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Pro turbo reliability

I would highly doubt that any of us on this forum have any idea how many kits each manufacturer has out there. maybe spend more time on getting ur turbo running properly rather than being on these forums bashing the turbo companies. if u dont want to tune and spend time getting a turbo running properly keep it stock.:face-icon-small-fro
 
Silber sold over a hundred kits for the pro, Most of the issues I have read are the owners error. Fueling / Boost / Elevation issues mostly, I think I have read one motor has gone down?? But if you read the forums this owner who's motor went down was pushing the envelope with fuel and boost. If you read the old threads and recomendations he was following I feel its not Silbers fault. JMO Another thing is all of these mods we do to sleds takes them out of the specs they where engineered for. If you want a pull and go with a Turbo get a Yamaha or a Cat. I am no engine guru, but I did read my own directions and followed Justins instructions and I have no problems with my sled, I have ridden over 300 miles this season with my Turbo. 0 issues.
 
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It will come down to Customer service for me, not who's sold more

I happen to have gone with the BD turbo, simply because of all the R&D they reportedly did and I have a local dealer that installed it and HOPEFULLY, help me with any initial tuning/tweeking issues. To this point, the sled has ran fine. My Rev limiter/DET issues have gotten worse over the past two rides. Don't know if it's the TPS or clutching. Again, the best kit will come down to how my dealer responds to this recent issue and how long it takes/how much to get it remedied.

Dan
 
Ive owned silber and boondocker kits and i love both of them. The bd kits have a few more bells and whistles which is cool. Reliability comes down to preventative maintenance. Changing the reeds and pistons every so often along with a good install will ensure a great running turbo sled. Hope this helps!
 
Turbo sleds are NOT pull the rope and go. You will always have cheerleaders for the different brands on here that will tell you they are. It's a myth. Any time you put a turbo on an already high performance machine you are taking a risk. If you don't mind wrenching a little here and there or sometimes a lot a turbo sled will be for you. Things will go wrong, sometimes it will be something that is expected other times it will be something you didn't even think was possible. Murphy's kicks into full affect on the mountain on turbo sleds. A lot of these guys that are telling you their turbo runs awsome, no problems, are telling you this from 2 months actual seat time experience with a 2 stroke turbo in a winter where the snowpack has been exceptionally low. Yeah, the theory seems sound and it seems like nothing could possibly go wrong, but it will. Even, if the so called install was done correctly.
I have a friend who had Silber personally install his kit: he has had 3-4 bolts back out on him now. If anyone was going to be said to do a proper install I think I'd be Silber. This individual had the oil drain flange bolts loosen up and drain his oil resevior down to a 1/4. Its a good thing the end of the day came as soon as it did because he woulda ran his turbo out of oil otherwise. He noticed it when he got back for the day, an hour longer and it coulda been toast. Also his top airbox bolt that bolts to the steering shaft is also MIA. That said this individual is still very happy with his kit.
Point being, if you are ok with a little hassle(sometimes a lot, ie read the different threads) that comes with owning a turbo you will love it. Expect the worst, hope for the best.
 
Well said, and your right with the low snow I dont know anyone who has been able to do a long WOT pull. I am sure there will be more issues with all kinds of reasons on what happened. We will always have tinkering with any sled modded or not.
 
Sometimes you are pulling them with a rope, and sometimes they go.

My cat turbo seems to be pull the rope and go as long as I throw top ends at it and replate a cylinder every 200 miles....:bolt:

Then again, I really have no idea when it comes to tuning..... but they sure are fun when they work.

I have twice now inspected what seemed to be a healthy running engine only to find scored pistons and cylinders. I wonder how many people are running around with slightly damaged motors that still run but have no idea thinking the sled is "pull the rope and go".
 
If you want pull and go, get a 2011 M8 and put a BD pump kit on it. In 1200 miles i changed the turbo oil 2 times, diamond drive oil 4 times, rollers on clutches 2 times, and spark plugs 2 times. Thats all regular sled maintenance that should be done on a stock sled as well.

I never had to touch the fuel box, mess with any bolts backing out, or anything people mention. That my friends a true pull and go sled. Thats what BD and Silber both aim for when selling PG kits for the Pro RMK.

