pro rmk vs summit xp
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snengineer
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They are both XP's one just happens to have a Polaris back end...which is a good thing
decisions decisions.....An XP body with better stock clutching or and XP with an awesome motor that will save you a few hundred bucks in oil each season...seems like six's to me.
decisions decisions.....An XP body with better stock clutching or and XP with an awesome motor that will save you a few hundred bucks in oil each season...seems like six's to me.
hmmm
Get one of each!
Get one of each!
Where you reading this?? I only see 2.25" track.
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lucky13
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sounds like someone has been spanked on a regular basis by revs and xp's
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lucky13
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you really need to look at both chassis not the whole sled. theres no doubt that polaris has been buying revs and xp's for there [years of reasearch] to develop the pro rmk, yes im a doo owner and this is the latest take off of doo's rider forward, first was cat with twin spar then yamaha with the nytro, now polaris with the pro, and i hope they took it up a notch and made there effort better then doo because i want one bad
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Good on Polaris for going all-metric.
I hope they are rock-solid reliable.
I'll play it safe and wait one year before I commit though. Been burned by first year Polaris models before and wont go there again.
I hope they are rock-solid reliable.
I'll play it safe and wait one year before I commit though. Been burned by first year Polaris models before and wont go there again.
If I was snochecking one this year, I'd get the Polaris. I love my XP, but I've had it for 3 years now. I love trying new things, and the Poo is the only company with something totally new. I'd really like to ride one, and see if it feels any thing like the XP. If it's anything close to as rider forward as the XP, I might being switching brands again in the next year.
I've been on the Rev chassis the last few years and havn't upgraded because I don't think the XP's are a strong enough chassis. All my buddies that have XP's and ride hard are consistantly breaking cast Al peices of the chassis and thats bogus in my opinion. If i'm going to spend the money on a new sled then its gotta hold up to the rigers i'm going to put it thru and I don't think the XP's are capable of that. I will be curious to see how the new Freeride xp does but the fact that its 30lbs heavier than the other XP's is rediculous too.
If I was going to snowcheck a new sled for next year It would have to be the Polaris pro ride strictly because of the chassis' strength and the weight loss. I'll be interested to see how they hold up. I think as long as Polaris has the electrical issues (ecu and voltage regulator) fixed they might have a real winner.
Oh and to whoever says line all three sleds up and point it up hill and see who wins, thats just stupid. If your buying a sled because it goes in a straight line uphill the fastest then your buying a sled for all the wrong reasons. When I ride I don't just pin it and point it up hill. Thats not riding at all.
If I was going to snowcheck a new sled for next year It would have to be the Polaris pro ride strictly because of the chassis' strength and the weight loss. I'll be interested to see how they hold up. I think as long as Polaris has the electrical issues (ecu and voltage regulator) fixed they might have a real winner.
Oh and to whoever says line all three sleds up and point it up hill and see who wins, thats just stupid. If your buying a sled because it goes in a straight line uphill the fastest then your buying a sled for all the wrong reasons. When I ride I don't just pin it and point it up hill. Thats not riding at all.
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wje_153
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M8 baby whoo
the M8 is still going to be the best sled on snow because heres why xps dont layover worth a dam compared to the M and over all the chassis is weak i see people always crippiling theyre xps and revs. the rmk theres no way in hel that the rmk pro is 40lbs lighter than the iq platform just another false dry weight just like the xp and i wouldnt trust a first year polaris considering electrical and engine problems that theyve had in the past.
the M8 is still going to be the best sled on snow because heres why xps dont layover worth a dam compared to the M and over all the chassis is weak i see people always crippiling theyre xps and revs. the rmk theres no way in hel that the rmk pro is 40lbs lighter than the iq platform just another false dry weight just like the xp and i wouldnt trust a first year polaris considering electrical and engine problems that theyve had in the past.
One more time just for the record.
The Pro RMK is not a rider forward design like the XP. Rider position in relation to motor and drive shaft are closer to the M8 and Apex than the XP. The factory video verifies Polaris already knew they had the correct rider position with the IQ and Dragon when they started the Pro chassis. The challenge was to make it light and strong without going to a rider forward design.
After riding the sled it handles more like an M8 than any other sled I’ve rode. I think because the plastic resembles the XP guys are thinking it’s designed like the XP. Not so.
The Pro RMK is not a rider forward design like the XP. Rider position in relation to motor and drive shaft are closer to the M8 and Apex than the XP. The factory video verifies Polaris already knew they had the correct rider position with the IQ and Dragon when they started the Pro chassis. The challenge was to make it light and strong without going to a rider forward design.
