Kmod or timbersled?
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I have the 2010 version of the Mtn Tamer on my '09 700 RMK. SOOOOOOOO much better than the crappy torsion spring system that came stock. Now, when I buy another sled, I'm going with the KMOD. IMO, both are awesome skids, but due KMOD being a 15-20 min drive, is the reason I'm going with it.
Also, both have been outstanding in respect to customer service. I dealt with Kevin at KMOD earlier this month when buying a set of Raptor clicker ski shocks and he is truly a great guy to deal with.
Also, both have been outstanding in respect to customer service. I dealt with Kevin at KMOD earlier this month when buying a set of Raptor clicker ski shocks and he is truly a great guy to deal with.
Here is a review from my experience of running the all new Timbersled Mtn. Tamer that was released this season. Also, their 15% off sale continues through the end of this month. Great time to buy!
The 2012 version Mtn. Tamer is the best rear suspension I have ever ridden! I am running one on my 2012 Polaris 800 Pro RMK 155. I have used and experimented with the Mtn. Tamer for about half of the season with stock power, and the other half with a 200HP turbo setup. My shock choice are an EXIT X0 front and X1 rear. This has made for the ultimate backcountry combination! Under stock power, the biggest benefit of the Mtn. Tamer for me was that it helped the sled get on top of the snow much better. A stock engine does not generate a lot of track speed at the altitude I ride (9,000-12,000 feet). With my Timbersled setup, I was able to compensate for lack of track speed with very good weight transfer. Where I have seen other sleds trench out and have to either turn around or get stuck, I was able to continue making my line. While tree riding and making my way through creek bottoms, I am constantly on and off of the throttle. The last thing I need is for my sled to dig a hole when I accelerate. By allowing my track to get on the snow, I am able to maintain momentum and control with the confidence to take my sled farther. Not to mention, the Mtn. Tamer is lighter than stock, and that is always beneficial for technical mountain riding. As for riding with the big power of a turbo, the Mtn. Tamer helps me control all of that power. While riding a sled with a turbo, everything happens much faster. In order to maintain control and ride a powerful sled to its full potential, I need a suspension that is up to the challenge as well. The Timbersled is built with maximum structural strength through design. The front and rear arms are reinforced where the most stress is applied. The hard anodized cross shafts allow all of the rotating and sliding parts to move extremely smooth and without restriction while keeping the movements tight. There is no slop, which minimizes wear and maximizes efficiency. All of these contributing factors combine resulting in a great suspension for a turbo powered sled. My favorite feature of the new Mtn. Tamer is the coupling adjustment knob. Literally within a matter of 30 seconds, I can make my sled effortlessly lift the skis or set it to maintain maximum control and everything in between. I love being able to dial my suspension in 100% for every aspect of my riding. For general boondocking (tree riding, banging creek bottoms and drainages, and carving) I run the adjuster all the way threaded out. In this setting, I can lift my skis with ease and with a little technique, keep them in the air. This is great for crossing obstacle such as down timber or creek openings as well as making quick directional changes. When I am riding steep terrain and need to keep my skis closer to the snow to maintain control, I turn the adjuster in. The further in the knob is threaded, the more control my sled has with the front end. On those days that I have to ride a rough section of trail, I have found that with the adjuster threaded out, I achieve the very best quality ride. I can either pound the bumps straight on or lift the front end from one to the next, all while maintaining control. This is also the setting that I use when I am jumping. I have really been testing the durability and action of this skid on a lot of big cliff drops this season. The bigger and more technical the drop, the more confident I have become. I know when I am spotting a big jump or drop, one thing I don't have to worry about is if my suspension will handle the landing. In addition to the Mtn. Tamer, I have added tunnel reinforcement plates from Timbersled for maximum strength. Thank you Timbersled for enhancing my snowmobiling experience and helping me to have the confidence to do anything I want on my sled!
