Polaris axys vs. skidoo 850 backcountry sleds

[1500psi]

Where would this road trip take me? I may want to see if I can keep up. But I ride an old PRO.
Edit: I've had my share of problems and I'm slow but eventually I'll get there.

I live in Washington Pm me...We have months of riding left but it's spring hero snow unless you hit it just right we got 15" last night but warm by noon again. Stock for stock. I have no idea can't even fathom how you guys think Poos keep up in real snow with Doo's. I've wasted so many hours on real good snow days this year waiting on axys/pros that couldn't make it or were stuck. I actually heard this new term from
A guy last week. It's where you go pull up above the guy stuck and just sit there for moral support, I guess it's been so common this year without me even noticing it guys are calling it-"pullin a 1500psi".

 

[1500psi]

You are talking out both sides of your mouth there.

Just because YOU don't see an AXYS "beating" a Doo, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.


You don't SEE the Axys because you are down at the bottom stuck in a tree well. HAHA

Nah it always looks similar to this but this was March 15 only knee:mid thigh deep and nope no midgets in my group. Trench would look much bigger if a Polaris made it but they couldn't.

 

[1500psi]

1500 psi, you are a legend (in your own mind) and would spank Burandt, Adams and Curtis on their stock AXYS'S (in your own mind).
Reality is all 3 two strokes with a skilled rider will go where they want them to. Some of us get tired of useless posts by guys beating their own drum about how great they and their sled are....grow up and start contributing useful input to this forum PLEASE. BTW, Polaris has dominated the stock class for years at the RMSHA circuit and a lot of riders like the poo, doesn't make the other brands better or worse. BTW snowest picked the AXYS the deep powder champion sled of the year. Doesn't make it the best sled but it does work well for a lot of riders as does Doo and AC. I love the AXYS for my riding style, I am sure I would love a Doo or AC if I was on one and got it dialed for my
Riding style. Safe riding to you and your group and hopefully you will mature and get a grasp on reality...cheers

Like what snowest picks as the best anything actually matters. Every pickup made is the best in class at something. I put up a $200 ad at the beginning of the year and after 12 Polaris show up on good days and I keep seeing the same thing, what's a guy to think? But then I read all this and like I said Mind boggling how a guy thinks his 155 can smoke my Doo stock to stock.

 

[TRS]

Like what snowest picks as the best anything actually matters. Every pickup made is the best in class at something. I put up a $200 ad at the beginning of the year and after 12 Polaris show up on good days and I keep seeing the same thing, what's a guy to think? But then I read all this and like I said Mind boggling how a guy thinks his 155 can smoke my Doo stock to stock.

No 155s in my stable, even my 550 fanners are 163".
Yep we will have to do this next year. Hero snow here in Cooke this time of year also.
Coast snow is different than our Montana, Wyoming snow. I have ridden from Sonora Pass to the Pemberton Ice Fields. Cali, Oregon, Washington and BC all good places to ride. Sierra cement is good.

 

[Spaarky]

It's in video to see. You can hear the horrible shifting clutches but you still don't see that? You are completely on glue. Not only are you on glue, but your skills suck because there is no way that your rank amateur style allow to watch the guage on the way up. If you were watching, you would not have made the comment about it holding track speed.
The sled ain't back shifting and the rpms are all over the place. A properly clutched sled sounds the same ALL the way up on a climb.
Keep denying. You have a lot to learn.

Jim is pretty experienced. Be respectful. Plus video doesn't always show everything properly.

Just because you disagree doesn't give you the right to be a dick. Maybe I am reading your reply wrong.

 

[Solarguy]

Like what snowest picks as the best anything actually matters. Every pickup made is the best in class at something. I put up a $200 ad at the beginning of the year and after 12 Polaris show up on good days and I keep seeing the same thing, what's a guy to think? But then I read all this and like I said Mind boggling how a guy thinks his 155 can smoke my Doo stock to stock.

1500 psi you are right and probably the smartest guy I have never met. The test riders for Snowest probably have no skills compared to yours, are dumb compared to you and wouldn't have a clue that their consensus pick for the mountain sled of the year was the wrong one.
I get it, you are smart they are dumb, so are Burandt, Curtis, Adams and all the rest of us that think Polaris makes a good mountain sled.
It's too bad all the rest of us aren't as smart as you, we would all be on the same sled as you and maybe not as we are, I've learned a Lot from you! I had no idea how stupid all the rest of us are. 1500 psi = pure genius!!!

 

[kanedog]

Jim is pretty experienced. Be respectful. Plus video doesn't always show everything properly.

Just because you disagree doesn't give you the right to be a dick. Maybe I am reading your reply wrong.

What is wrong with you? Can't you hear the crap going on with that sled?
Drink more kool-aid and learn about how a good running sled sounds. Clue-that video has no good running sled.
What are you, Jims protector? Thx for sticking up for him. You should really tell him the truth tho. His definition of a well running sled is WRONG. Now don't be a dick.

You are reading my post correctly. I am a dyck today.

 

[Insaneboltrounder/sjohns]

such a knob

 

[kanedog]

such a knob

That's all you could come up with?
Name calling?
To top it off, you are a flat lander lake racer so your knowledge of mountain clutching is absolutely nil.

 

[Spaarky]

He said it wasn't perfect. What more do you want?

I think his assessment was probably fair. All videos are tough to tell.

 

[diamonddave]

When did we start taking all of this razzing so serious?

