Looking to upgrade for next year off my M7 to an M1000, So my Question is are they as trouble free as my 7 has been as long as the clutches are aligned properly and I add a couple of engine mounts to stop it from blowing belts? It will be left stock except a can to save some lbs. Is there some years that are better than others as I will be buying used, and I figure I might as well start the search early. Thanks guys.
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i run an 08 and i have neve been happier than this weekend in 4 feet of fresh powder, it ran half throttle while my boosted yamaha relatives needed boost
the whole time.
the rails are heavier but they dont bend and the reverse is mechanical but
you never see the few pounds it adds ...no blown belts and no mechanical
problems so far
i went with a mesh hood ,y pipe,can,risers, simmons gen1,s and a set of koso.s....dont need much more than that for a great overall machine that
climbs well and handles excellent
dont overlook the m8s....they are great too
i run an 08 and i have neve been happier than this weekend in 4 feet of fresh powder, it ran half throttle while my boosted yamaha relatives needed boost
the whole time.
the rails are heavier but they dont bend and the reverse is mechanical but
you never see the few pounds it adds ...no blown belts and no mechanical
problems so far
i went with a mesh hood ,y pipe,can,risers, simmons gen1,s and a set of koso.s....dont need much more than that for a great overall machine that
climbs well and handles excellent
dont overlook the m8s....they are great too
No the stock m7 works and doesn't have the power, the m1000 needs extra motor mounts and will still need them replaced far before the m7 would. More power means more maintenance. Other than that they are just as good stock to stock. But If you leave it stock I would rather have a 2011 m8. If you mod a m1000 you have to know what you are getting into, if you do then no problem.
I have heard the 2011 m8's rock, but I am so happy with my 09 1000....I can't imagine a sled with more power. SLP Ypipe, pipe and can with a fuel card...putting out close to 200 hp ! I say stay with the torque that the 1000 offers, go 09 or newer, electronic reverse and better suspension...hold on tight !
Thanks guys, I am currently riding a stock 05 m7 that I have clutched perfectly as far as I care and have a speedwerx can on it, I am only going to upgrade a couple years and keep the m7 for a spare (girlfriend) and I take my 7 anywhere the m8 go that I ride with but I am looking for a little more and dont want to only upgrade to an m8 because I feel that my M7 is on par with them (maybe not a 2011 though) but like I said I am not in the market for a new or year old sled. So is there any particular year to stay away from as far as the M1000 go?
I bought a very well set up 07 M1k with 800 miles on it last in the fall of 09 for 5500 after putting almost 7k miles on my 06 M7. It rides like a very powerful M7 with a pile of snow on the hood. The weight is not an issue, it rips, I couldnt be happier. I love keeping up with brand new e-tecs on a $5500 sled. Durability has been awesome.
If you are looking to spend 5-6k you can get a great 07 or 08, and while it may not be as sweet as Wyoboys 09 it will still kick *** over your M7.
If you are looking to spend 5-6k you can get a great 07 or 08, and while it may not be as sweet as Wyoboys 09 it will still kick *** over your M7.
Don't get a 07-08, get a 09 or newer. The 2010-11 m8 will near run with a 09 m1000 though, but a few mods on the m1000 will make it wip a m8
id disagree with wyo
i run an 08 and wouldnt want some of the 09 components
look for the best deal and the lowest mileage sled...
i run an 08 and wouldnt want some of the 09 components
look for the best deal and the lowest mileage sled...
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Ride_The_Rockies
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Who would want a sled that's 20#'s lighter, PC track, better rear bumper and electronic reverse?
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snowmobiler
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if its a money thing.07s are good too.all years have the same engine.
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Dano702
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I kind of agree. The 09 does have a few " Issues" , but the 20 lbs is hard to argue with . The 09 needs dogbones in the a arms if you like tree bashing like me.
There is a set of idlers in the back of the skid that dont have a shaft all the way across . It can bend a rail if you hit a rock on one side . I just removed mine when i put on the scratchers.
And the drive bearing issue that we all know about . But the bottom line is , the 09 + chassis will destroy an 07-08 in every way. I switch back and forth during the day and you can feel that 20 + lbs Wyo is talking about.
