Looks like he is letting off to keep the nose down, he has a little too much transfer. I find it interesting how people set their sleds up. Lucky he had excess power to offset the pour chassis setup.
M1000 piped vs. M8 Turbo
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or he's trying to keep this arms from pulling out of the sockets.
I have an 08 M1000 slp pipe can, boondocker box y pipe boss seat. My buddy has an 08 M8 cpc turbo kit. A couple of weeks ago we went out and at 6lbs of boost pump gas there was no comparison that m8 made my sled look like it was standing still. zero camparison!!! wait till he turns it up to 12lbs. NOW IM IN THE MARKET FOR ONE
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SilverGriz
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LMAO...That was very steep. I don't you could hold it wide open and still keep things going in the right direction.
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w4cstriker
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Do they make m1000 turbos? And do they have alot of problems with them? ty steven
whoa, i was just looking through some of the pics posted in the same gallery as that video and i noticed the shot of the revelstoke rye whiskey. can you still get that stuff somewhere? when they stopped selling it in bc i was ordering it by the case from the liquor store. it was coming up from the states. last time i tried to make an order they told me they couldn't get it any more. friggin best whiskey ever!
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Yes it came from Kalispell MT
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Yes it came from Kalispell MT
Sorry about the hijack
Got back from tunning 09 pump gas bd turbo
Went for first ride on 09bd m8 pump gas turbo thinking it was going to be a tunning day. Well The only thing I adjusted was the boost controler. Thing ran awesome and went better than expected at 5-6lb of boost.I have not seen a m1000 with a pipe that will be close at least in the conditions we had today. soft some what heavy snow. We had 2 piped m1000 1 stock 09 le m1000 and a few dragons and a bunch of xp800s. Only sled that were comparable were 2 cpc pump gas m8s and a couple yamaha turbos, don't know what boost the yamaha's were running.Anyways I will do some fine tunning next ride, alittle blubbery putting around but cleaned up about a second after hitting the flipper, maybe just slight lag that can be clutched out, barely enough to complain about.
Went for first ride on 09bd m8 pump gas turbo thinking it was going to be a tunning day. Well The only thing I adjusted was the boost controler. Thing ran awesome and went better than expected at 5-6lb of boost.I have not seen a m1000 with a pipe that will be close at least in the conditions we had today. soft some what heavy snow. We had 2 piped m1000 1 stock 09 le m1000 and a few dragons and a bunch of xp800s. Only sled that were comparable were 2 cpc pump gas m8s and a couple yamaha turbos, don't know what boost the yamaha's were running.Anyways I will do some fine tunning next ride, alittle blubbery putting around but cleaned up about a second after hitting the flipper, maybe just slight lag that can be clutched out, barely enough to complain about.
^^^ Its an M8T and it sounds like it doesnt run all that well . Just imagine what a perfectly tunned one could do . It sounds like he cant hold it wide open .
the sled rolled all the way down that hill, ran upside down for 5 minutes, pretty much smoked the turb from no oil. He was in and out of the throttle trying to make it out and not grenade the bearing. it is a m8 on 14 pounds of boost, boondockers kit. you can hear it gurgel some at the bootom to about halfway up, he had to drop down that hill so im sure it was tuned for up top, notice how it cleans out when he comes around the big rock? johns sled is one of the best running m8 turbos ive seen, but his turbo did bark at the end of the day, good thing refurbed turbos are half price
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m8matt
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EEEK what the hell? Where did you get your info from? Were you talking to Dave? I know you didn't talk to me!
Just for the record the M8 Turbo was mine and by no means did the 1000 linderman sled beat me by any amount! I am positive you can talk to Dave and he would say the exact same thing. We are neck and neck on a drag race. And last I checked these are mountain sleds not drag sleds!
If I were you I wouldn't talk about something you didn't experience first hand. Just a thought.
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Just to clear the air I told EEEk FACTOR that Matt's pump gas twisted turbo couldn't beat my Brent Linderman built m1k. I never said or implyed that I beat him just that he couldn't beat me. Must of been a misunderstanding as Matts sled has run perfect right out of the box. Nothing better than not having to tune. If you are thinking of turboing your M series Shain Stanger and Twisted Turbo is the way to go.I also heard a rumer that RalphS Arctic Cat in Calgary maybe distributing Twisted Turbos in the very near future.I'll post if rumer is true.
Even though my sled is a rocket I think come summertime I,ll be heading down to see Shain about turboing what will be a M12.
Cheers,
Dave
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isnt a turbo a replacement for displacement
Basically a piped and lightened up m1000 that is tuned and clutched correctly should be a turn key sled plus has less things that can go to crap. Not sure about you guys but I tumble my sleds down a hill a few times a year to say the least.
