Kmod or timbersled?

[Super Sled]

The stock Holz skid will transfer weight with the best of them, and as well as the Mt Tamer. But every skid will feel a tad different and IMHO it boils down to personal opinion on which you will prefer.

Where I've seen most guys use aftermarket skids is big turbo/ hp applications where a skid that transfers less is wanted, to keep the skis down. The TS Mt Tamer is actually a fantastic turbo skid because by adding those spacers in the rear arm you can drastically minimize any transfer from occurring, even in a skid that transfers as good as the Mt Tamer.

IMHO, the Pro has a great skid. My old Apex MTX, on the other hand, the Mt Tamer really helped that beast, as the stock skid did not transfer weight well enough and was heavy. The Mt Tamer was awesome, and I know the Mt Tamer is really good, made that sled rideable (but nothing like the Pro). It'd be interesting to try the Mt Tamer on the Pro.


But I've ridden enough sleds to know the Holz skid is really good. It'd be interesting to know what discern able advantages the Mt Tamer would have over the Holz. The Holz transfers so well it'd be hard for any skid to beat it in that department.

 

[Seabass152]

The stock Holz skid will transfer weight with the best of them, and as well as the Mt Tamer. But every skid will feel a tad different and IMHO it boils down to personal opinion on which you will prefer.

Where I've seen most guys use aftermarket skids is big turbo/ hp applications where a skid that transfers less is wanted, to keep the skis down. The TS Mt Tamer is actually a fantastic turbo skid because by adding those spacers in the rear arm you can drastically minimize any transfer from occurring, even in a skid that transfers as good as the Mt Tamer.

IMHO, the Pro has a great skid. My old Apex MTX, on the other hand, the My Tamer really helped that beast.

I would also agree the Pro skid is a good unit, especially compared the previous design. My biggest issue was lack of dampening no matter how stiff I went. Held back in some trail sections because I worried about buckling the tunnel.
Having said that, I never got a chance to see how good the stock skid could be with different shocks but the control when blitzing whoops or during a climb with Toms skid was a bigger improvement than I expected. Made motoing around in the bumps so much more fun. I have a another pro assault with a stock suspension that would be cool to borrow some floats from Tom and have a comparison. We'll see.

 

[turbonium]

Timbersled

I had the rear kit on my 11.
Ran the z broz and fox shox. Both bottomed very hard.
Cracked my tunnel.
If you run Timbersled make sure you run tunnel reinforcements.
I think they sell them now . Surprise.

 

[mountainhorse]

Some people are having tunnel cracking issues on stock suspension equipped Pro-RMK's as well... depends on lots of factors... I've also watched some very talented riders beat the snot out of their stockers for 2 seasons and no cracking...again... lots of factors involved.

T-sled and K-mod ....Both are great skids... no doubt.

Cut and paste(s) from some previous posts:

I don't make it a secret that I'm a fan of the Timbersled suspension...I've had the Timbersled Mt Tamer in my last 3 sleds. And I'll have a new one in my sled this season.

I've installed quite a few for others as well.

For me it has given me great ride quality and control... Especially in deep snow and while climbing.

In the last few years I have had strength issues because of some medical problems. With the Mtn. Tamer in the sled was able to conserve energy and keep the sled under control which gave me the ability to enjoy riding with my friends longer.

You can "muscle" any sled to get it to do what you want.. but you will last longer if you are not fighting the machine. The Mt. Tamer did just that for me.

I've been on some T-sled skids from the past that were not adjusted or installed correctly and WOW... did they perform poorly... Once adjusted or installed correctly... the owners were amazed with the difference with the same skid.

I could get my skid to bottom on my sled.. but a bottoming a suspension occasionally is normal... just like in my truck, the RZR or MX bike. Constant bottoming of a suspension generally is an indication that it is not setup well for your style of riding or your particular sled.


Other things that set it apart from an "upgraded stockers" are the hard anodized shafts and bushings on the oversized cross shafts where the stock skid runs bare aluminum in bare steel with grease... The smoothness of the bushings is THAT much better.. you could actually run them without grease and it would work more smoothly than the stocker.

