Okay, serious question

[P_Ray3040]

silber

i live in wisconsin and say elevation as mn and i bought his 2012 for my 2011 assault and my brother did the same thing. me or my brother had no experience with installing turbos on anything and we have put on around 500 miles on each of them and never had one issue there awesome u pull the cord and go any time u have questions justin is there within a day if he doesnt answer. he was very busy last year but i seen that he must be some what teamed up with boston racing on here so u could probably get good custmer service from them this year if he doesnt answer. we went out west with them dropped our green light i believe it was and the sled ran flawless if u have a pro silber is the way to go in MN.

 

[hilpulr]

Silber

My father in law put a Silber kit on his 12 Pro and it is a very impressive. The power is of course great and the fit and finish is very nice as well. My in law also said that the customer service was great as well. Not trying to get myself in the fight just giving my opinion.

 

[tdblakes]

I dont care to explain our relationship with PUSH turbos over the internet.

We used to be great friends and stay at the same cabin and test sleds together.

That has recently changed, some friends you just can not trust.

Contact Silber turbos, for special pricing on our kits if you currently own a PUSH or plan on getting one.

Sorry for the negative man, bumped the screen on my phone!! Sorry man!

 

[dyllaboy]

What does everyone think of boondockers by vohk? I have herd silver is great, but some thing BD is better, what is your opinion?

 

[Vi-PEC Powersports]

Been around push's kits for past 4 years, Never once seen one that runs good. However hes a good guy and offers good support to his customers.

My pro has pulled many PUSH sleds back to our testing cabin together.

Go Ken keep up the back stabbing work.

Very Bold Statement Justin, i for myself, been around A LOT of sleds running your polaris kit and not too many were running good also.....lots of threads on here to back it up....you are walking on a very slippery terrain with comments like that.

 

[diamonddave]

Been around push's kits for past 4 years, Never once seen one that runs good. However hes a good guy and offers good support to his customers.

My pro has pulled many PUSH sleds back to our testing cabin together.

Go Ken keep up the back stabbing work.

Were these turbo Pro's coming back to the test cabin on the hook or some other brand sled?

 

[friscospices.com]

I think the silber kit runs great. I have 4 riding buddies that also think they run great. Stop with the bashing if you dont own one thats not running good. Or do you have a personal beef with Justin that your venting here. How many Push Pro's are out there anyway? Which company sold the most turbo's for pro's the past 2 seasons? I have no idea but it does make a difference. For the most part isn't it true if 1 kit builder sold 10 times more kits than another kit builder would you expect more problems just the fact he would have more kits for problems to happen to. Maybe we should mention Skandi and her Turbo experience, I think she is big boring her replacemnt sled. Who's kit was that? What happened to her motor? Who's fuel controller was protecting her motor? How many Silber burn downs did we hear about? And how many more Silber kits where out there than compared to the kit she was running. So stop bashing it makes this site look like a bunch of back stabbers. Peace

 

[Super Sled]

I think the silber kit runs great. I have 4 riding buddies that also think they run great. So stop with the bashing if you dont own one thats not running good. Or do you have a personal beef with Justin that your venting here. No one vendor should start bashing it makes them look like idiots. Plus it just causes that bashed vendor to respond in a not so positve manner. How many Push Pro's are out there anyway? Which company sold the most turbo's for pro's the past 2 seasons? For the most part isn't it true if 1 kit builder sold 10 times more kits than another kit builder would you expect more problems just the fact he would have more kits for problems to happen to. Maybe we should mention Sadie and her Turbo experience, I think she is big boring her replacemnt sled. Who's kit was that? What happened to her motor? Who's fuel controller was protecting her motor? How many Silber burn downs did we hear about? And how many more Silber kits where out there than compared to the kit she was running. So stop bashing it makes this site look like a bunch of back stabbers. Peace

Hey Frisco please answer your own questions you posed because i'd like to know the answers to them, for my own information. Thank you.

Does any vendor make a specific flat land kit?

 

[friscospices.com]

I would like those answers too. But I doubt any builder is going to tell how many kits they sell. Who knows maybe someone will have the info. I know silber runs his kit in Park Rapids Mn about the same elevation as you.

