The primary reason to carry a shovel is so you can dig out and save a riding buddy, it does you no good buried in the avy on your sled. As long as everyone is carrying the proper gear on their person even if you are buried with your gear, you will be covered. Getting the sled dug out / unstuck is not a life and death situation. If you still think otherwise; I can only hope you never end up on the Darwin Awards.
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The primary reason to carry a shovel is so you can dig out and save a riding buddy, it does you no good buried in the avy on your sled. As long as everyone is carrying the proper gear on their person even if you are buried with your gear, you will be covered. Getting the sled dug out / unstuck is not a life and death situation. If you still think otherwise; I can only hope you never end up on the Darwin Awards.
I get that they use his name for selling but i am really starting to believe polaris has put a lot of trust into chris to tell them what really works and what sucks or what needs improvement. Polaris is listening, making stuff that really does work and then in part, giving him credit and promoting at the same time. I am really starting to believe that the negative comments coming out about burandt are really out of pure jealousy. Its ludicrous to me that someone that is obviously EXTREMELY talented in the sport that we all love, has teamed up with a big brand, made himself AND that brand better and is now going to be pushing the crap out of the competition is still getting **** from people. Its like the cat guys talking **** about rasmussens blog on the pro climbs. Think and say what you want, but if you rode a pro climb that was set up by him with his fixes vs one that wasnt... it would be very clear what sled is better. These guys do this for living... they know what works and what doesnt work. Get your jealous head of your a$$ and learn something.
If ski doo had a mtn sled that the pro back country guys could really get better on and enjoy riding... maybe he would. Not trying to bag specifically on the doos.... but lets be 100 percent real here... poo is the only brand right now that is currently building a BACKCOUNTRY specific MOUNTAIN sled. Its no big wonder why everyone is trying to sell whatever they are riding now for a poo.
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Arcteryx
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Lol, that's the primary reason is it??? Or is that your primary reason?? What about people that ride just trails or flats??? Any chance that there is any other primary use for these people.
While I'm well aware that carrying a shovel on your pack is what's advocated and preferred for slide terrain, the part of your post that I reject is the big bolded statement claiming that a shovel does "zero good" if it's on your sled. What about people that don't or won't wear packs. Or for those that do but who's packs won't accommodate a shovel? My concern is that your statement might convince a portion of this group that its not even worth buying a shovel to carry on their sled since it will do them "zero good" after a slide. As long as the shovels not buried it has the potential to a lot of good whether is on your back or mounted to your sled.
I'm sure your intentions are good but the unintended consequences of your dramatic yet false statement might cost the wrong group of people a life. If you can't, don't or won't ride with your shovel on your back put one on your sled. It might make a huge difference.
My buddies and I ride with packs, shovels, probes, beckons, airbags, gps radios and other safety gear so if you see me in the Darwin awards it was probably for trying something really syck. So while it might look stupid I was probably well aware of the risks and having a kick a$$ time.
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1. This is SnoWEST. What flatland, trail riders do with their shovels does not apply here.
2. No excuses ! Carry your shovel and probe in your backpack. If your pack will not accomodate a shovel and probe, BUY A DIFFERENT PACK ! There is no other acceptable spot to carry this gear when someone's life could depend on it.
BRP is Canadian... In Canada we are ALL pro backcountry riders.
HV..what about those of us who carry one in the pack...and one on the sled?..I carry both for several reasons...primarily so I dont have to remove my avy pack when I am in a potential avy situation(stuck on a hill) and I find it much easier to just grab the shovel off the sled then dig out the one in my pack..and so just in case for some reason I break a shovel digging a sled out I still have a shovel for avies...
Hey Eric, got any pics and info on the new guage lifter/goggle bag setup?Yea... the new stuff is pretty cool... got a good look with the marketing people at the demo...
The running Boards are well done and will be able to be retrofit to the new sleds or to the previous model year Pro Chassis RMK's.
They are constructed from extruded 6060-T6 aluminum...the snow clean-ou than these is phenomenal and the pow coat (may be E-coat) will make them even more ice resistant. For you huckers and people that really "put the hurt" to the sled..these will be just what you are looking for... PLUS the added benefit of being a Polaris approved accessory that will not void your chassis warrantee if installed correctly. The standard boards are excellent.. but for those of you that want the color and HD features over the ultimate in weight savings... these will be very affordable.
•• Extruded aluminum design with a machined profile
•• Secure front and rear attachment with castings that are adhesive bonded
•• Designed for quick snow evacuation and to prevent ice build-up
•• Outer support tube is integrated along the full length of the running board extrusion
•• Removable and serviceable running board assembly
•• Stronger than formed sheet metal boards
PRICING is not released till after the dealer meeting.
They can be ordered with your snow check and will be available through your dealer early fall. I have a feeling there will be a lot of demand for these... so if you want them... Order them sooner rather than later.
The Lock and Ride bag
I'm a HUGE fan of the OGIO stuff in the first place... This one looks to be a solid offering from Polaris to me... easy to take on and off which allows you to pack it up in the house or defrost it after a long day of riding. The base of the pack is heat sealed plastic...much like their luggage... so that a "sloppy" tunnel does not soak everything in the bag.
There are some other must haves coming up as well that you will see rolling out this week too
You really need to lookup Madsigntist there in Ut, he is making some awesome inserts that are very economical with no cutting. If I would have had these available, I would have never cut my stock boards.
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1) I ride with 1 group of guys that ride very high boost turbo's. They love to race up the trails and across the flats here in Utah and Wyoming. They are all SW members. So, ah, ya them and the many others just like them. Another 4 or five that I know personally but don't ride with regularly from back home in Idaho.
2) I took a 3 hour Avy course this fall. The instructor taught that your back is the best place for one but if not there then the sled is a better option that not having 1. Maybe he was full of $hit????
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AK, having two is even better yet, but if you only have one shovel, it should be on your back. Any avy instructor will back me on this. One example : you watch an avy, burial situation happen. You run into the debris field with your beacon and quickly locate a burial victim. Oh, oh, my shovel is on my sled one hundred yards away. When seconds count, this error could cost someone their life. I want to know that all of my riding partners have their shovels on their person at all times. My life may depend on it.
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but exactly where did your instructor say is "THE BEST PLACE FOR ONE" ???
Need I say more ??????
What warranty do you really have on your tunnel? You think If you bend a tunnel your dealer or Polaris will warranty it? It's about like having your a-arms warrantied if they bend.
Good luck with that from any manufacture.
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Good luck with that from any manufacture.
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Nope it looks like we basically agree. On your back is best but if you can't or won't put one on your back then putting one on your sled still has value.
And to snowriders point have one each place is even better.
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You just don't get it. Your instructor already told you the best place for your shovel is on your back. I've already given one example as to why. If that doesn't matter to you, you are definitely the type of person I never want to ride with. If you can afford a sled to ride in mountainous terrain, then you can afford a pack that can carry your shovel. Good shovels weigh less than a couple pounds. Quit making excuses and do the right thing !
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Arcteryx, sorry if I came across as an azz in my last post, but I'm a little passionate about this. Packs that carry shovels are available to every rider out there, so I believe there are no excuses for not having a shovel on your person at all times when riding in avalanche terrain.
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