Lakota Indians just seceded from the US?

[the dude]

i grew up on a rez in wyo, and all i have to say is wtf are these crazy inuts thinking..... i wish i was an indian so i could get a check every month, a full ride scholarship to college and a free place to live for the rest of my life and be able to get drunk for days because indians have only been drinking alcohol for 200 years and they dont produce an enzym in thier liver to break down alcohol like us white folks what is really stupid is the more kids they have the more money they get so guess what? even more worthless indians running amock on the rez... i hope they go through with thier retarded plan, and see how easy they had it, the US government rufuses to support them again, they go out get a job and become useful members of society.....now dont get me wrong, i have a few indian friends that are great people and they have taken advantage of thier endless opportunites and are livin REALLY good.. sorry to get off the subject... rant over

 

[ruffryder]

we built a country in a little over 200 years...150 years is more than enough time to change "their" ways. All I see is 'them' being lazy and blaming 'US' for 'their' problems. It's 'their' fault not MINE!

Built a country yes, but what changed, location, maybe specifics about job type, but our way of living was exported from Europe and other countries we just didn't create it on our own, I don't buy it.

 

[Meatman]

ya your right...heirarchy to democracy isn't a change dork

 

[ruffryder]

ACTUALLY if you look at the change in the total culture of the US in the last 40 years you will see that change can happen FAST ! ! !

yes technological change can happen fast but that is different that the way a society/civilization works. Our society, way of living/community is still really the same. The whole get a job, earn some money, spend most of you time working to afford the basic necessities in life has been around for a whole lot longer than 40 years.

 

[ruffryder]

ya your right...heirarchy to democracy isn't a change dork

ha ha ha ha, so your say a blacksmith in the heirarchy had a much different life than one in democracy. Doubt it, just his money went from the man to the men.

Dork, hahaha, man brings back memories of grade school. Good one.

 

[summitone]

i grew up on a rez in wyo, and all i have to say is wtf are these crazy inuts thinking..... i wish i was an indian so i could get a check every month, a full ride scholarship to college and a free place to live for the rest of my life and be able to get drunk for days because indians have only been drinking alcohol for 200 years and they dont produce an enzym in thier liver to break down alcohol like us white folks what is really stupid is the more kids they have the more money they get so guess what? even more worthless indians running amock on the rez... i hope they go through with thier retarded plan, and see how easy they had it, the US government rufuses to support them again, they go out get a job and become useful members of society.....now dont get me wrong, i have a few indian friends that are great people and they have taken advantage of thier endless opportunites and are livin REALLY good.. sorry to get off the subject... rant over

Please, no sugarcoating.

 

[ruffryder]

i grew up on a rez in wyo, and all i have to say is wtf are these crazy inuts thinking..... i wish i was an indian so i could get a check every month, a full ride scholarship to college and a free place to live for the rest of my life and be able to get drunk for days because indians have only been drinking alcohol for 200 years and they dont produce an enzym in thier liver to break down alcohol like us white folks what is really stupid is the more kids they have the more money they get so guess what? even more worthless indians running amock on the rez... i hope they go through with thier retarded plan, and see how easy they had it, the US government rufuses to support them again, they go out get a job and become useful members of society.....now dont get me wrong, i have a few indian friends that are great people and they have taken advantage of thier endless opportunites and are livin REALLY good.. sorry to get off the subject... rant over

maybe they would rather be happy? and that is not what makes them happy.

 

[Sturgis Sledder]

yes technological change can happen fast but that is different that the way a society/civilization works. Our society, way of living/community is still really the same. The whole get a job, earn some money, spend most of you time working to afford the basic necessities in life has been around for a whole lot longer than 40 years.

Actually the theory of get a job. . . has changed, look at the inner cities where unemployment by choice runs rampant. You have people like Bill Cosby being activists for the "society" to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. You have a culture where it is not only acceptable to break the law but encouraged, i.e. ILLEGAL aliens. oh my open your eyes and look around.