 

[m1kflyingtiger]

I think the silber kit runs great. I have 4 riding buddies that also think they run great. Stop with the bashing if you dont own one thats not running good. Or do you have a personal beef with Justin that your venting here. How many Push Pro's are out there anyway? Which company sold the most turbo's for pro's the past 2 seasons? I have no idea but it does make a difference. For the most part isn't it true if 1 kit builder sold 10 times more kits than another kit builder would you expect more problems just the fact he would have more kits for problems to happen to. Maybe we should mention Sadie and her Turbo experience, I think she is big boring her replacemnt sled. Who's kit was that? What happened to her motor? Who's fuel controller was protecting her motor? How many Silber burn downs did we hear about? And how many more Silber kits where out there than compared to the kit she was running. So stop bashing it makes this site look like a bunch of back stabbers. Peace

I blew a Silber....but an install error had her running bad, then when I fixed it I got greedy with the boost. Pretty sure 12 lbs at sea level on av would blow most, if not all, kits. I don't know Justin's experience with push, and have never been on a push pro, but Justin makes one hell of a turbo kit. Most of the problems I have heard about were install error. I have seen good running push cats and yamis as well. And if you read the threads about skandi's sled they had a prototype ecu that didn't have turbo mapping on it. They were testing it out before it was ready, with FULL knowledge of that.

Sorry for the rant

 

[smokindave]

Very Bold Statement Justin, i for myself, been around A LOT of sleds running your polaris kit and not too many were running good also.....lots of threads on here to back it up....you are walking on a very slippery terrain with comments like that.

Very bold and misleading statement yourself,after looking around I found one thread on here maybe two with the Silber dissapointment thread and he admitted to being a butthead with Justin and got cut off so he started the thread.

I found LOTS of threads and posts about people being happy with and praising Silber's service and his kit.
You cannot go on slandering people and their products on the inter web,eventually its going to cost you $$$$

 

[friscospices.com]

I blew a Silber....but an install error had her running bad, then when I fixed it I got greedy with the boost. Pretty sure 12 lbs at sea level on av would blow most, if not all, kits. I don't know Justin's experience with push, and have never been on a push pro, but Justin makes one hell of a turbo kit. Most of the problems I have heard about were install error. I have seen good running push cats and yamis as well. And if you read the threads about skandi's sled they had a prototype ecu that didn't have turbo mapping on it. They were testing it out before it was ready, with FULL knowledge of that.

Sorry for the rant

I dont think it was a prototype ECU. I know they where working on the mapping and had it running good with 110 but I dont think anyone would just bail off the 110 and go strait to pump gas if they didnt have the map ready for pump gas. Someone told her to go ahead and try it on pump gas. This was the end of the season last year. So how much testing and time does that ECU and that mapping have on the snow with a pump gas set up? I assume they are selling them right now? SO do people buying those kits get an ECU that has mapping in it for a PG/RG turbo. At least Justins kit comes with a fuel controller with a map in it that wont burn down motors, if you follow his instructions. If Justin had sent out a bunch of kits with a fuel contoller for the customer to figure out he would have been drug over the coals, bbq'd and served up on a platter. I am sure we will have penty of the Push and HM turbo's out there this year with the Precision EFI Ecu installed and then we will see. I for one hope it works great. I would love to be able to ride my mountain sled at home. Now I have to have an extra sled for riding low elevations. No matter, it will all come out about Feb 1 we will know who's kits are running great and who's are not. I for one hope all the kits run great, becuase good competition is good for consumers pocketbooks.

 

[Boston Racing]

What does everyone think of boondockers by vohk? I have herd silver is great, but some thing BD is better, what is your opinion?

Vohk turbos run well. Better is subjective. I think they both run fairly equal. The Silber is 3 grand cheaper installed if you get in on the snowcheck program.

 

[smokindave]

Vohk turbos run well. Better is subjective. I think they both run fairly equal. The Silber is 3 grand cheaper installed if you get in on the snowcheck program.

And even more savings if you install it yourself!
If I was getting one though I would want someone that has installed them before to do mine.
Excellent deal IMO....Cheers

 

[friscospices.com]

I am sure Volk does a better job than most installing Boondockers kit. Eric has been working with the boondocker kit for years with the cats. My riding buddy from Salt Lake City had a Boondocker Turbo in his Pro and issue after issue with mapping, but did get it dialed in mid season. It was at the shop more than once. Now he says it runs really good, we'll see I meet up with those guys mid Dec in Cooke to ride so after that I will give my honest findings.

 

[Boston Racing]

We ride with Matt Entz who is a sponsored Vohk rider. His sled rips no doubt. If I wasnt so fond of my own work and Silber Turbo Kits...... I would have no problem having Vohk install a BD kit for me.

