So I bought a new inseason 163 with slp pipe and can. Motor is awesome, pulls hard no complaints. The ride however is horrible in my opinion. The first day in it the sled rode me! The other day was on a bumped up trail into the good stuff but the sled about beat the hell out of me. Felt like it had pogo sticks for shocks. I'm actually starting to regret giving up my 14 pro. I'm hoping a lot of it is just set up and getting use to a new sled. Any set up addvice would be appreciated.
Love the motor hate the ride?
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Have carls rebuild your shocks and add the raptor triple rate springs. Good thread about carls upgrade with contact info and some pricing.
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Im glad you like the new motor. On the ride quality, may I suggest/comment on a few things? Every sled (Cat, Doo, Po and Yam) I've owned was not "dialed in" for "me" off the showroom floor. Ive had to check out the owners manual and start with their recommendations. From there I made small changes to spring tension, weight transfer, shock dampening etc that made huge differences. Im not bashing you at all, but its your first few rides and you didn't mention any starting points or adjustments. This is also effected by your weight. Im not suggesting you lay off the Crispy Creams like me, Im asking how much you weight with your gear on, and I mean everything like backpacks (full), gear bags on sled, shovel, tool kits, gas (gallons) can rack etc. These all make big differences. Lastly, snow conditions. I rode Upper Michigan all year and just got back from two weeks in Wolf Creek CO. The trails there were hard and my sled rode totally different on those trails forcing me to make some "minor" changes and I was good. However I love the way it rides in the powder at home so I take note of my current settings so I can go back to them. My riding buddy's also weren't happy with their "ride" there so I suggested small changes, one at a time rather than cranking up all the shocks at once for example. One was surprised how one little change totally transformed his ride. Good luck on your set up, don't give up or get frustrated, you'll soon have a dialed in sled that you love.
Side note: Stock shocks & springs can and do work for "many" of us once dialed in and it doesn't cost anything. Heavy Duty springs are cheap if you're hauling a bigger load. If you have a larger budget, the aftermarket is full of shocks, springs etc to fit your need. I like to start with the basics first which means cheap. Keep in mind if you do go with aftermarket products you'll still have to make the adjustments I described above. That said, Ive used Carl's custom valving on my shocks for years and loved them but I waited until my stockers needed rebuilding or back when I was racing.
Side note: Stock shocks & springs can and do work for "many" of us once dialed in and it doesn't cost anything. Heavy Duty springs are cheap if you're hauling a bigger load. If you have a larger budget, the aftermarket is full of shocks, springs etc to fit your need. I like to start with the basics first which means cheap. Keep in mind if you do go with aftermarket products you'll still have to make the adjustments I described above. That said, Ive used Carl's custom valving on my shocks for years and loved them but I waited until my stockers needed rebuilding or back when I was racing.
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Go through your suspension and handlebars to setup everything to your preferences/stock recommendations...
I bought a used '16 a couple weeks ago. I asked the guy if he changed anything in the suspension before I picked it up and he said no. My 1st ride on it was a handful. I got tossed around plenty. The next morning before I went out, I reset everything up to how it was or should have been from the factory and moved the bars into a comfortable position... It was like a whole new machine. I felt right at home again. The guy I bought it from had skidoos as well so I assume he tried to set it up similar to them, or the dealer he bought it from had no idea what was going on when they uncrated it... either way a few threads on the springs and position of the bars translated into huge handling differences. I'd start there before you send your shocks out to get revalved or spend the money of aftermarket suspension goodies...
I bought a used '16 a couple weeks ago. I asked the guy if he changed anything in the suspension before I picked it up and he said no. My 1st ride on it was a handful. I got tossed around plenty. The next morning before I went out, I reset everything up to how it was or should have been from the factory and moved the bars into a comfortable position... It was like a whole new machine. I felt right at home again. The guy I bought it from had skidoos as well so I assume he tried to set it up similar to them, or the dealer he bought it from had no idea what was going on when they uncrated it... either way a few threads on the springs and position of the bars translated into huge handling differences. I'd start there before you send your shocks out to get revalved or spend the money of aftermarket suspension goodies...