 

[Meatman]

im saying what we built surpasses what we came from. thats the change...its called improvement. And how can you say that civilization hasn't changed in the last 50 years? society has gone through major changes between the 60's and today.

 

[Fosgate]

This just reminds me of that episode from Family Guy "Petoria".

 

[ruffryder]

oh my open your eyes and look around.

"I see dumb people...
...they're everywhere...
...they walk around like everyone else...
...they don't even know that they're dumb..

 

[Meatman]

i see a democrat

 

[Sturgis Sledder]

"I see dumb people...
...they're everywhere...
...they walk around like everyone else...
...they don't even know that they're dumb..

Let me guess, you JUST thought this up

 

[ruffryder]

Let me guess, you JUST thought this up

Guess I should have put my source? Really cant get anything past you can I.

copy and paste

 

[phatty]

Does this mean they wont finish that crazy horse monument?

 

[Scott]

UPDATE to this story......

 

[bigdarrin]

I can't believe how much hate spews forth on this forum at the mere mention of Native Americans (Injuns, Indians, whatever you choose to call them), or Hispanics (Mexicans, Illegals, whatever you want to call them).

Maybe I'm wrong here, but most of you defend our "taking" of their land, but freak out when the environmental movement wants to "take" your land, but only for 1 portion of the year. Yeah, I know it's not the same thing, but I still find it ironic how easy it is to sit in the position of majority and cast aspersions on those who have been opressed, suppressed, impressed, depressed, or simply pressed.

Carry on...at least until such time as this thread degrades to the point that I have to delete it.

 

[WFO or go home]

I say let them do it. And don't come crawling back when the corruption, crime and poverty become unbearable.

bigdarrin, the only think I will say is that NONE of us had a thing to do with their treatment in the past. Yes it was a bunch of crap, but we cannot change the past, we can only live in the present.

Same thing with the slavery issue. Bill Cosby has taken a lot of heat for telling the african-americans to shape up and stop dwelling on the past and show them what your really made of.

 

[PJ-Hunter]

i grew up on a rez in wyo, and all i have to say is wtf are these crazy inuts thinking..... i wish i was an indian so i could get a check every month, a full ride scholarship to college and a free place to live for the rest of my life and be able to get drunk for days because indians have only been drinking alcohol for 200 years and they dont produce an enzym in thier liver to break down alcohol like us white folks what is really stupid is the more kids they have the more money they get so guess what? even more worthless indians running amock on the rez... i hope they go through with thier retarded plan, and see how easy they had it, the US government rufuses to support them again, they go out get a job and become useful members of society.....now dont get me wrong, i have a few indian friends that are great people and they have taken advantage of thier endless opportunites and are livin REALLY good.. sorry to get off the subject... rant over

Shouldn't this apply to all the wetbacks that come sneaking over too? I'd rather my tax dollars go to an Indian than to a fuggin wetback!

 

[Sturgis Sledder]

I can't believe how much hate spews forth on this forum at the mere mention of Native Americans (Injuns, Indians, whatever you choose to call them), or Hispanics (Mexicans, Illegals, whatever you want to call them).

Maybe I'm wrong here, but most of you defend our "taking" of their land, but freak out when the environmental movement wants to "take" your land, but only for 1 portion of the year. Yeah, I know it's not the same thing, but I still find it ironic how easy it is to sit in the position of majority and cast aspersions on those who have been opressed, suppresses, impressed, depressed, or simply pressed.

Carry on...at least until such time as this thread degrades to the point that I have to delete it.

At least in my case it's not hate but the fact that minorities expect the majority to cowtow to their whims and wants. I go back to the Theodore Roosevelt comments. "We should insist that if the immigrant who comes here does in good faith become an American and assimilates himself to us he shall be treated on an exact equality with every one else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birth-place or origin.

But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American. If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn't doing his part as an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. . . We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding-house; and we have room for but one soul loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people."

In the case of illegals it is just THAT ILLEGALS with indians, native americans (FYI native is defined as born there so technically most of us are native american) it is the very fact that the land was yours (even though you took it from someone else) it is now not. Sorry for "keepin' it real".