 

[Silber]

Very Bold Statement Justin, i for myself, been around A LOT of sleds running your polaris kit and not too many were running good also.....lots of threads on here to back it up....you are walking on a very slippery terrain with comments like that.

HAHA, Dude are you serious, You should just quit, maybe the dobeck boys and some other customers that meet with you this last wintr will chime in on the truth.

I will agree, our turbo kit is not 100% and it may never be, however we strive for a consumer kit, that is very user friendly, easy install, and affordable for most.

Do you see us on every turbo thread, saying if you had our product it would run and run 100%. NO.

Get a life Precision EFI.

As for you snowesters, stay tuned for some great humor. I have a friend that had to ride a push sled for 1/2 a day. He is tempted to get on here and post his experience. I will leave it to him.

 

[OutWest]

Well, i think both kits will work good. Push and Silber. But i cant say that i would go for anything with a dobeck controller. When i got interested in turbo kits i started to talk with people that have silber and bd kit`s on their sleds. Some people with the silber kit went through a ****tload of dobeck boxes, i have also been talking to people that has some experince with those boxes from other then turbo sleds. Some of them will never go back to dobeck no matter what, it could be that someone is lucky and some dont. Like everything else.. I even know of a guy that bought Boost It system to his Silber kit to make it run good, just because of that dobeck crap. Keep in mind that i am not bashing Silber and also keep in mind that everything on the mountain doesn`t slip in to snowest or other places. Anyway, Silber has many happy customers and some dont. They who isn`t happy is because of the dobeck, that is my guess.. The kit in general seems to be very good. Peace out.

 

[YamYboy]

Im one of hundreds extremely happy silber turbo owners. 0ft to 12000ft the sled rocks. Glad to see justin on here!

 

[snow4shover]

I see this is just like every other thread on snowest that goes completely off topic. I was trying to stay away from dramawest....but OutWest's post was a little out there.

I can tell you that 90% of all the problems with our controllers are the people pressing the buttons. I probably had 30 or so people send their controllers back to me last year off Silber's Kits, Push Kits, Aerocharger Kits, HM Turbos Kits, etc. I think I only replaced a couple boost sensor and that was just cause I didn't want to hear anymore complaining. Most of the time it turned out to be the users not being able to adjust the controller or problems with the sled.

I actually invited anyone to Dobeck to prove me wrong last year and all kinds of people showed up.....and the result was NEVER a problem with the box.

All had Silber Turbo Kits
Watts Up Toyz came by 2 times. First time was 4 sleds and every controller worked like it was supposed...but the sleds on the other hand not so well. They had TPS issues, fuel pumps and boost lines with zip ties pinching off hoses. The second time samething....tps issues. I even went for a ride with Bryan and Troy. We had 3 Silber turbos out that day on a good 2-3 foot day. All the sleds ran great expect Troy's that was having a "DET" issue that turned out to be a TPS issues causing an over rev which puts the sled in to DET mode....I could elaborate but that would be over most people's heads.

We had another gentlemen stop by from Canada and he had gone through 2 engines which we got blamed for. I start taking apart the sled and find that the reference line for the controller had rubbed on the jack shaft. Kinda hard for that line to build pressure with a 1 inch wide hole in....but that was the controller's fault. I put Silber's base line settings in the controller and went out and rode it in the grass. Seemed to run good so he went onto Cooke City for the weekend where he never touched the box and just rode all weekend. Part of the reason for him going to Cooke City was to meet up with the Vipec crew to check out how their sleds were running. He then called me on his way back to Canada to tell me how amazing his sled ran in Cooke City and how he destroyed a HM Turbo with a Vipec on at the same boost level....but if you ask anyone...that didn't happen......whatever......Needless to say I still talk to him all the time. He loves his sled now and he has decided that 8 psi is a lot to hang onto. So his sled was tuned at 4000 feet and ran great for him at cooke at an elevation of 7500-10000 feet.

I'm not going to say that our controllers are 100% perfect and the most bad*ss thing on the market but they work good for what people spend on them. A Vipec is going to work better than any plug n play but you have to be able to tune it and afford it. People can't understand 6 modes and 3 push buttons how are they ever going to be able to tune a Standalone. I'm sure someone is going to come on here and say that you never have to tune a Vipec but that is a straight up lie.

Anyone is invited to Dobeck this winter to prove that our controller is failing. If the issues are Dobeck's fault then we will pay and if the problem is not the Dobeck's fault then the customer will pay for our shop time.