Polaris limited build is a joke!

[Jaynelson]

Boost model allocation seems like it was about 20-25% of total mountain sled allocation (based off the numbers we saw, nothing in this thread). In my head, that's not totally unreasonable, either as a prediction, or as a capacity for a new halo model.

BUT, once you ad in 3 other factors:
1) Covid crazy retail - where everyone buys everything faster than it can be built
2) All of the supply chain issues/manufacturing challenges in the Covid era.
3) The new chassis changes + turbo + the spec on it being very impressive ...

....then they obviously could have sold many more. BUT with the current situation, just because you can sell more, doesn't mean you can build more. Lumber, appliances, trucks, ATV's, UTV's, chainsaw, microchips, certain raw materials, and on and on and on are all in the same boat. I wouldn't take much personal offense....just going to be the story of 2020, 2021. I am *VERY* surprised there are people who haven't run into this yet.....like, floored

 

[Teej83]

My complaint stems solely from watching the video, getting pumped, playing with colors, and missing the boat. I was going to snowcheck early, but I think its unreasonable to expect the most expensive sled with frankly, limited application outside of mountain states and high elevation, to be sold out in less than 24 hours. If they would have effing mentioned "limited production" during the video, I would have snowchecked that day. Instead Im SOL and pissed. They are lucky the other mountain sleds don't handle similarly IMO, would love to give someone else my cash.

Guess its gonna be another year on my 16 Axys. I'll just cut the tunnel and get 95% of the way there, sans boost.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

My complaint stems solely from watching the video, getting pumped, playing with colors, and missing the boat. I was going to snowcheck early, but I think its unreasonable to expect the most expensive sled with frankly, limited application outside of mountain states and high elevation, to be sold out in less than 24 hours. If they would have effing mentioned "limited production" during the video, I would have snowchecked that day. Instead Im SOL and pissed. They are lucky the other mountain sleds don't handle similarly IMO, would love to give someone else my cash.

Guess its gonna be another year on my 16 Axys. I'll just cut the tunnel and get 95% of the way there, sans boost.

For what it’s worth I really enjoy my cut tunnel boosted 2016 I just am ready for something new and jumped on it right away.

I’m guessing you won’t be 95% there more like 80% after the tunnel cut. (Vs 2022 n/a matryx slash)

 

[FirstAscent]

My complaint stems solely from watching the video, getting pumped, playing with colors, and missing the boat. I was going to snowcheck early, but I think its unreasonable to expect the most expensive sled with frankly, limited application outside of mountain states and high elevation, to be sold out in less than 24 hours. If they would have effing mentioned "limited production" during the video, I would have snowchecked that day. Instead Im SOL and pissed. They are lucky the other mountain sleds don't handle similarly IMO, would love to give someone else my cash.

Guess its gonna be another year on my 16 Axys. I'll just cut the tunnel and get 95% of the way there, sans boost.

I would even go as far to say sold out in less than 2 hours! since really the clock started ticking once dealers opened the next day.

You can go build a boost model on the site now, but of course when you call your dealer they are going to say "Sorry, too late".

I got my order in but by luck, and I still think it's frustrating since most, including me, didn't have a clue as to knowing you had to be calling your dealer within minutes of them opening.

And even the non-boost models, it's a lot of money to be throwing down to "settle" if you really wanted a boost model but could only order the "standard" models.

As mentioned by many, I'm sure covid is affecting this to some degree, but I also wonder how the scenario would be different if covid didn't exist. Would there still be a limit, or would they let everyone and their kids and dogs order a boost model? My dog definitely wants her own

 

[simple]

I know I'm on Snowest when someone makes the correlation that it is the government's fault that they couldn't get a Polaris snowcheck. Lol

Yeah it is an overreaction to a pandemic (just a little flu) in their mind. Realistically it is an oversimplification of how products get manufactured and distributed. Somehow that box of parts turns into a snowmobile and arrives at a dealer. It must be magic! I hate bureaucracy as much as anyone but I hate male Karens even more than that. Quit bitching when you are in the same feed line as the rest of us.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

I know I'm on Snowest when someone makes the correlation that it is the government's fault that they couldn't get a Polaris snowcheck. Lol

Yeah it is an overreaction to a pandemic (just a little flu) in their mind. Realistically it is an oversimplification of how products get manufactured and distributed. Somehow that box of parts turns into a snowmobile and arrives at a dealer. It must be magic! I hate bureaucracy as much as anyone but I hate male Karens even more than that. Quit bitching when you are in the same feed line as the rest of us.

