Did I misread it, or did I see somewhere that this group of seasoned riders did not have beacons on??
Reported Avalanche: Superbowl
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Did I misread it, or did I see somewhere that this group of seasoned riders did not have beacons on??
Same story as last year on Christmas Day. David Balls was on the same hill without a Beacon. Oh yeah, he too was experienced.
We all need to Practice what we Preach
David Balls story:
http://www.avalanche.org/~uac/Accid...AccidentReport, Superbowl-Uintas,12-25-07.htm
We all need to Practice what we Preach
David Balls story:
http://www.avalanche.org/~uac/Accid...AccidentReport, Superbowl-Uintas,12-25-07.htm
My thoughts and prayers are with the family. My son is a young father of 3 boys now and has become one of the few people I ride with regularly. He and I have rode that very bowl in previous years. I can't imagine the pain this father is going thru now.
My son called me last evening after hearing of this tragedy and the BC accident, he is selling all his sleds and has no plans for now of replacing them. Said though he loves the sport, he just can't do it and risk putting his wife & kids thru any possible tragedy.
R.I.P. fallen riders.
My son called me last evening after hearing of this tragedy and the BC accident, he is selling all his sleds and has no plans for now of replacing them. Said though he loves the sport, he just can't do it and risk putting his wife & kids thru any possible tragedy.
R.I.P. fallen riders.
I have raced with the Ellingfords for many years, and they are a GREAT bunch of guys. My heart and prayers go out to the family. As for all the assumptions of how it might of happened......lets just hold on to those, nobody has the facts yet of what truly happened. There are avy's happening around here right on to the main trails as sleds just travel by, so lets just all be EXTRA careful out there, save the assumptions, and have the Ellingford family in our prayers at this time.
Wow, how long ago did he quit driving a car or truck??
No Good
I was ridin up there on saturday. Not in super bowl but one canyon to the north. Horrible conditions. The bowl at the head of the canyon we were in slid too. We were not close to it. We stayed off the hills. But if we had parked were we usually do it would have been ugly. It slid allot farther than i thought one would. Super Fast too. Proof you can stay off the hills and still get hurt. Thats a bad deal. The ellingfords are a good bunch, i wish you guys the best.
I was ridin up there on saturday. Not in super bowl but one canyon to the north. Horrible conditions. The bowl at the head of the canyon we were in slid too. We were not close to it. We stayed off the hills. But if we had parked were we usually do it would have been ugly. It slid allot farther than i thought one would. Super Fast too. Proof you can stay off the hills and still get hurt. Thats a bad deal. The ellingfords are a good bunch, i wish you guys the best.
All this sad news this year reminds me of four years ago. The snow was very unstable and unpredictable... So sad to here of this boy tragedey. God BLESS this FAMILY..
For those who have never been there:
I used to call this my playground. Not so fun anymore.
Super Bowl:
I used to call this my playground. Not so fun anymore.
Super Bowl:
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JohnnyQuestUtah
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Humpy Peak
A couple of years ago me and the boys rode up to "humpy peak'.
We drove in from coalville and parked near a gaswell, rode the sleds up to a radio tower up on top.
is that the 'superbowl" area ??
thanks,
johnny,
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A couple of years ago me and the boys rode up to "humpy peak'.
We drove in from coalville and parked near a gaswell, rode the sleds up to a radio tower up on top.
is that the 'superbowl" area ??
thanks,
johnny,
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Kevco
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Yea it is Ron, just wait! I love Moffit basin, I hate getting hassled. Its like CC said very point blank. There are risks crossing the street. There are risks driving a car. Dubs point in all of these avy deaths is this, STAY OUT OF THE AREA!! Watch your run out etc. Problem is its not the folks on here who need to hear this. No one is trying to make anyone look bad but the sad reality of all ALL these deaths is people made mistakes...Without saying anything more may die?
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I've been pretty impressed lately by the number of snowmobilers that are getting wise to avalanche safety. The sledders I've run into and talked with this year so far have been clued in that conditions are dangerous and are acting accordingly. Good work, keep it up.