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snobyrd
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Do a search on utube on zbros, they have a very informative 1 hr vid on shox, they even have a pro on display for referance, it is very good info, to the point,i installed my raptors yesterday and feel confident how to set them up properly and get the most out of them. Good luck
Carl's revalve! I have their revalve WEs with a 230 lb. rear track shock spring. I also have the KMOD 37" A Arm kit. Best riding sled 8 have ever had on the trail or in the fluff. Incredible! Setup is everything. It rides much better than the T3s that I rode last year.
What's your rider weight?
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Uncle Bob
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you have to call a spade a spade, polaris really missed it this year on an otherwise really good package, im 240 plus gear, i ride pretty hard and unfortunately usually ride rough trails to get to my riding areas. This is my first year on polaris and it has become painfully obvious this company sets up it machines for much smaller people then myself. there is no way to make the sled compliant with the stock equipment On cat at least i knew if i got a snopro model it would handle me. Maybe Big person springs and valving could be a nice sno check option or include more aggresive suspension in the pro package the way it should be like cat and doo do
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Jaynelson
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Other than the spring on the rear track shock, all others should have enough adjustment for you. Polaris makes a heavier rts spring...cheap and easy to install. That's going to be your cheapest fix. Anything much over 210 lbs...you need to buy suspension parts for ideal performance - you'll find that on any dirt bike, several street bikes, sleds, etc....and it would be the same in the base model, or the top end model. Cat gets around this with the air shocks...which are a different animal that some like, and some don't. Doo you will need the bigger rear torsion springs as well.
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Jaynelson
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Look in the manual and it lists rider weights for rear track spring settings...adjust that first. Need to have the weight off the rear of the sled to accurately measure spring length, of course. What's your weight?
I am 235 probly 250 with gear. I set it up like my pro but am quickly realizing that it's not the same. I'm trying to make do with stock for the rest of the season and get a revalve and springs prior to next season. Thanks for all the replies
That's a bunch of BS.
Why should you have to spend more on
revalving your shocks or even change
springs
Oooooo !!!! They run so much better after setup.
So why doesn't polaris do at the factory.
I guess that should be up to your good dealers
to set it up for your weight and not have
to cough up even more money. Polaris should have
this figured this out by now.
All it should need is minor adjustment .
Why should you have to spend more on
revalving your shocks or even change
springs
Oooooo !!!! They run so much better after setup.
So why doesn't polaris do at the factory.
I guess that should be up to your good dealers
to set it up for your weight and not have
to cough up even more money. Polaris should have
this figured this out by now.
All it should need is minor adjustment .
The front feels lik it is going fall off in the bumps, I think it is way too stiff. The rear feels to stiff as well but seems to perform better with more speed. I have the front track shock fairly soft and rear track shock adjusted for sag, so I stiffened it quite a bit. I left the fronts at dealer setting.
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ak
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Read your owners manual adjust according to the book, small Changes make a noticeable difference.
More than just reading and setting the suspension ... take the time to understand the function and effect the different components have.
If you are looking for a better ride experience on the trail into the good stuff... high end shocks will give you that... Lots to choose from.
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If you are looking for a better ride experience on the trail into the good stuff... high end shocks will give you that... Lots to choose from.
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Polaris has to build the sled to fit everyone. Its the same as dirt bikes. When i raced it was 7k for a bike and then another $1000 in suspension. If you wanted the suspension to actually work. What workd for you isnt going to be optimal for someone 30 lbs lighter or heavier
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Seems wierd or doesn't seem possible. I love mine. I know it is possible because my buddy and I both have the same ProRMK, bought the same time identical models. Mine tips real easy and is a joy to throw around. His feels like I am fighting it all the time. Neither one of us can figure out why mine handles so much better. We even set all the springs to the exact same setting.
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