New Belt drive fail
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Hitler? Seriously?
You give yourself the most hated name in the free world then get butt hurt about it when someone questions your choice? You're a dummy. Oops maybe you would prefer that in a p.m.?
You give yourself the most hated name in the free world then get butt hurt about it when someone questions your choice? You're a dummy. Oops maybe you would prefer that in a p.m.?
This thread is so off topic it's hilarious.
Their is no dirt or rock debris around the sled or coming out the tunnel
I've seen some pretty mean dirt runs thrown down up big hills in the preseason causing no damage on a chain drive.
Comparing it to a Harley is just wrong. Two totally different beasts. A Harley's back tire never losses contact with the road.
Looseing the track so it ratchets is just hilarious.
We will have to see some more real world testing
Their is no dirt or rock debris around the sled or coming out the tunnel
I've seen some pretty mean dirt runs thrown down up big hills in the preseason causing no damage on a chain drive.
Comparing it to a Harley is just wrong. Two totally different beasts. A Harley's back tire never losses contact with the road.
Looseing the track so it ratchets is just hilarious.
We will have to see some more real world testing
Thank you ! If you want to compare it to a harley lift one let the tire hit 75 mph and drop it see what happens.
Or move the brake to the front pulley and see what happens .
totally different !
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IdahoPowderHound
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This thread serves no purpose but you trying to cause drama on this forum, and believe me there is enough of that already. And it should be no surprise that your choice of user name "Hitler" is going to be criticized. Would be no different if i was to change my user name to Osama Bin Laden and post pictures of a ski-doo with a blown clutch belt and state, "this is what we can expect from the new Skidoo"...Then act surprised when people get upset.... I was one of 5 people to run the Polaris Demo tour last year. We had 5 2013's on the tour last year and logged close to a thousand miles on them. We never once had a single belt cog break loose on a belt between 5 sleds in one of the lowest snow years ever and with people riding them hard nearly everyday, 4 times a day, for 2 months. It is no surprise to see one belt that has lost coggs.... although Polairs designed this belt to do exactly that, in the case your track hooks up under full load on an obsticle something has to give. Coggs will break but the belt wont! even with all the coggs broke the tension remains the same meaning you have full braking power and be able to drive the sled. So what happens when this happens to a chain case?..... you lose all braking power and the sled is dead where it sits.
I disagree, You take a full load track ie, track speed spinning at 50 mph plus with snow friction then drop into a blow hole and stick the track hard to dirt you WILL break a chain or tear teeth off a gear. Done it, seen it done and will post pics of gears missing teeth if need be. But I am sure alot of guys can attest to broken chains as well. They may have broke going down a trail at a later time but rest assured the damage was done during hard use abuse as described above.
EDIT, I would tend to agree with idapwderhound as well. I would rather blow a belt than break gears or lodge a chain into a case. Seems like a better "DESIGNED" breaking point.
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Maybe he didn't give it to himself? Maybe it's a family name? regardless, how is this relevent to the post? I for one don't read any of you Jokers names. I really don't care. I'm hear to learn, not to laugh at funny names or pick fun at them.
I think the pictures was interesting and it will make me consider packing a spare belt just in case... maybe.
Nothing is perfect but IMO Polaris has built a better mouse trap. Time will tell if I am right.
I don't like this poop slinging.
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snowmobiler
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designing a belt to strip the cogs off before burning a drive belt dont make any sense to me.
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You don't make sense to 99% of us. He didn't say it was designed to lose cogs, he said cogs will break but the belt won't. His point was that you could still motor on.
And having full operation with no cogs?
Don't think so, maybe free reving on a stand but underload no.
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paulharris
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I was talking to one of the polaris engineers at the seattle (puyallup) snow show about this 2 weeks ago. I asked specifically about this belt drive and he told me that the belt absolutely is engineered to shear teeth under a heavy shock load. He said sled should be rideable with a few sheared teeth down the trail and back to the truck. obviously if you feel something give you might want to let off the throttle so you don't chew off more teeth.
I suspect that this particular sled took a heavy shock to to this.
I suspect that this particular sled took a heavy shock to to this.
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knifedge
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http://c3powersports.com/content/c3-syncrodrive-ski-doo-rev
--You may notice how the belt has more contact surface with the top gear as well as having a manual adjuster. A bigger gear should have similar amount of surface contact, though not as much wrap around.
--You may notice how the belt has more contact surface with the top gear as well as having a manual adjuster. A bigger gear should have similar amount of surface contact, though not as much wrap around.
I think that should be to 99.9% of us!! I don't think there is even 1% of the people that care one bit about what he say's!! All talk and no show!!!
This is what Polaris should have done.
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IdahoPowderHound
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And having full operation with no cogs?
Guys lets not read into my post this much. So "full" braking power may not be 100% correct, use your head. i was trying to make a point. You retain the "majority" of your braking power and will be able to somewhat drive the sled out of where you would be otherwise stranded if you had a blown out chaincase in this matter. Dont read into it thinking that the first rock or stump you hit you will eff your drive belt up. Like stated above we had 5 machines with close to 1000 miles on them with not one belt issue... having said that one of our demo tour stops was in the Big Horn Mountains at Bear Lodge, we were there for a week and logged about 200 miles on '13's there. If you have ever been there you know its the rockiest damn place on earth.
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...and I thought that title was reservered for Obama.
Ha!!! I couldn't resist. Sorry. I'll sit back on the bench and you let you guys finish your game.
I recall issues with the earlier chaincases/chains in the '70's....especially as power levels and traction grew. I'm sure there will be a few issues with anything new or different, that's how things are learned and improved upon.
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snowmobiler
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i climb straight up alot.so hearing about a weak link in the drive train seems abbynormal.but maybe a chain would break before the cogs do.
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