You guys need to lighten up...Jeremy (1500 PSI) is just having fun with you guys...he's sad that I spent my year on injured reserve. He wanted to see how a real tuned Pro handles T3's but he's laughing because of how serious and offended everybody gets when the faults of PI are pointed out.

I'll put you up next year Tony...Neck is healing and just about ready for a hero ride.

 

[Insaneboltrounder/sjohns]

That's all you could come up with?
Name calling?
To top it off, you are a flat lander lake racer so your knowledge of mountain clutching is absolutely nil.

you would prefer.. loud mouthed , know nothing , rude , blowhard windbag , yappy hillbilly.

 

[kanedog]

you would prefer.. loud mouthed , know nothing , rude , blowhard windbag , yappy hillbilly.

Actually, I prefer it that way!

 

[kanedog]

When did we start taking all of this razzing so serious?

You guys need to lighten up...Jeremy (1500 PSI) is just having fun with you guys...he's sad that I spent my year on injured reserve. He wanted to see how a real tuned Pro handles T3's but he's laughing because of how serious and offended everybody gets when the faults of PI are pointed out.

I'll put you up next year Tony...Neck is healing and just about ready for a hero ride.

Shaddup Dave.

 

[Solarguy]

When did we start taking all of this razzing so serious?

You guys need to lighten up...Jeremy (1500 PSI) is just having fun with you guys...he's sad that I spent my year on injured reserve. He wanted to see how a real tuned Pro handles T3's but he's laughing because of how serious and offended everybody gets when the faults of PI are pointed out.

I'll put you up next year Tony...Neck is healing and just about ready for a hero ride.

OK I Get it, 1500 has been stirring the pot and laughing at us. Good to know he is having fun and not serious...

 

[snowmanx]

There is only a debate because the Doo guys are desperate to catch up to the Polaris. The Axys is so good they feel they need to try and find faults with it to make their poor choice look better. They act like 50cc's and 10 hp is going to make that old crate a world beater. It still has a list of problems they haven't corrected. It hasn't caught up and wont until Doo gets serious and properly redesigns the chassis for mountain riding. The Doo guys are still clinging to reliability as their trump card against the Poo. Sadly, the Poo's just are not exploding anymore and that supposedly poor engine design spanks their ride off the line all day long.


You need to ride them to make the choice. Some people can live with mechanical parts sharing the foot well spaces, and a wobbly rear skid, and a flat steering post angle to get an extra 500 miles form a set of pistons. I wouldn't keep either around that long so I choose the lighter, quicker, superior riding machine.

I ride a 08 doo, 08 turbo Nytro, I don't know what the debate is about. I can get on either of these sleds and take them anywhere ANY of the new sleds can go. May be a little harder, but they all do the same thing, some just take a little more effort. I rode a 16 doo 174 and I thought it was extremely nimble. Hard to imagine anything much better.

BTW, just remember that it is because of doo that you have an axys. Basic chassis design is obviously inspired by Doo.

 

[jim]

It's in video to see. You can hear the horrible shifting clutches but you still don't see that? You are completely on glue. Not only are you on glue, but your skills suck because there is no way that your rank amateur style allow to watch the guage on the way up. If you were watching, you would not have made the comment about it holding track speed.*
The sled ain't back shifting and the rpms are all over the place. A properly clutched sled sounds the same ALL the way up on a climb.*
Keep denying. You have a lot to learn.

I think it is important to understand that when i did that climb, the 660 i was riding most of the day had 3 burritos in the hotdogger, 2 steak and beans burritos and only one chicken chimichanga (which i think is difficult to argue that it is my favorite...but i could be wrong). During that climb, all 3 burritos were simmering from the hot pipe. My point is, sometimes the burritos are the best when you climb for a bit and then let them simmer. I think it difficult to argue im an amateur if i know that. Did i mention they were delicious?

 

[Slick]

I ride a 08 doo, 08 turbo Nytro, I don't know what the debate is about. I can get on either of these sleds and take them anywhere ANY of the new sleds can go. May be a little harder, but they all do the same thing, some just take a little more effort. I rode a 16 doo 174 and I thought it was extremely nimble. Hard to imagine anything much better.

BTW, just remember that it is because of doo that you have an axys. Basic chassis design is obviously inspired by Doo.

Inspired by Doo, LOL. Ok , if you're gonna pot stir, at least make it kinda real. Cause the Pro chassis then the Axys was copied from the XP, bandaided of course , even made narrower in 17 , get real you must be mainlining the doolaid. Doo guys'll still be on a tank XP chassis if Poo and Cat hadn't made the changes in 11 and 12. Other than the etec, great motor, Doo is really playing catchup, and maybe doing ok in 17, we'll see.

 

[Jaynelson]

this thread is equal parts brain damage and making me want Mexican food

 

[turboless terry]

I ride a 08 doo, 08 turbo Nytro, I don't know what the debate is about. I can get on either of these sleds and take them anywhere ANY of the new sleds can go. May be a little harder, but they all do the same thing, some just take a little more effort. I rode a 16 doo 174 and I thought it was extremely nimble. Hard to imagine anything much better.

BTW, just remember that it is because of doo that you have an axys. Basic chassis design is obviously inspired by Doo.

I'm sorry, but they don't go the same places. I had an 08 nytro. I had one. Your boards and body limit you. I know you have the horsepower but the boards, if stock, are way too fat and drag badly when layed over on edge. Before I turboed mine you could crank around, in a meadow, and feel them dragging you down. I am not trying to be a jerk. I am just saying the 08 doo and nytro are physically limited compared to the Axys and new doo. I guess it's a matter if you are climbing or playing on a steep slope in the trees.