I also owned a 2011 Pro RMK with a BD PG kit. It also had 1200 miles on it. It was a little more finicky and liked to foul plugs about every 200 miles. Required a little bit of playing on fuel box, but nothing the average joe couldnt do.

I like what you guys have said about getting a good installer. That will solve 98% of issues. Getting good fuel EVERY TIME YOU RIDE will solve another 1% of issues. Preventative maintenance (checking clutches, oil, connections, fittings, wires, plugs, etc) will probably fix the last 1%. Owning a turbo requires more attention to details, but not necessarily more know how or wrench time.

I doubt I will ever go back to stock, boost is too much fun! (waiting on my 2012 BD kit and still waiting on snow...)
 
I love when people can admit they do something just for me, I appreciate it.

I grew up back in ME/NH thats why I know. CO does have regs, and it seems that I should be fine here as they are much more relaxed regulations than the ones in ME. I have numerous friends that are wardens in ME and they seem to take the noise issue rather serious!

I was just curious if you owned one, or have a friend that owns one. To me to speak poorly on something that you don't have any experience with isn't the best thing to do. Thats why I asked. If you have one great, what were the issues with it?

Also, I should add I was in your boat as well. New to the turbo world and nervous to do it. I went for it anyway. I am ok with some tuning but I ultimately want to ride the thing. So far I've had mine out 3 times. It hasn't been perfect but holy cow is the fun factor there! I can't even believe that I've waited this long to do it!

No issues, flat out rips...

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Gotta love it all

I personally enjoy the pre-season fabricating, installing and tinkering almost as much as I do actually riding the sleds I build. It is a hobby that is addicting and compulsive to build and own well running mod sleds, as it does not take long to wrap up $20k, turboed or not. For the 5-10 or 15 days the average person rides it is borderline insane. I know as I own two full mods, one turboed and one on NOS as well as a new pro that is also turboed, but like I said, I enjoy working on them...

I have had many great trouble free turboed days on the snow in the last four years. However, I have had days shortened by failures as well; broken clutch springs, snapped chains, blown tracks, bent tunnels, smashed a-arms, failed electrical components and so on. Mostly minor things that can and do happen to stock sleds every day, but... some of the faiures I have had have been directly related to the added power of the turbo and the fact that everything around you happens so much faster on a boosted sled. (I have never lost a motor or turbo but have scored a set of pistons that I did not realize until a routine end of season ex. valve cleaning.)

With years of making power at elevation with naturally asperated mod engines it gives a person a good handle on all the little things that it takes to make a sled run well and how the entire sled works as a whole. Small simple things can cause major running issues and only experience lets you pick up on them quickly to avoid a spoiled day or worse yet, an entire trip.

The way I look at it is this. It has become too easy for any idiot (with a pocket full of money) to bolt on an extra 50-100 hp with the birth of the bolt on off the shelf turbo kits. Many of the people with turbo problems have never owned anything more than a bone stock sled with a "can" on it but now they have a turbo sled. How long do you think a naturally aspirated full mod motor cranking out 175 hp at elevation would last any of the turbo newbies. NOT LONG

I know it has been said before and I agree... alot of problems stem form poor fuel, poor install, and poor tuning ability. Exactly all of the things you learn from running and tuning mod engines. Now a days, take a stock sled and the average dumb dumb who bolts on a turbo and they too are making big power in a matter of hours without any clue how to deal with it. In my opinion, if you have not spent many hours tinkering on sleds in the past and enjoying every minute of it, DO NOT GET A TURBO.

If you do decide to purchase a turbo, listen to the others here who have been around the block and get it installed by a professional, run good fuel and plenty of it, and just take a few moments each day to take a good look at everything on the or better yet, a couple times a day as many problems start small.

I have run turbos for years and own kits from different makers that have been modified to work better and will personally never go stock again but, I enjoy everything they entail including the maintenance and issues that go along with them. Most enjoyable of all is the unmatched power they produce all day long every time the flipper is squeezed.
 
I personally enjoy the pre-season fabricating, installing and tinkering almost as much as I do actually riding the sleds I build. It is a hobby that is addicting and compulsive to build and own well running mod sleds, as it does not take long to wrap up $20k, turboed or not. For the 5-10 or 15 days the average person rides it is borderline insane. I know as I own two full mods, one turboed and one on NOS as well as a new pro that is also turboed, but like I said, I enjoy working on them...

