Theres some real smart ppl out there thats for sure. But i guess they will learn there lesson the hard way for there stupidity.
Jeep on Snowmobile trail?
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ROTFLMFAO.....
Are you really that friggen stupid?
I would like to see even one 4x4 go where sleds go in the depth of winter....As much as I enjoy 4x4's they have their season, let sleds have theirs.
I think this is a great example of how forest management is a good thing. Everyone has a right to enjoy our national forests, but not at the expense of all the other users. Skiers deserve to have areas free of snowmobile tracks, snowmobilers deserve to have their groomed trails free of 4x4's, and 4x4's should have a place where they can air down and chain up and see how far they can go on a frozen snowpack. The sandbox is getting more crowded every year, we will have to learn to play together.
They were in Boise County
County Ordinance
We have a law against that. You can do anything you want, as long as you can pay the fine.
County Ordinance
We have a law against that. You can do anything you want, as long as you can pay the fine.
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Did they have a groomer sticker? If not, stf off the trails.
OH thats right it is YOUR trail only right?
Part of 4x4ing is getting stuck, some 4x4 rigs will go further then your snowmobile will
In Mud? or on rocks? LMAO
It does sound a little like the radical enviros( I'm enviro- but not radical I hope)
that want to limit the areas we can make noise and tear up the snow though.
If it's a groomed snowmobile trail they shouldn't be there in a 4X4. It irritates me when 4X4's get stuck and tear up the snow on the forest roads, but they have a right to be there- even if they are idiots and always wanna borrow my shovel.
Always seem to have little kids and old folks and insufficient clothes and equipment too. But they aren't lucky enough to have sleds and just wanna play in the snow. I used to do the same thing in fresh snow(not on trails), but learned real quick and hard about rotten snow. 4x4 season is over when the deep drifts
crust over unless you have something special- about 1 in 10,000 4x4's can play in that stuff. It does provide a lot of amusement at the parking lot seeing all the bad-*** giant trucks spinning their wheels and working so hard.
100 yards from the road!
Yes I am retarded LOL
My point was this, in Colorado the same trails that are snowmobile trails in the winter are also 4x4 trails in the summer. There is that time of year where BOTH can share the trail, obviously if a trail is groomed for snowmobiles then a 4x4 has no place there and there are likely signs that show that.
If there are no signs or the trail is for off road vehicles only, then Why not give it a go? So what if they get stuck on YOUR trail? Are you not good enough to go around in the tree's? Besides they have to learn somehow...
What I saw in this thread was snowmobilers saying 4x4ers have no place on their trail...that is what I called ignorant that is all (UNLESS the trail is designated for one or the other, then ovbiouslt they are breaking the law and shouldnt be there). Avid 4x4ers will follow all posted rules, and even non posted ones.. but the trails in CO that are NOT dedicated to snowmobilers are open to anyone who wants to go there...who are you to tell them they cannot? I know this thread is talking about a Jeep on a designated snowmobile trail... the Jeep was in the wrong for sure, but the discussion seemed to get away from this point.. trail designation.
You said you wanted to see 1 4x4 that can go further then your average snowmobile....try looking around, they are out there. If a truck is light enough and has enough floatation it can traverse deep snow just like your tracked snowmobile...no its not going to hi mark your 166 track sled, but there are plenty of trucks out there that can wheel all day long on a winter trail, even if they get stuck... just like your snowmobile
Still sound stupid to you?? this is a discussion forum, so thats what I try to do..
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Your original statement was:
It sounded like an ignorant statement, and still does.....
I agree with what you are saying.... This particular incident was on a "groomed" trail..... I agree that if it is not groomed or specifically posted for snowmobiling only, they have a right to go have fun...
I still disagree that a 4x4 will go where our sleds go.... On a trail, maybe, but saying that a 4x4 will get further than a sled, come on...... Even with big @$$ swampers or something, a 4x4 will not even be close to the same amount of flotation as a sled...
It sounded like an ignorant statement, and still does.....
I agree with what you are saying.... This particular incident was on a "groomed" trail..... I agree that if it is not groomed or specifically posted for snowmobiling only, they have a right to go have fun...
I still disagree that a 4x4 will go where our sleds go.... On a trail, maybe, but saying that a 4x4 will get further than a sled, come on...... Even with big @$$ swampers or something, a 4x4 will not even be close to the same amount of flotation as a sled...
then we agree to disagree I guess LOL
Sometimes when you I am typing something I try to get my point across without writing a book, I assume too much about whos reading it I guess and you know what happens when you assume
As far as trucks not being as capable on deep snow as a sled, maybe not up the side of a mountain, but on the trail there are trucks that can go just as far. Big enough tires aired down will give you enough contact patch and floatation/traction to keep moving no matter how deep the snow is below you. Get stuck and a winch can get you right back on top of the snow again.. check out some 4x4 rigs from alaska or iceland if you dont believe me. You do not have to have a track to go in deep snow, and that doesnt stop all of us from trying either!
Sleds get stuck so do trucks, they can both be built to go in deep snow, water, mud, hell even asphalt
So should I hate snowmobilers who take up my precious drag strip then?
That was my point, that is all... I think you get the just of it by now.
Sometimes when you I am typing something I try to get my point across without writing a book, I assume too much about whos reading it I guess and you know what happens when you assume
As far as trucks not being as capable on deep snow as a sled, maybe not up the side of a mountain, but on the trail there are trucks that can go just as far. Big enough tires aired down will give you enough contact patch and floatation/traction to keep moving no matter how deep the snow is below you. Get stuck and a winch can get you right back on top of the snow again.. check out some 4x4 rigs from alaska or iceland if you dont believe me. You do not have to have a track to go in deep snow, and that doesnt stop all of us from trying either!
Sleds get stuck so do trucks, they can both be built to go in deep snow, water, mud, hell even asphalt
So should I hate snowmobilers who take up my precious drag strip then?
That was my point, that is all... I think you get the just of it by now.
And this proves that there will ALWAYS be at least ONE on any public forum....can you say "apples and oranges?"
And this proves that there will ALWAYS be at least ONE on any public forum....can you say "apples and oranges?"
I was thinking more like "grapes and watermelons"
I'm all for shared use, and I believe a lot of fun can be had in a 4x4 in the snow. However, this trail system is very clearly marked for snowmobile use only - I can't think of another trail area that has more signage. This was blatant disregard by two young men who didn't take into account the damage they were doing. The attitude of their father during the interview was just as apathetic.
BTW - the 6B Groomer isn't available for the rest of the season...it was sent back due to the wide array of problems they've had with it this year. So that trail will stay covered in ruts.
BTW - the 6B Groomer isn't available for the rest of the season...it was sent back due to the wide array of problems they've had with it this year. So that trail will stay covered in ruts.
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