Avalanche safety gear (beacons, probes, shovels) doesn't by any means keep you 100% safe but you need to have it and be practiced with it. There was a great live recovery of a skier buried 4 feet deep in Big Cottonwood Canyon over the weekend. The rescuers acted quick and were well practiced. The gear does help your chances.
What will up your chances even more is to learn about when it's safe to get onto the steep slopes. With the very weak snow we have near the ground this year it may be sometime before we feel ok about getting onto the big stuff. Have patience. I know how hard it can be to turn down a big slope full of fresh snow but we have to do it right now.
Brett Kobernik
Avalanche Forecaster
Utah Avalanche Center
Avalanche safety gear (beacons, probes, shovels) doesn't by any means keep you 100% safe but you need to have it and be practiced with it. There was a great live recovery of a skier buried 4 feet deep in Big Cottonwood Canyon over the weekend. The rescuers acted quick and were well practiced. The gear does help your chances.
What will up your chances even more is to learn about when it's safe to get onto the steep slopes. With the very weak snow we have near the ground this year it may be sometime before we feel ok about getting onto the big stuff. Have patience. I know how hard it can be to turn down a big slope full of fresh snow but we have to do it right now.
Brett Kobernik
Avalanche Forecaster
Utah Avalanche Center
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girlpowder
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He hasn't nor do I see the relevance.
Driving vehicles is a necessary risk in order to function in society in the manner he wants to live.
Riding a sled into the backcountry is a choice most of us make for entertainment purposes. When we make the decision to do so, we should do it with the knowledge to allow us to make sound decisions.
Yes those words are bolded purposely, seem to be some good keywords toward keeping us all safe riding.
I see Corey's point. You take a risk everyday and accidents do happen. It's all dangerous. I have 350 miles of Mashing Meadows and Tree's, thinking I'm being safe by staying away from the hills. I might nail a tree head on and die tomorrow. Saw a 5 car pile up today and I'm pretty sure somebody must have died.
Moral is to drive and ride as safe as you can. Chit happens but don't stop living because your scared.
Moral is to drive and ride as safe as you can. Chit happens but don't stop living because your scared.
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1MEX
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Super bowl was my first experience with the avy danger. We were called to help find a ridder that had been barried. My friends and I were having lunch the hill before and that group just left the hill as we approached it. Then i didn't know what a beacon was. Boy did i learn quick after that event. A few years ago we lost a friend (kyle) up monti in an avy over wyskey hill. Our friends found him within 5 minutes but the trees we think killed him. It does scare me to think it may happen to me but SH is right, can't live scared all the time and stop living life. Just got to learn from it. Ride safe. We try.
I agree, it is a choice. I just think the logic is a little illogical. If I changed my lifestyle everytime everything something bad happened, I would have quit stuff a long time ago. Like when my 1st grade teacher was caught in a boat prop and killed, I would have given up boats. I just think he should educate himself and his family and enjoy the sport they all love safely.
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JohnnyQuestUtah
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You're close. There are two bowls seperating Humpy and Moffit.
Thanks for the Map\picture girlpowder, i've rode near there twice but never made it over to the superbowl area.
peace out,
johnny
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OK , idk IF I'm beating a dead horse here but , I was stopped by a cop in super bowl on sat . we got talking and he told me the whole KSL report was wrong and that this kid died on avalanche hill ... I believe it is the next hill jus east of the double hill ... I took my friend over there to show him the hill , we kept a safe distance , the first time we saw it it was untouched ... then a bit later I see two guys high marking on it I was pointing and looking at them and to my disbelief after high markin avy hill a bunch of time the stopped on the hill half way up pointed down jus chillin ....I'm guessing they had no idea what hill they were on . so I rode down and waved them off the hill ....jus thought I'd share the info .
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1MEX
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avalanche, yamaha, chicken, I have heard on different names. I was woundering if they are all the same hill.
you can see yamaha hill in the back right of sledhead ut 's pic right by the circle i believe .??? avalanche hill is back east on the outside of the super bowl next to the "double hill" which would be below the thumb tack of double hill on gp's google image at the very bottom right corner of the google image ...yamaha hill would be to the left of the "moffit basin " text on the google earth image
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