Get an 09 or newer and fix the "Issues" ,the thumper is a tractor you will love it.
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You don't have a clue., Thats one statement that makes absolutely no sense to me, maybe you want to explain, maybe the way you said it isn't right? If that is what you meant.
What 09 components are worse than 08. I have abused my sled harder than anyone else I know and it has help up great. If something fails from hitting something thats not AC fault, its called a wreck.
07 is 31lbs heavier and the 08 is 22lbs heavier than the 09, The newer track and tunnel design is way better, (my piped 07 that flat ripped couldn't pull like my 09 stock, thats 195hp vs 162hp) There is far less rotating mass also, I would rather have a DD with a bearing you can be replace for $15 bucks than a DD that will eventually explode and cost hundreds to fix. The 09 has a better fuel map, etc... I can go on. Pretty much I could beat a stock 08 m1000 with a stock 09 m8, and obliterate it with a 2010-11 m8. I also never saw a 08 that ran like I thought it should, would rather have my old 07 over the 08, but it just doesn't stack up like the 09, but thats just my experience. A really well setup & piped 09 will nearly run with low boost m8's (wont beat it) and if a TM8 isn't setup right the well tuned m1000 will beat it. The 08 wouldn't stand a chance. I'll put money where my mouth is.
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And you dont get the point. The guy that started this thread clearly said he is not into a new or year old sled, so clearly $$ are an issue. There is no doubt in my mind that a well set up 07 is about the best sled that you can get for around 5k.
You always seem to forget that its 90% rider and 10% sled. As you always talk about one SLED beating another you must spend a lot of time riding in a straight line in wide open spaces. A great rider on an 07 will, as you put it, BEAT, a good rider on an 09 all day any day.
What point, he wants a m1000 and I'm steering him in the right direction.
A 09 is more than 2 years old now, you can find them pretty cheap if you look, there has been no mention of how much he wants to spend either, so don't tell me I missed the point. You can find well setup 07's with lots of upgrades, but usually they have quite a few miles, The m1000 has problems with miles, You can bet in 2000 miles you will replace something, like I said there is a price for power. So you would rather he spent 5000 on a well setup 07 but then has down time and problems within the next 1000 miles. Not the way I look at things. I would rather buck up and buy a brand new 09 for $8000 that will already beat the well setup 07 and comes with a warranty. But until he gives a money figure there is now point, only opinions.
I have a m1000 for the power, being a 200+lbs rider, if I wanted reliability and good power I would run a piped ported 09 M8, or turbo (turbo is a money thing) You could get the 09 m8 and do the rest later or find one that is already done, they work flawless with less tuning and less maintenance.
If you want a argument on rider ability, this is how it works, when I talk about what a sled can do it means I have put it to the test in technical hill-climbing and side-hilling, I may not be the best rider but definitely in the top percent. So I am comparing sleds, not what you can make one do vs what I can make one do.
Either way, you missed the point there, we are comparing sleds not rider ability so get back to topic.
looking for a clue....
wyo is that stock seat on your modded 09 sled
my08 1000 is now 27 lbs heavier than my gf`s stock 06 m7 and it didnt cost alot
as for the new cats, some guys in here were complaining of bent rails as they made them so light , they may have sacrificed durability
steering posts were another issue
some newer doos were bending tunnels ---less weight isnt always good
havent had those with mine --would prefer the electronic reverse but mechanical works fine
either way, most guys try to lighten their sleds so if you start with a good 07
or a newer 09 who gives a sh.t still boils down to best deal wins
and fyi --i grew up in fernie bc riding sleds at 8 yrs old and fixing them at 12
i do have clue ---- we all have a clue and sometimes unfortunately a different opinion too
wyo is that stock seat on your modded 09 sled
my08 1000 is now 27 lbs heavier than my gf`s stock 06 m7 and it didnt cost alot
as for the new cats, some guys in here were complaining of bent rails as they made them so light , they may have sacrificed durability
steering posts were another issue
some newer doos were bending tunnels ---less weight isnt always good
havent had those with mine --would prefer the electronic reverse but mechanical works fine
either way, most guys try to lighten their sleds so if you start with a good 07
or a newer 09 who gives a sh.t still boils down to best deal wins
and fyi --i grew up in fernie bc riding sleds at 8 yrs old and fixing them at 12
i do have clue ---- we all have a clue and sometimes unfortunately a different opinion too
I've owned each of the 1000's up to 09 (and a couple M8's in there too), and there's ZERO comparison without a bunch of mods.