No complaints here. ??

 

[Teej83]

For what it’s worth I really enjoy my cut tunnel boosted 2016 I just am ready for something new and jumped on it right away.

I’m guessing you won’t be 95% there more like 80% after the tunnel cut. (Vs 2022 n/a matryx slash)

i have a 36” alt impact front end, upgraded shocks, and a pipe/head. Where is the extra 20 percent coming from if the tunnels are similar? 20 percent is a lot man

 

[goridedoo]

i have a 36” alt impact front end, upgraded shocks, and a pipe/head. Where is the extra 20 percent coming from if the tunnels are similar? 20 percent is a lot man

Watch the video that Eric Woog posted thats in like 8 places here and all over facebook. There are lots of changes. SnoWest has also posted some good videos that show additional changes.

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

i have a 36” alt impact front end, upgraded shocks, and a pipe/head. Where is the extra 20 percent coming from if the tunnels are similar? 20 percent is a lot man

Having 36” and shocks helps a lot.
Maybe you will be 85% ?

Otherwise.......
QD2, series 8 track, Centralized mass, tapered tunnel (my 8” cut tunnel still makes some washout in variable snow) new engine management system increased response, 20# less ice buildup, 850 torque. (I’ve compared a pipe/head 800 to a 2020 850 quite a bit and the 850 steps all over its toes in steep deep trackspeed)

 

[Jaynelson]

My complaint stems solely from watching the video, getting pumped, playing with colors, and missing the boat. I was going to snowcheck early, but I think its unreasonable to expect the most expensive sled with frankly, limited application outside of mountain states and high elevation, to be sold out in less than 24 hours. If they would have effing mentioned "limited production" during the video, I would have snowchecked that day. Instead Im SOL and pissed. They are lucky the other mountain sleds don't handle similarly IMO, would love to give someone else my cash.

Guess its gonna be another year on my 16 Axys. I'll just cut the tunnel and get 95% of the way there, sans boost.

I don't think anyone from Polaris to the dealers to consumers expected it to sell out THAT quickly. Retail behavior in the covid era is difficult to predict - reconciling consumer behavior/demand with availability has been largely impossible. If they would have put out this or that on the video....I suppose different people might have grabbed them, but the total number remains the same. I'm not sticking up for Polaris as much as explaining "welcome to 2020/2021" for those who apparently haven't had exposure to the current retail climate. Can't even buy paper towel half the time at the grocery store...

For whatever it's worth, Polaris is actually doing pretty damn good on producing/delivering compared to others in the industry (Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, etc.)

 

[sportfire]

I don't know, the first year is never sorted, the 23's will be better. See how easy they made it for those guys.

 

[live2beel]

Not mentioning that this was a "limited build" was where Polaris blew it. A lot of "Loyal" Polaris people missed out. Will they jump ship and try something else and like it? Time will tell.

 

[sledhead_79]

Yeah your right..... there must be a turbo shortage. Obviously thats the reason for the limited build.......lol

You obviously don’t know how the procurement process works.

I was employed by North America’s largest midstream company and the worlds largest crude oil transportation/storage company as a CM. I never had a project start on time for construction due to materials/equipment made in the US arriving on time for the year 2020. The equipment being manufactured outside the US was even more of a headache.

I don’t blame Polaris one bit for only making a limited amount of boosted sleds for 2022. Ya’ll are bitching and complaining about first world problems. Be lucky you even have the right to ride a snowmobile.

 

[meathooker]

I don't know, the first year is never sorted, the 23's will be better. See how easy they made it for those guys.

1997 700 domestic twin was sorted out
2007 dragon 700 was sorted out (although i wasnt an iq fan)
2016 axys was sorted out
2019 850 was sorted out

yeah the 900 back in the day sucked but i wouldnt say "never"

 

[BeartoothBaron]

Not sure I'd be that bummed if I'd wanted to snowcheck and missed out. Look at the first-year 850 issues (intermittent, but serious enough to warrant changes for the next year) and series 8 track issues (looks like a new driveshaft and changes to the track itself for that). I'm not trying to say "ha-ha, suckers" to the guys who are snow-checking; I'm sure Polaris will work hard to address any issues, and the limited numbers should make that easier. Plus, if you're spending that much, you can probably afford to keep a decent backup sled. But you do have to consider the first-year lottery with anything in powersports, and I wish I was seeing some indication Polaris was getting better. Hopefully the limited numbers will at least help ensure on-time deliveries; we'll see.