The 2012 version Mtn. Tamer is the best rear suspension I have ever ridden! I am running one on my 2012 Polaris 800 Pro RMK 155. I have used and experimented with the Mtn. Tamer for about half of the season with stock power, and the other half with a 200HP turbo setup. My shock choice are an EXIT X0 front and X1 rear. This has made for the ultimate backcountry combination! Under stock power, the biggest benefit of the Mtn. Tamer for me was that it helped the sled get on top of the snow much better. A stock engine does not generate a lot of track speed at the altitude I ride (9,000-12,000 feet). With my Timbersled setup, I was able to compensate for lack of track speed with very good weight transfer. Where I have seen other sleds trench out and have to either turn around or get stuck, I was able to continue making my line. While tree riding and making my way through creek bottoms, I am constantly on and off of the throttle. The last thing I need is for my sled to dig a hole when I accelerate. By allowing my track to get on the snow, I am able to maintain momentum and control with the confidence to take my sled farther. Not to mention, the Mtn. Tamer is lighter than stock, and that is always beneficial for technical mountain riding. As for riding with the big power of a turbo, the Mtn. Tamer helps me control all of that power. While riding a sled with a turbo, everything happens much faster. In order to maintain control and ride a powerful sled to its full potential, I need a suspension that is up to the challenge as well. The Timbersled is built with maximum structural strength through design. The front and rear arms are reinforced where the most stress is applied. The hard anodized cross shafts allow all of the rotating and sliding parts to move extremely smooth and without restriction while keeping the movements tight. There is no slop, which minimizes wear and maximizes efficiency. All of these contributing factors combine resulting in a great suspension for a turbo powered sled. My favorite feature of the new Mtn. Tamer is the coupling adjustment knob. Literally within a matter of 30 seconds, I can make my sled effortlessly lift the skis or set it to maintain maximum control and everything in between. I love being able to dial my suspension in 100% for every aspect of my riding. For general boondocking (tree riding, banging creek bottoms and drainages, and carving) I run the adjuster all the way threaded out. In this setting, I can lift my skis with ease and with a little technique, keep them in the air. This is great for crossing obstacle such as down timber or creek openings as well as making quick directional changes. When I am riding steep terrain and need to keep my skis closer to the snow to maintain control, I turn the adjuster in. The further in the knob is threaded, the more control my sled has with the front end. On those days that I have to ride a rough section of trail, I have found that with the adjuster threaded out, I achieve the very best quality ride. I can either pound the bumps straight on or lift the front end from one to the next, all while maintaining control. This is also the setting that I use when I am jumping. I have really been testing the durability and action of this skid on a lot of big cliff drops this season. The bigger and more technical the drop, the more confident I have become. I know when I am spotting a big jump or drop, one thing I don't have to worry about is if my suspension will handle the landing. In addition to the Mtn. Tamer, I have added tunnel reinforcement plates from Timbersled for maximum strength. Thank you Timbersled for enhancing my snowmobiling experience and helping me to have the confidence to do anything I want on my sled!
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Well after reading what Colorado-Matt has to say about the Timbersled rear skid, it almost sounds like he sells them or works for them, but after riding my Nytro this year with the new Timbersled i have to to agree with him 100%. It completely changed the Nytro for the better in every area talked about above. I have been riding Yamaha's for 29 years now with no intention of ever riding anything else but after seeing and hearing about the new Pro's I snowchecked a new 800. I can't wait to ride it stock for a while and then change out the skid to a new Timbersled skid. Excellent Quality and lost 35+ lbs.
Well after reading what Colorado-Matt has to say about the Timbersled rear skid, it almost sounds like he sells them or works for them, but after riding my Nytro this year with the new Timbersled i have to to agree with him 100%. It completely changed the Nytro for the better in every area talked about above. I have been riding Yamaha's for 29 years now with no intention of ever riding anything else but after seeing and hearing about the new Pro's I snowchecked a new 800. I can't wait to ride it stock for a while and then change out the skid to a new Timbersled skid. Excellent Quality and lost 35+ lbs.
Nice write up Matt.
I saw the display unit Timbersled had at the Jackson Hillclimb. I was impressed with the coupling and ease of coupling adjustment.
I have never looked at the Kmod. How is the coupling adjustment accomplished on it?
Does anyone have some insight on what advantages one skid has over the other?
I saw the display unit Timbersled had at the Jackson Hillclimb. I was impressed with the coupling and ease of coupling adjustment.
I have never looked at the Kmod. How is the coupling adjustment accomplished on it?
Does anyone have some insight on what advantages one skid has over the other?
sorry i can't help ya..i can't compare the two..i have a timbersled and i figure if i am already eating lobster i ain;t gonna have shrimp for dessert..
Timbersled hands down. Adjust-ability. the coupling option can get you out of a tight spot Several times this year, in a tight creek bed, i was able to couple down for hill climb control and get out of the drainage no problem. Then i would sit up on the bench and watch all the other pros, cats with stock skids, wheelie over and bounce around out of control. The skid flat out works. It also holds up to huge jumps in case you were wondering 
You can get some good replies from guys here but also understand that some are sponsored or receive some sort of discount to rep the product. I'm sure they wouldn't ride the product if it wasn't to their liking though.
I too have wondered about the two. The only way to tell is to ride your setup with both skids, but that isn't very likely to happen. I think you are going to do well with either. They both sound like great companies with the owners working closely with the buyer. Both are at the SLC snow show and are great to pick their minds on suspension.
I too have wondered about the two. The only way to tell is to ride your setup with both skids, but that isn't very likely to happen. I think you are going to do well with either. They both sound like great companies with the owners working closely with the buyer. Both are at the SLC snow show and are great to pick their minds on suspension.