I have had many great trouble free turboed days on the snow in the last four years. However, I have had days shortened by failures as well; broken clutch springs, snapped chains, blown tracks, bent tunnels, smashed a-arms, failed electrical components and so on. Mostly minor things that can and do happen to stock sleds every day, but... some of the faiures I have had have been directly related to the added power of the turbo and the fact that everything around you happens so much faster on a boosted sled. (I have never lost a motor or turbo but have scored a set of pistons that I did not realize until a routine end of season ex. valve cleaning.)

With years of making power at elevation with naturally asperated mod engines it gives a person a good handle on all the little things that it takes to make a sled run well and how the entire sled works as a whole. Small simple things can cause major running issues and only experience lets you pick up on them quickly to avoid a spoiled day or worse yet, an entire trip.

The way I look at it is this. It has become too easy for any idiot (with a pocket full of money) to bolt on an extra 50-100 hp with the birth of the bolt on off the shelf turbo kits. Many of the people with turbo problems have never owned anything more than a bone stock sled with a "can" on it but now they have a turbo sled. How long do you think a naturally aspirated full mod motor cranking out 175 hp at elevation would last any of the turbo newbies. NOT LONG

I know it has been said before and I agree... alot of problems stem form poor fuel, poor install, and poor tuning ability. Exactly all of the things you learn from running and tuning mod engines. Now a days, take a stock sled and the average dumb dumb who bolts on a turbo and they too are making big power in a matter of hours without any clue how to deal with it. In my opinion, if you have not spent many hours tinkering on sleds in the past and enjoying every minute of it, DO NOT GET A TURBO.

If you do decide to purchase a turbo, listen to the others here who have been around the block and get it installed by a professional, run good fuel and plenty of it, and just take a few moments each day to take a good look at everything on the or better yet, a couple times a day as many problems start small.

I have run turbos for years and own kits from different makers that have been modified to work better and will personally never go stock again but, I enjoy everything they entail including the maintenance and issues that go along with them. Most enjoyable of all is the unmatched power they produce all day long every time the flipper is squeezed.

Good points. But 5-15 rides? Forget about a turbo, I would just rent.
 
The real issue is that sleds are always going to need alot of attention when ridden hard. Bent, broken, and worn out parts are part of the game. Turbos are going to make it harder on those components as well as add to the parts that can fail and make troubleshooting alot more difficult. I have spent several hours trying to figure out why mine is cutting out at mid throttle and looks like it was a TPS issue, nothing to do with the turbo, but took longer to diagnose because of it.
 
Looking for real life experience on how reliable these Turbo kits are and what kind of life I can get out of my engine. I am seriously considering going this route but I am terrified of not being able to ride my sled. I take numerous short trips to the mountains riding 2-3 days at a time and don't have time to spend a day making adjustments to make it run or have a serious engine failure. I want something that I can get on and ride. Is this in my imagination or is it possible? Thanks in advance.

If you are close to Mandan, look me up and I will let you ride mine for a quick blast and you make your own decision. There is a kit out that is reliable ,way more reliable to be exact.
Jake
202-6304
 
If you are close to Mandan, look me up and I will let you ride mine for a quick blast and you make your own decision. There is a kit out that is reliable ,way more reliable to be exact.
Jake
202-6304

Where?? I am waiting for one.:face-icon-small-hap

Sam
 
The problems isnt with the turbo kit itself, its been lack of installing skills/patience and bad tuning experince on my part. And of course you will see more threads about Silber, HE IS THE LEADING TURBO KIT SELLER FOR PRO'S! More kits beeing sold, more people talking about them.

LOL....where do you guys get your information? BD sells more RMK kits in a week then Silber will sell in the next 3 years combined.
 
LOL....where do you guys get your information? BD sells more RMK kits in a week then Silber will sell in the next 3 years combined.

While I will not argue that Rocky\BD sells more kits than Justin, I bet he would LOVE to sell the number of kits in a week that Justin will sell in the next 3 years. BD had better sell a bunch more, there overhead is a tad higher.:face-icon-small-ton

Justin has still done very well with his kits and should be commended on his industriousness. Free enterprise works for all of us. Keeps things competitive.:face-icon-small-win

BTW, I am sure you were exaggerating regarding 3 years worth of units in a week, if not, well:laugh:

Sam
 
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