NASCAR Haters dont open this thread

[XC700116]

Ditto!
If it was true racing, they would allow the best engines to be run, no matter there HP, as long as it meets specs. But nooooo....

Ah What exactly does that mean. The teams are running the best engines that meat the specs. just different specs than Kart or IRL or NHRA.

 

[Flakey]

 

[Kevco]

I saw Kasey all dressed up in his Bud gear at the store yesterday that was wierd. I dont mind the COT. I am a race fan. I like to watch the races in the race. If you want some good rubbing keep a eye on Stewart & Rubberhead.

 

[JSCC]

Ah What exactly does that mean. The teams are running the best engines that meat the specs. just different specs than Kart or IRL or NHRA.

Only the Chevrolet teams are running there best engines that meet specs. Both Ford and Dodge have different engines that meet specs but produce more power. They are not allowed to run these engines.
Nascar cannot have two teams running away with the races because they produce more power. It's kept constant, like the COT.

 

[Motley Doo]

Only the Chevrolet teams are running there best engines that meet specs. Both Ford and Dodge have different engines that meet specs but produce more power. They are not allowed to run these engines.
Nascar cannot have two teams running away with the races because they produce more power. It's kept constant, like the COT.

So what are these ford and mopar engines that make more horsepower than the chevy's?

 

[Sledsniper]

Why dont they just call it I-ROC racing?
"COT" next they will all be running the same motor ,the only diff will be the paint.
"Stock Car" racing in its pure form ment they ran production based cars.
I KNOW IT HASN'T BEEN LIKE THAT FOR YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!
My point is I would like to see it influince the car the manufacturers to build a hot 2 door like it used to.
I gess if having an opinon makes me a "TOOL" I can live with that.

 

[JSCC]

So what are these ford and mopar engines that make more horsepower than the chevy's?

Well, I guess I should have been more specific, since Dodge uses a 340 block, and Ford uses there 351, and since both are bored and stroked to the same specs, as is Chevrolet's. The difference is made in the heads, and valve train.
Dodge has the Hemi, as was mentioned earlier in this post. Specs stay the same, but design parameters changed....Not fair.
Ford has a head designed similar to the old Cleveland 4v heads, but better. It is not allowed as well, atleast I have read.
Most of the engines made are very similar. Most of the power gained or lost is in the Carburetor. The Holley 4150 has 1 9/16 venturis. Restrictor plates reduce that to 1 3/8". Chevrolet's head design is far superior within these parameters, hence there domination in restrictor plate races.
If the other two were allowed to run there designs, Chevrolet may still dominate restrictor plate, but that is about all.

 

[Motley Doo]

Well, I guess I should have been more specific, since Dodge uses a 340 block, and Ford uses there 351, and since both are bored and stroked to the same specs, as is Chevrolet's. The difference is made in the heads, and valve train.
Dodge has the Hemi, as was mentioned earlier in this post. Specs stay the same, but design parameters changed....Not fair.
Ford has a head designed similar to the old Cleveland 4v heads, but better. It is not allowed as well, atleast I have read.
Most of the engines made are very similar. Most of the power gained or lost is in the Carburetor. The Holley 4150 has 1 9/16 venturis. Restrictor plates reduce that to 1 3/8". Chevrolet's head design is far superior within these parameters, hence there domination in restrictor plate races.
If the other two were allowed to run there designs, Chevrolet may still dominate restrictor plate, but that is about all.

Exactly, if dodge was allowed to run there hemi head, and ford was allowed to run there cleveland heads, then shouldn't chevy be allowed to run there BBC with the splayed valves, or even the LS based heads with the really tall and narrow intake port, and raised exhaust port? I don't necessarily see the advantages in hp, I mean, lets face it, the good old days of the rat motors stomping the small blocks is over, and the aftermarket as well as race team R&D have brought along THE best flowing heads ever created, where I could see an advantage is say the HEMI, they are more efficient, require less fuel, therefore, tire only pit stops. Also, there is darn near nothing shared between the production engines to a nascar engine! They aren't even hardly bored and stroked the same! Bigger isn't allways better, remember the 302 vs 350 sbc? Were talking about engines that turn 8-9000 rpm for 500 miles! Were talking about 6 bolt main caps and main journals the size of big block cadillacs! IMO, the engine R&D is soooooo good that there is no way an engine could make the difference in a race, that is if it holds together. Just the fact that those motors hold together, an old pushrod based motor at 9000 rpm is amazing!

 

[anchorman]

I've been a Hendrick fan for quite a while. I also already have my Vegas tickets and rv parking pass. My bud and I are taking our sons this year. As for drivers, I'm not a Smoke fan, but I respect that he has not allowed Helton and the others to take his personality away. I also LOVE to watch shrub race. He's a bit of a goober, but he hangs it way out and puts on a show like nobody else. I wish Rick would have kept him and sent Casey to JGR. (No offense Mears, I just like rooting for Kyle more).

 

[JSCC]

Exactly, if dodge was allowed to run there hemi head, and ford was allowed to run there cleveland heads, then shouldn't chevy be allowed to run there BBC with the splayed valves, or even the LS based heads with the really tall and narrow intake port, and raised exhaust port? I don't necessarily see the advantages in hp, I mean, lets face it, the good old days of the rat motors stomping the small blocks is over, and the aftermarket as well as race team R&D have brought along THE best flowing heads ever created, where I could see an advantage is say the HEMI, they are more efficient, require less fuel, therefore, tire only pit stops. Also, there is darn near nothing shared between the production engines to a nascar engine! They aren't even hardly bored and stroked the same! Bigger isn't allways better, remember the 302 vs 350 sbc? Were talking about engines that turn 8-9000 rpm for 500 miles! Were talking about 6 bolt main caps and main journals the size of big block cadillacs! IMO, the engine R&D is soooooo good that there is no way an engine could make the difference in a race, that is if it holds together. Just the fact that those motors hold together, an old pushrod based motor at 9000 rpm is amazing!

Good argument, I have nothing.......lol.

 

[Pimp Daddy]

I'm keepin my fingers crossed that the resurgence of the pony cars brings about a return to trans-am type racing. Showroom cars, race prepped and saftied. Tell me that wouldn't put nascar out of business. Challengers, mustangs and camaros all on the track runnin wheel to wheel. Not all roundy-round racin but throw a right in there too. True road racing with real stock cars. No more carburetors but the actual fuel injection that the street cars use and have used since the 80's. I know if it happens I'll be there watchin.

 

[Kevco]

A-man my brudda! I wish I was going with ya, Im a charter member in team summer sucks...Work. Freak is down in Orlando now trying to scalp tickets. Ive been plowing snow.....................again.

 

[anchorman]

Kev, Work? I was hoping to avoid that for another month, but the orders are starting to pile up (and so were the bills), so it looks like I'm back to the grindstone too. I still think there will be a spring weekend where you can school me again though!

I guess the reports were true that Stewart threw (and landed) a punch at ol' Kurty in the NASCAR hauler. Bring on the games and let the season begin!!!!!!!

 

[Kevco]

For sure on the ride!! This season is going to be awsome! COT will get dialed in. Rubberhead will piss off smoke dogs and cats sleeping togather.