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akrevrider
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Mountain Tamer Suspension
I have been very happy with my Timbersled suspension for the past two riding seasons and with Timbersled’s outstanding product support. I have conducted numerous purchases from TS and all of their products have been high quality and backed by outstanding support. The suspension design has flat out worked for me in the deep snow and has held up well despite me abusing it hard during the first season.
During a run across a glacier moraine I hit a small boulder tweaking my tunnel, bending the front Mountain Tamer arm, and bending one of the Ice Age rails. After making a repair list and placing the order for replacement parts the box arrived a week later and included two new Ice Age rails. The rail design had changed and Allen sent the second rail at cost so the suspension would stay tuned by being evenly matched.
Bottom line: I will be riding the Timbersled suspension again this season and the new 2012 Mtn Tamer suspension under a new Pro next season.
I have been very happy with my Timbersled suspension for the past two riding seasons and with Timbersled’s outstanding product support. I have conducted numerous purchases from TS and all of their products have been high quality and backed by outstanding support. The suspension design has flat out worked for me in the deep snow and has held up well despite me abusing it hard during the first season.
During a run across a glacier moraine I hit a small boulder tweaking my tunnel, bending the front Mountain Tamer arm, and bending one of the Ice Age rails. After making a repair list and placing the order for replacement parts the box arrived a week later and included two new Ice Age rails. The rail design had changed and Allen sent the second rail at cost so the suspension would stay tuned by being evenly matched.
Bottom line: I will be riding the Timbersled suspension again this season and the new 2012 Mtn Tamer suspension under a new Pro next season.
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The pro skid is set up so well, I wouldn't change it.
I had a Timbersled skid on my Yamaha, and while it was a huge improvement over the horrible Yamaha skid, the Pro is basically at the same level out of the box.
I also was never impressed with the Float shocks, they save weight, but I don't think they ride as well as a coil spring.
Unless you have some really extreme requirements, it is dumb to spend $2000 on a skid for the pro. Use the money for better things.
I had a Timbersled skid on my Yamaha, and while it was a huge improvement over the horrible Yamaha skid, the Pro is basically at the same level out of the box.
I also was never impressed with the Float shocks, they save weight, but I don't think they ride as well as a coil spring.
Unless you have some really extreme requirements, it is dumb to spend $2000 on a skid for the pro. Use the money for better things.
Not sure it's "dumb" to spend $$ on ANY sled parts, is it?? 
But I understand your sentiment... The skid on my Assault is hands down the best skid I've ever parked my fat azz over. That being said, I'm not an "expert" rider, nor do I ride a turbo.
A small percentage will want a new skid because the need the latest and greatest... a slightly larger percentage will want/need it because they can ACTUALLY outride the stocker, and the rest of us will be sitting at the bottom of the hill jealous that our wives/girlfriends/bank accounts won't allow for the purchase
But I understand your sentiment... The skid on my Assault is hands down the best skid I've ever parked my fat azz over. That being said, I'm not an "expert" rider, nor do I ride a turbo.
A small percentage will want a new skid because the need the latest and greatest... a slightly larger percentage will want/need it because they can ACTUALLY outride the stocker, and the rest of us will be sitting at the bottom of the hill jealous that our wives/girlfriends/bank accounts won't allow for the purchase
I've been around and on both... KMOD for the win. And I'm not schponschured by KMod in any way...
That's great ...... Can you expound on why?
I agree in stock form, My timbersled shocks were horrible and suggested setup way off, After adding a EVOL- R shock and altering the shim stack it rocks. So stock/stock I agree K Mod has a better setup. However timbersled is completely adjustable and just take some time and can mimic any skid. I,m not to sure how adjustable the K Mod is?
one thing for certain...when this thread is close to ending wyoboy will try and get the last word for kmod...lol..
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assault11
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Not sure it's "dumb" to spend $$ on ANY sled parts, is it??
But I understand your sentiment... The skid on my Assault is hands down the best skid I've ever parked my fat azz over. That being said, I'm not an "expert" rider, nor do I ride a turbo.
A small percentage will want a new skid because the need the latest and greatest... a slightly larger percentage will want/need it because they can ACTUALLY outride the stocker, and the rest of us will be sitting at the bottom of the hill jealous that our wives/girlfriends/bank accounts won't allow for the purchase
I'm doing it because the stock skid is just not enough for me. I think there is great room for improvement because I can set it up how I want. The stock skid is set up for a very wide range of terain/riders/riding style. I want to build a purpose built sled for my riding style and the terain/ snow I ride in. I do mostly tree riding and we're fortunate to have a riding area that we ride waist deep powder almost every trip from November to the middle of April so I want something that's going to hop up on the snow as fast as possible.
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