I just picked up a 09 m1000 sno pro LE for $6800, speedwerx pipe/y pipe, bmp tunnel dump, egts, mtn fit hood, boss. Im doing dbx intake, 55/65 gearing, port track, bdx exhaust valve delete, remove anything that is not needed, and do titanium on any rotating mass.
One thing a 1000 has that a turbo doesn’t is low end power and torque. Dont forget jaws makes twins for these things to... Maybe one out of 5 turbo sleds ive seen run even run good and that’s all wide open. The ones that run great are untouchable, the porly tuned ones a stock m8 could out run.
At the end of the day it just depends on how deep your pockets are and how good you are with a BD box.
Will
I just picked up a 09 m1000 sno pro LE for $6800, speedwerx pipe/y pipe, bmp tunnel dump, egts, mtn fit hood, boss. Im doing dbx intake, 55/65 gearing, port track, bdx exhaust valve delete, remove anything that is not needed, and do titanium on any rotating mass.
One thing a 1000 has that a turbo doesn’t is low end power and torque. Dont forget jaws makes twins for these things to... Maybe one out of 5 turbo sleds ive seen run even run good and that’s all wide open. The ones that run great are untouchable, the porly tuned ones a stock m8 could out run.
At the end of the day it just depends on how deep your pockets are and how good you are with a BD box.
Will
I've had my share of mod m1000's , the TM8's today flat kick the pis$ out of them from top to bottom and still take the abuse or more with more reliability, longer belt life etc.... As for NA sleds I would take the m1000 way before any other but when compared to T sleds, no chance.
If it where me, since the sled sound sweet and you will love it, I would put the stock gears back in it and get some MDS weights and let her rip. In your area a good mod m1000 is a blast. If the suspesion is stock you at very least need to get a revalve for the rear shocks in the skid, (I did all 4 shocks for $250 at GSR) that will make it ride twice as good and go farther up hill. Or just upgrade the skid, also the geo mod is a good idea as well
If it where me, since the sled sound sweet and you will love it, I would put the stock gears back in it and get some MDS weights and let her rip. In your area a good mod m1000 is a blast. If the suspesion is stock you at very least need to get a revalve for the rear shocks in the skid, (I did all 4 shocks for $250 at GSR) that will make it ride twice as good and go farther up hill. Or just upgrade the skid, also the geo mod is a good idea as well
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Racing across a little pond is chit flatlanders do.................
I would find it very hard to believe a N/A M1000 will do what a TM8 will at elevation.
A little lesson in math:
A stock 2010 M8 was 160 ish horse at sea level. We will use my elevation.
160 hp - (3% per 1K) 30% = 112 Hp. Add turbo to get back to 160 hp + lets just say add 35 hp. There are kits and tunes running more but this is reasonable and honest on PG. So its back to the 195 ish range.
A built, piped M1000, running 200 Hp at sea level ( A REAL........ stretch, SLP gets 192 HP for a piped M1K)
200 hp - (3% per 1K) 30% = 140 Hp. Hell lets give it 20 more horse becuse you know how to tune it and the stars are in alighnment. Your still right where the stock M8 started with a 40 Hp gap.
Yes there is no replacement for displacement but there is also no replacement for forced induction. If you want to have the arguement at sea level then much of this changes.
I'd take my M8PGT over a piped M10 any day of the century, I'll put it that way. I've had very little trouble with my BD turbo kit and I have almost 3,000 miles on it right now. Runs awesome too.
You _WILL_ have crank issues with your M10 at some point. There are guys with twice as many boost miles as me who are still on their stock 800 bottom ends .... I don't think I know anyone who hasn't had crank trouble after a few thousand miles with their M10 ....
There is a reason nobody is making bigger than an 800cc 2 stroke anymore.
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You can tell when its summer, a thread from 2008 is brought back to life. lol
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ACMtnCat
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It's 4 years later and there are STILL guys that claim their 860 will out climb a TM8!
One thing you guys forget is a sled is 40% model of sled, 20% setup, and 40% rider. Dont quote my numbers on that... I had a 99 Sno Pro with 700 D&D predator kit (efi) with BB pipe and a stock MC 144. I ran circles around my buddies modded M1000. For some reason my SP just flat out ripped, not sure why... He relies on HP and tuning, hes not the best at tuning... I rely on a correctly setup sled (clutching, gearing, fuel, etc.) and a little thing called skill.
Now I bought a m1000 modded some what, after seeing what i could do on it. Im just scared to ride a turbo... I might want one...
Will
Now I bought a m1000 modded some what, after seeing what i could do on it. Im just scared to ride a turbo... I might want one...
Will
I'm talking about taking out those facts, So same rider that can push a sled to the limits, tunes everything to its optimum, Clutch, suspension, fuel etc.. you can't beat boost
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