After riding the sled it handles more like an M8 than any other sled I’ve rode. I think because the plastic resembles the XP guys are thinking it’s designed like the XP. Not so.
Thats a funny statement since I rode a (actually three different ones) 2011 PRO RMK Friday that weighed 434 the day before in the shop with coolant and oil. That is pretty darn close to exactly how much the "brochure" says. This one even had a crank in the motor unlike a couple other prototypes that we've seen drug out in front of the masses for early looks.
Now I'm fortunate enough to get an opportunity to ride alot of different very nice sleds from stock to outrageous custom mods. This one is absolutely excellent.
Now I'm fortunate enough to get an opportunity to ride alot of different very nice sleds from stock to outrageous custom mods. This one is absolutely excellent.
Who has had one on a hill? I would be interested in hearing from the guys that ride Polaris and if it gives them that "uncomfortable" feeling coming down a steep hill like a REV or XP would the first time riding one down the steep.....that "going over the bars" feeling that takes some getting used to.....very unlike the Dragon/IQ.
I don't consider the XP rider forward as much as "centralized mass"....engine back and rider forward for a more neutral and balanced feel when setup properly. This Polaris looks to be similar although it's speculation on my part without riding one.
Just wish I could afford 2 sleds next year
I don't consider the XP rider forward as much as "centralized mass"....engine back and rider forward for a more neutral and balanced feel when setup properly. This Polaris looks to be similar although it's speculation on my part without riding one.
Just wish I could afford 2 sleds next year
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snowmobiler
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snowmobiler
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It handles or feels nothing like the XP or the NYTRO LDT Edition.
Paul I didn't notice anything uncomfortable or scary other then the track is a bit washy or slick feeling on decent anytime you applied the brakes. Feels similar to the PC on a new M sled when you start your ascent. I'm used to a much more reactive track. For simply dropping down and free spooling it was totally comfortable. Even popping downhill didn't send you or pivot you forward radically. You could also be dropping down and easily turn on it's side and either side hill out or completely reverse direction at a much higher rate of speed then is comfortable on the stock iq raw. To pull that manuever comfortably on the stocker I had to be creeping (sometimes gravity makes it so you can't creep) but I could really be more aggressive with the 2011 and that was pretty cool. Much more so if I had more seat time to really get comfy with it. Lots of backcountry riders are going to experience this handling advantage when the sleds get out there to the general pubic. Another interesting performance characteristic that this sled didn't do was the rear end wash out that is a common demon on the IQ RAW RMK. I always kind of speculated it was track related because of the straight lug patterns but that appears to be proven inaccurate because I couldn't make the 2011 act that way and it has the same track. We discussed this in the trailer with the demo group and the speculation is that the narrower side and body panel design keeps the full side of the sled in contact and doesn't pivot off of the wider panels like the iq raw. Makes good theory to me. Nice to pull that manuever and not have the nose rotate too far and end up facing you uphill and stuck when you really want to just do a high speed emergency sidehill....or the super cool full 360 downhill spin that I can't seem to get on my sled.
Paul I didn't notice anything uncomfortable or scary other then the track is a bit washy or slick feeling on decent anytime you applied the brakes. Feels similar to the PC on a new M sled when you start your ascent. I'm used to a much more reactive track. For simply dropping down and free spooling it was totally comfortable. Even popping downhill didn't send you or pivot you forward radically. You could also be dropping down and easily turn on it's side and either side hill out or completely reverse direction at a much higher rate of speed then is comfortable on the stock iq raw. To pull that manuever comfortably on the stocker I had to be creeping (sometimes gravity makes it so you can't creep) but I could really be more aggressive with the 2011 and that was pretty cool. Much more so if I had more seat time to really get comfy with it. Lots of backcountry riders are going to experience this handling advantage when the sleds get out there to the general pubic. Another interesting performance characteristic that this sled didn't do was the rear end wash out that is a common demon on the IQ RAW RMK. I always kind of speculated it was track related because of the straight lug patterns but that appears to be proven inaccurate because I couldn't make the 2011 act that way and it has the same track. We discussed this in the trailer with the demo group and the speculation is that the narrower side and body panel design keeps the full side of the sled in contact and doesn't pivot off of the wider panels like the iq raw. Makes good theory to me. Nice to pull that manuever and not have the nose rotate too far and end up facing you uphill and stuck when you really want to just do a high speed emergency sidehill....or the super cool full 360 downhill spin that I can't seem to get on my sled.
Adding crankshaft centerline would be nice too
.....and maybe throw a REV and a Dragoon chassis in the mix ??