If you're just going to add a can, the 09 is head & shoulders above the 07 & 08.
IF you want a stock sled, save the extra few bucks you'll need for an 09. chassis, DD (the bearing is a VERY simple fix, and you no longer have mech reverse) track and motor are all noticeably better.
To put it simply, you would need to spend the difference in cost on an 08 or 07 (unless you got a SCREAMING deal) on mods to make it run with an 09 & OP said he wants a stock sled.
I wouldn't recommend a 10 or 11, you get next to nothing for the money imo.
If you're willing to do more serious mods, obviously for the money you CAN make it run with an 09, but that wasn't the question.
If you're just going to add a can, the 09 is head & shoulders above the 07 & 08.
IF you want a stock sled, save the extra few bucks you'll need for an 09. chassis, DD (the bearing is a VERY simple fix, and you no longer have mech reverse) track and motor are all noticeably better.
To put it simply, you would need to spend the difference in cost on an 08 or 07 (unless you got a SCREAMING deal) on mods to make it run with an 09 & OP said he wants a stock sled.
I wouldn't recommend a 10 or 11, you get next to nothing for the money imo.
If you're willing to do more serious mods, obviously for the money you CAN make it run with an 09, but that wasn't the question.
It is a stock seat and yet it still eats modded 07-08 m1000 with boss seats.
My dad was a dealer when I was 8, so maybe someone should give us both cookies.
Sounds to me like you are trying to justify your 08, so maybe you have a clue, or just an opinion. Have you ever spent time on a 09. Sounds like all your info is hearsay. Not experience. Like I said the 09 has held up to things I never would have expected it to, so durability is not an issue, let alone you could strengthen it for less money than upgrading to a older sled. Its not just about weight, For $1500 my sled was down to 450lbs and pushing a 200hp rating.
Bottom line the 09 is a better sled, if you have the money go for it or what ever, If you don't have the money get what you can. But the m7 is going to be the most reliable and always has been. I would pay at least $2000 more for a stock 09 over a stock 07-08. I'm not completely against the older sleds, a friend bought a 07 2300 miles with 09 rear tunnel/bumper slp pipe, egts, nicely setup sled. and seems to be a good deal, Still not going to touch the 09 with the same mods. He paid $4500. not a bad deal for the money. But risky in my opinion. I would still take a stock 09 M8 over it.
My dad was a dealer when I was 8, so maybe someone should give us both cookies.
Sounds to me like you are trying to justify your 08, so maybe you have a clue, or just an opinion. Have you ever spent time on a 09. Sounds like all your info is hearsay. Not experience. Like I said the 09 has held up to things I never would have expected it to, so durability is not an issue, let alone you could strengthen it for less money than upgrading to a older sled. Its not just about weight, For $1500 my sled was down to 450lbs and pushing a 200hp rating.
Bottom line the 09 is a better sled, if you have the money go for it or what ever, If you don't have the money get what you can. But the m7 is going to be the most reliable and always has been. I would pay at least $2000 more for a stock 09 over a stock 07-08. I'm not completely against the older sleds, a friend bought a 07 2300 miles with 09 rear tunnel/bumper slp pipe, egts, nicely setup sled. and seems to be a good deal, Still not going to touch the 09 with the same mods. He paid $4500. not a bad deal for the money. But risky in my opinion. I would still take a stock 09 M8 over it.
Wow this has turned out great, more than what I was expecting, Money is an issue and usually always is, for most of us anyways. I guess I will set my sights for an 09 but deffinetly wont turn down a good deal on an 07 or 08 if the right one comes along. Does anyone happen to know what the HP was in each of these years?
Thanks guys this has been great!!
Thanks guys this has been great!!
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snowmobiler
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same engine all years.07s have 09 computor updates.162 i think
