nytro vs. XP

[yukondood]

I have riden both and can not decide which to buy.

Feedback??

I am aware of the quality assurance stuff with doo, all fixable in my opinion.

My goal with a nytro would be to boost, but not going to happen this year.

Question is out of the box how far off is the nytro from the XP in the hills and boondocking??

I have riden doo the last 15 years and like the reliability of yamaha

 

[summitboy]

Look i like popcorn just as much as the next guy BUT buy the Nytro the XP is a tin can piece of junk ! Although the XP works pretty good other than it blows belts, secondary falls out of adjustment, handwarmers quit, shocks go flat, instruments are sketchy, time and money to reclutch/regear and machining of the secondary. Take it for what its worth !

Send me the popcorn !!!

 

[Turbo Tim]

Stock to stock , the nytro won't keep up, but is plenty of fun boondocking and playing around . If you have the money for a turbo though .....The nytro will kill it , and run forever without all the smoke , engine rebuilds , belt problems etc.

 

[obr]

Get the Nytro and never look back....The XP will climb better stock for stock, but, can't beat the reliability and the fit and finish of the Nytro...

I don't want to say it, but since Tim already did...Turbo it, and never EVER look back..unless when your friends on xp's are stuck 1/10th up the hill and you have to help them....

 

[yukondood]

not looking for a popcirn debate, as I stated I have riden doo for last 15 years and feel I am now a certifed doo technician due to all the work I have had to do to my sled over theyears.

If I buy another doo, I am aware of the work needed to update , maintain and rebuild.

Simply can not do the turbo this year and wonder stcok vs. stock.

I agree out of the box doo will out perform, with issues.

I am on the 4-stroke lean

 

[DARKO]

Besides all the above being said, the Nytro as all other Yami products are super reliable. Turn the key and ride, no visits to the dealer till 5000 km's when you need an oil filter. For me, the reliabilty is the most important part, nothig worse than fuggin with your sled daily, buying gears, belts, chains and the list goes on. And, look at the potetial the 4 stroke offers, down the rode you can buy a turbo and still be 20 times more reliable with an extra 150 HP.

As well, you will find in this Yami section (crowd) is prolly the best group, most knowledgable and most helpfull out of all the other brands on here. Not a decision maker i know, but it sure is nice to have a good group of fella's always helping one another rather than being a bunch of asshats.

 

[ruffryder]

I had the same decision as you. Finally went with a nytro. Never going to get a turbo for it so I was looking stock vs. stock. They are both excellent machines, and I for one will never be hindered by the performance either of them offers. I am definitely the limiting factor in the ability to get the sled up a hill.

My thoughts were that I don't have a lot of time due to a new job, so I am looking for a sled that will be a pull and go, or rather turn and go. I didn't want to be working on it during the weekends, I wanted to be riding it.

Finally, I flipped a half dollar coin, heads nytro, tails skidoo, and it came up heads, so I went with it.

Being clean and quiet played a factor in the decision also. The fuel economy is pretty good too.

I have had a bunch of people on rev summits take my sled for a spin, and they all liked it a lot.

Good luck with the decision.

 

[skibreeze]

If boost was not an option, I'd go Doo. I think that you will love the nitro once it's boosted.

 

[up-high]

Besides all the above being said, the Nytro as all other Yami products are super reliable. Turn the key and ride, no visits to the dealer till 5000 km's when you need an oil filter. For me, the reliabilty is the most important part, nothig worse than fuggin with your sled daily, buying gears, belts, chains and the list goes on. And, look at the potetial the 4 stroke offers, down the rode you can buy a turbo and still be 20 times more reliable with an extra 150 HP.

As well, you will find in this Yami section (crowd) is prolly the best group, most knowledgable and most helpfull out of all the other brands on here. Not a decision maker i know, but it sure is nice to have a good group of fella's always helping one another rather than being a bunch of asshats.

What Darko said. Who you callin an a$$hat, a$$hat?

 

[snoblinders]

i was trying to decide over the same two sleds, and could't decide so got both, sounds great i know but now i have twice the headaches.

the xp is retarded on belts, my first one lasted 9 miles! but it is fixable, extra pin weight, fix the secondary adjuster, and maybee new primary spring. now for the nytro it needed just as much or more tinkering with the clutching to set it up, and it is going to need a new helix for it to work properly stock.

the hand warmers on my xp still work fine and there is a fix if they quit, the nytro warmers seem to be very cold even on the highest setting.

the suspension on the xp is killer stock. no complaints and im 275 lbs. the nytro on the other hand is horrible stock. it needs ohlins all the way around.

both sleds feel great sidehilling or carving cant feel any extra weight on the nytro, until it gets stuck. power wise they feel close on the trail, but as soon as you get in deep snow the xp will leave it badly, and it should has 15 extra hp and quite a bit lighter. i have a challenger extreme on my nytro, 16x162x2.5 and it is needed for sure unless you ride only trails.

the nytro would also benefit from a larger gas tank, still waiting for the trail tanks. if you turbo the nytro, Darkos tunnel dump exhaust sounds like the way to go, but for no turbo id be looking at a tunnel dump too, just so you can carry extra gas a little easier.

they are both nice sleds and to tell you the truth if you still want the xp i would wait till next year for some of the bugs to get worked out. the nytro is nice, just lots of extras needed to ride it, even without a turbo.

oh yeah and for all the bashing the xp got about how week it would be, there are a few tweaked nytros out there already too, so dont let the chassis strength sway you either.