The Timbersled is more rigid than the stock skid as well as being about 4-5 lbs ligher than the stock skid on the same scale when equipped with the EVOL Float shocks. (that is a good thing!)

On the turbo sleds (not mine) that I've installed Mt. Tamers on... I was able to get ski lift under control and still maintain great ride quality and the ability to absorb impacts while climbing. Made the machine much more fun to ride.

I've found the Mt. Tamer to give me everything that I want in a skid...Control, comfort and quality of construction that is tolerant of abuse and hard use.

I had the pleasure of hanging out for the Puyallup and SLC shows with Allen from Timbersled.... great family and great work environment that provides full time employment for 10 people in his well organized shop. The customer service when I've called was outstanding and they were able to help me throughout the years.

Whichever you choose you will enjoy the upgrade... just take the time to learn how to "dial it in".

 

[turboless terry]

Are you losing weight because of the floats or is the timber skid lighter? I am not a float fan.

 

[richracer1]

Are you losing weight because of the floats or is the timber skid lighter? I am not a float fan.

On the Pro, yes due to the Floats. I'm also with you on not liking the Floats, not because they don't work, I hate having to check the pressures all the time. I'm currently saving up for the X0/X1 shocks for my Mtn. Tamer that I have on my 09 RMK. It's currently sporting the Float2s on it.

 

[Super Sled]

Are you losing weight because of the floats or is the timber skid lighter? I am not a float fan.

The TS Mt Tamer skid was much lighter than my MTX skid on my old Yammi. While I don't have exact weights, I'd gather the stock Holz skid and and the Mt Tamer is similar. Then of course if you opt for Floats in either you can drop more weight. I used floats in my Mt Tamer and they worked great btw, they adjust so easily and work well, I'd use them again no question.

It'd be interesting to try out a Mt Tamer mounted in a Pro Chasis. It's a great skid and the Pro is the best chassis/ platform out there. But then again on the other hand the Holz skid has been the best transferring skid I've ever used and performs so well I'm just not sure the Mt Tamer would be better than the Holz, where a person can typically count on getting way better performance out of a Mt Tamer skid than a stock skid. That being said, the Mt Tamer is the only after market skid id consider.

 

[roughrider99]

timbersled is the bang for the buck out of any skid

 

[B C]

No time on the new TS skid, but the Raptor/KMOD setup will be the first mod I do on any new sled from here on out. It's that good, and totally adjustable.

 

[gmustangt]

Timbersled or Kmod

mountain tamer with exits
k mod turn key with raptors

Looking for pro and cons of the above skids...
Wanting an all around skid... For the 3 ft whoops on the trail ride up, climbing, jumping/drops, technical tree riding...

 

[sledheadd]

Different sled but I Never tried my tamer with exits but I had one with fox floats sold it and bought a kmod with raptors and would never go back.

 

[Dartos]

Different sled but I Never tried my tamer with exits but I had one with fox floats sold it and bought a kmod with raptors and would never go back.

Why?

Better ride in the rough?

Gets up on the powder better?

Adjustments are easier?

Love the the way Raptor rolls off the tongue?

 

[sledheadd]

Why?

Better ride in the rough?
Yes kmod s smoother .IMHO

Gets up on the powder better?
Not much difference here

Adjustments are easier?
More adjustment on raptors then floats.
Love the the way Raptor rolls off the tongue?

It was more of a durability issue with the mt tamer and it would not keep the skis planted on the steep stuff like the kmod does.

 

[mountainhorse]

What year Timbersled are you talking about... what sled?

What year of K-Mod and when did you change out? Same sled with no other changes like track etc.

Both skids are high quality... It will difficult to find people that have tested both in identical situation.

Both have users that are very loyal to their choice.






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[Dartos]

I see Timbersled has a 25% off sale going on right now.

 

[Andreas83]

I have never tried the KMOD, but i dont think you can go wrong with any of them.
I have a mtn tamer, and i absolutely love it. I sacrificed a bit weigh and got the exit x1 shocks instead of Fox shocks .
The coupling adjustment on it makes quick changes to the skid setup easy.
If you are riding in tight spots and want less ski pressure it takes seconds to turn the knob out and have less ski pressure.
When climbing, just give it some more coupling and have the skis planted all the time.