I doo wonder when Doo will crank up their turbo. Not counting guys who just prefer the way a Rev rides, everyone will be clamoring for the Poo turbo over the Doo as it stands right now. What is it at 10,000', 175 vs 150 HP? They might poach some sales even at that, but Poo's turbo rollout would have to be a 900-level disaster for most hard-core riders to say "don't care" about the horsepower difference. I'm sure Doo's response is coming – I can't imagine they've been caught completely off guard – but even if it's a big one, they're going to lose ground if it isn't available until '23 MY.

 

[Teej83]

I’d snowcheck a doo tomorrow if I liked the way they handle. Haven’t been on one that I’ve fully dug. Hopefully they offer up more. Otherwise aftermarket it is. Probably more sorted anyway

 

[b-litt]

I’m surprised to hear so many “Polaris loyal” guys upset that there was a limited allocation. I was told by my dealer 4-5 days before to be ready if I wanted one. He was told from his sales rep. That was also the word all over social media and my riding buddies. If a big release happened there would be a limited number.

 

[Teej83]

I’m surprised to hear so many “Polaris loyal” guys upset that there was a limited allocation. I was told by my dealer 4-5 days before to be ready if I wanted one. He was told from his sales rep. That was also the word all over social media and my riding buddies. If a big release happened there would be a limited number.

why are you surprised when it’s obvious from this thread not all of us had such a good/honest dealer? My dealer, aside from a few that work there, is awful. We who missed out are pissed because Polaris didn’t state it in the launch. Wouldn’t you be pissed to have to wait yet another year because a brand was too ****ty to declare a limited release and you didn’t get an order in because you were debating colorways?

loyalty is not why I keep riding Polaris. It’s the ride feel for the mountain sleds. Doo has been much more of a leader in design and features but the handling is wonky imo

 

[goridedoo]

Not sure I'd be that bummed if I'd wanted to snowcheck and missed out. Look at the first-year 850 issues (intermittent, but serious enough to warrant changes for the next year) and series 8 track issues (looks like a new driveshaft and changes to the track itself for that). I'm not trying to say "ha-ha, suckers" to the guys who are snow-checking; I'm sure Polaris will work hard to address any issues, and the limited numbers should make that easier. Plus, if you're spending that much, you can probably afford to keep a decent backup sled. But you do have to consider the first-year lottery with anything in powersports, and I wish I was seeing some indication Polaris was getting better. Hopefully the limited numbers will at least help ensure on-time deliveries; we'll see.

I doo wonder when Doo will crank up their turbo. Not counting guys who just prefer the way a Rev rides, everyone will be clamoring for the Poo turbo over the Doo as it stands right now. What is it at 10,000', 175 vs 150 HP? They might poach some sales even at that, but Poo's turbo rollout would have to be a 900-level disaster for most hard-core riders to say "don't care" about the horsepower difference. I'm sure Doo's response is coming – I can't imagine they've been caught completely off guard – but even if it's a big one, they're going to lose ground if it isn't available until '23 MY.

An extra 5lbs boost or so over the Doo at 10k. Probably closer to a 50hp advantage.

 

[b-litt]

why are you surprised when it’s obvious from this thread not all of us had such a good/honest dealer? My dealer, aside from a few that work there, is awful. We who missed out are pissed because Polaris didn’t state it in the launch. Wouldn’t you be pissed to have to wait yet another year because a brand was too ****ty to declare a limited release and you didn’t get an order in because you were debating colorways?

loyalty is not why I keep riding Polaris. It’s the ride feel for the mountain sleds. Doo has been much more of a leader in design and features but the handling is wonky imo

Sorry you didn’t get your way. Complaining, blaming, throwing and fit, and acting entitled might get you somewhere ?. Doubt it though...

The funny thing is that most if not all the guys complaining about not getting their turbo can’t even ride a stocker worth a sh!t. So maybe it’s a blessing in disguise ?‍.