and screwed up my knee, it was ultimately my responsibility.
 
OT Bar & Grill said:
The only guy to blame are the organizers of the event and no one else.

Lets all pretend that this is OK. And everyone in the media or who was not there doesn't have a clue and there just bashing the sport.......Some of you fawking people need to wake up and smell the coffee and stop trying to sugar coat this tragedy while looking an excuse.

Ot
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This is the problem with the world. People like you always want to blame someone else instead of taking responsibility for yourself. Everyone had the choice of going or staying home. Everyone knows that it happened, how it happened and that it can happen again. Leave it at that. Hopefully, if there is a bright side to this, that everyone will learn from this experience and it won't happen again.
 
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