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OnStar will get you a ticket or prove liability

Ruffy I am against the Patriot Act.

Find it funny that some that were not of the R persuasion laid Bush out for that...and yet nobody is doing anything. Like several of the Bush ideas, everyone talks bad about them(as they are) but they will keep them around for precedents in the future.
 
So are you guys for or against the patriot act? Ben Franklin would role over his grave from that little gem too....

I am against it.

I also find it funny that some criticize Bush for it but Obama is leaving it in place and it's nothing but crickets.

Obama is turning out to be way more like Bush than many thought, and not in the good areas.

Torture, wiretapping, etc. it's all wrong.
 
How about the little bubble in the middle of the dash of the Chevy's??? That's a camera and they're watching you!!! I can't believe the delusional paranoia I am readin on here. :rolleyes: I could care less if they follow me around and record my every move.....it will bore them to death!
 
How about the little bubble in the middle of the dash of the Chevy's??? That's a camera and they're watching you!!! I can't believe the delusional paranoia I am readin on here. :rolleyes: I could care less if they follow me around and record my every move.....it will bore them to death!

sounds a lot like the DTV cameras they were supposedly putting in there.

I know a handful of people that were against the DTV transition because now that nice strong analog carrier frequency for their bistatic radar setups for tracking UFO's is gone.
 
I love how the "Paranoids" make the leap from automated keyword listening, to the gov't listening in on every conversation!! LMAO!!

But hey, build your bunker, stock up on ammo and MRE's, and hide from "big brother"...you can join your brothers from the 60's, I'm sure they can use some relief by now!!

IMO, life is too short to waste time and energy on the paranoid drama.

Now get to it, you have a bunker to build!! :D :beer;
 
You are absolutely right, we should just let the politicians do whatever the heck they want. They have our best interests at heart right, I mean look at the GREAT job they've been doing lately. :rolleyes:

Unknown lady - "What have you given us?"
Benjamin Franklin - "A Republic if you can keep it."

Obviously some of you have no interest in keeping it. That's OK though, only Millions of people died for it.
 
I fully comprehend what computers, or should I say, massively parallel digital processing algorithms embedded in FPGA matrix are capable of. It's not one sentence or even an idle threat made on the internet, it's the ability to pull up long term social behavior, manipulate it, and use it against you in court. If some federal guy gets mad at any one of you, and pulls up all your comments on the internet, then selectively filters them, he could make any of you appear to be whatever he wants.

It's synonymous with thousands of little laws, that no one enforces, unless the cop wants to hold you or put pressure on you. Guy I worked with, back talked a drunken cop. The cop pushes him up against the wall, and starts telling him how he's a cop, and he'll just wait outside of work, and find some reason to pull him over. Guess what, the cop did. And, there wasn't anything he could do about his trip to jail. Of course, charges where dropped after he spent a 4 hours in jail, and went through a strip search.

Besides, with OnStar it's not the federal government most of us have to worry about, it's insurance companies data mining for high risk behaviors. And, always being able to come up with an excuse, why your rates went up. There's not one person on this board, that hasn't driven a pickup a little overloaded, or picked up a little too much speed going over a hill, or cut a red light a little close, or did a U turn out in the middle of no where. And, I'm sure the car companies would love to use data, to denie warranty coverage. And, like JeffC said, the government would love to find a reason to tax you more. Besides OnStar's intentions have nothing to do with this, all it takes is one bill, and Governement Motors will roll over and give the government whatever they ask for.

I don't support the patriot act either, never have. Stupidest thing Bush ever did. Also believe his stimulus checks where started the communist ball rolling in this country.
 
first of all you don't need a PC, or Onstar ..email or a cell to take part in the Patriot Act ...the simple gathering of 7 or more in a collective base with a common goal or initiative gives the spooks all the ammo that they need .......good luck with that
 
Santa is always watching us, so I'm not worried about the government watching too... Unless they show up with reindeer and give me presents.. If that's the case, I want a xbox 360
 
I don't think big brother is watching everyone. What worries me is that they have the ability to do so. What if you were riding an area that was close to a wilderness, and someone else rode into the wilderness. The forrest service sees tracks, checks to see who has a day use sticker that particular day and narrows it down to 3 vehicles. Now they call big brother and ask them to watch you for a while to see if you are the one who did the dastardly deed. Hell, if you MIGHT have road the wilderness, you MIGHT be a terrorist too!:D
I just think once you are on the "list" you will never get off. That is my paranoid thought for today.
 
found more
"Prosecutor Richard Kelly said Tuesday the data recorder in Smith's vehicle showed he was driving 67 miles per hour in a spot where the speed limit was 35 mph. Both Smith and Bell were ejected from the vehicle after impact."

heres the rest

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4298594

That's good use of the system right there. Suppose they were doing this and hit YOUR kid.....then you'd be grateful the system was there to help prove fault and punish the guilty party.
 
That's good use of the system right there. Suppose they were doing this and hit YOUR kid.....then you'd be grateful the system was there to help prove fault and punish the guilty party.

I agree the information can be of good use BUT the point I was trying to make is:

Whos information is it to use?

I mean you PAID for the vehicle which includes all the high tech eqpt that comes on it. You PAID to use OnStar. So IMO, the information belongs to you and yet they will use this information against you and without your permission.
 
I agree the information can be of good use BUT the point I was trying to make is:

Whos information is it to use?

I mean you PAID for the vehicle which includes all the high tech eqpt that comes on it. You PAID to use OnStar. So IMO, the information belongs to you and yet they will use this information against you and without your permission.

You also PAY to use a doctor, pay to see councilors, but they can and in some cases have to give out the information.
 
I agree the information can be of good use BUT the point I was trying to make is:

Whos information is it to use?

I mean you PAID for the vehicle which includes all the high tech eqpt that comes on it. You PAID to use OnStar. So IMO, the information belongs to you and yet they will use this information against you and without your permission.

This type of information is on virtually all new cars, whether you pay for it or not......like the black box on a airliner.
 
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