 

[Butta]

i was trying to decide over the same two sleds, and could't decide so got both, sounds great i know but now i have twice the headaches.

the xp is retarded on belts, my first one lasted 9 miles! but it is fixable, extra pin weight, fix the secondary adjuster, and maybee new primary spring. now for the nytro it needed just as much or more tinkering with the clutching to set it up, and it is going to need a new helix for it to work properly stock.

the hand warmers on my xp still work fine and there is a fix if they quit, the nytro warmers seem to be very cold even on the highest setting.

the suspension on the xp is killer stock. no complaints and im 275 lbs. the nytro on the other hand is horrible stock. it needs ohlins all the way around.

both sleds feel great sidehilling or carving cant feel any extra weight on the nytro, until it gets stuck. power wise they feel close on the trail, but as soon as you get in deep snow the xp will leave it badly, and it should has 15 extra hp and quite a bit lighter. i have a challenger extreme on my nytro, 16x162x2.5 and it is needed for sure unless you ride only trails.

the nytro would also benefit from a larger gas tank, still waiting for the trail tanks. if you turbo the nytro, Darkos tunnel dump exhaust sounds like the way to go, but for no turbo id be looking at a tunnel dump too, just so you can carry extra gas a little easier.

they are both nice sleds and to tell you the truth if you still want the xp i would wait till next year for some of the bugs to get worked out. the nytro is nice, just lots of extras needed to ride it, even without a turbo.

oh yeah and for all the bashing the xp got about how week it would be, there are a few tweaked nytros out there already too, so dont let the chassis strength sway you either.

I guess your signature says it all.....maybe all about how you really feel. I think you're a bit off the mark here. Stock for stock, the XP will out climb, out run, and out boon dock (deep powder speaking) the nytro any day of the week. HOWEVER, in "normal powder" conditions (not super light, deep-get-stuck-all-the-time snow) there is very little difference between the two. The Nytro IS heavier, but it is also balanced to perfection. Carving is much easier on the Nytro (I don't even really get sore any more) compared to my old REV.

To answer your question, though, brand new stock for stock the XP WILL outperform the Nytro......put about 3,000 miles on them, though, and I think you'll find the Nytro will hold up it's performance while the 'doo will, well, be a piece of "doo"........

Longevity.......even under boost, gotta love it!!! Gas (no oil) and go!!

 

[johnny be bad]

I guess your signature says it all.....maybe all about how you really feel. I think you're a bit off the mark here. Stock for stock, the XP will out climb, out run, and out boon dock (deep powder speaking) the nytro any day of the week. HOWEVER, in "normal powder" conditions (not super light, deep-get-stuck-all-the-time snow) there is very little difference between the two. The Nytro IS heavier, but it is also balanced to perfection. Carving is much easier on the Nytro (I don't even really get sore any more) compared to my old REV.

To answer your question, though, brand new stock for stock the XP WILL outperform the Nytro......put about 3,000 miles on them, though, and I think you'll find the Nytro will hold up it's performance while the 'doo will, well, be a piece of "doo"........

Longevity.......even under boost, gotta love it!!! Gas (no oil) and go!!

i was at the same bridge! xp or nytro, i went xp a buddie went nytro. as for power, climbing, boondocking, xp all the way. reliability, dont ever want to touch it, go nytro. turbo vs mod xp, nytro its a given, but as said on this post both are not perfect, xp, belts and handwarmers, nytro needs stiffer suspension, more power and a bigger track. but it all comes down to what you like and where you ride.

 

[steveo10]

My opinion is the same as the rest. Seen a nytro climbing this weekend without the boost. It held its ground, but not as good as the XP. Of course if you plan on the boost go for the nytro

 

[ttheat]

How Does The Nitro Compare To Xrs151

I Know That The Xp Is Alot Lighter Than A Xrs So Will The Nitro Compare To The Xrs In The Steep And Deep? I Know That The Xrs Has More Hp But The Nitro Has More Torque.

 

[4bangrboost]

in the long run the nytro will pay off big time, definatly if you could turbo it next season

 

[LETRGO]

So it's obvious that the xp will out climb the Nytro.Buy does anyone make a piston and cam package to make more hp for the Nytro. Sounds like it would be a fun sled with about 165hp. What is the stock hp on a Nytro?

 

[4bangrboost]

130 hp

 

[tmk50]

130 hp

138.6

but who's counting


http://www.amsnow.com/sno/default.aspx?c=a&id=3246

"The numbers tell the story of a 138.6-horsepower brute that hits with a ton of torque....."

 

[Ultralord]

Besides all the above being said, the Nytro as all other Yami products are super reliable. Turn the key and ride, no visits to the dealer till 5000 km's when you need an oil filter. For me, the reliabilty is the most important part, nothig worse than fuggin with your sled daily, buying gears, belts, chains and the list goes on. And, look at the potetial the 4 stroke offers, down the rode you can buy a turbo and still be 20 times more reliable with an extra 150 HP.

As well, you will find in this Yami section (crowd) is prolly the best group, most knowledgable and most helpfull out of all the other brands on here. Not a decision maker i know, but it sure is nice to have a good group of fella's always helping one another rather than being a bunch of asshats.

Hay its guys Like Darko that are willing to take the time to publish clutching manuals that make my apex hit so hard that it will blow your arse clean off if you dont hang on. Ya it is heavy But its more fun than a fat chick that can suck the crome off a trailer hitch

 

[4bangrboost]

"more fun than a fat chick that can suck the crome off a trailer hitch" haha i like that! and its true...boost is awsom