Is Obama trying to BUY the job??

[ruffryder]

Ruffy, you can choose to see it anyway you want, but by all accounts I've read, the timeline of each quote from Obama and the fact that McCain agreed to it, leaves me to believe one thing (It's all about the huge amount of money Obama is receiving from leftists groups) and nothing more. You can play his little corrupt system for all it's worth, nice try to justify backing out of earlier said statements.

So where do you see that McCain agreed to it? When he became the republican nominee and started spending money for the general election (which is what we are talking about) he was using private donations already seems if he wanted to agree with the statement that was the time to do it.

I love emotional arguments...

I find it hilarious that lefties are college students, government workers, and welfare drains on society, yet all of a sudden they are able to give tons of money? Is Obama taking food stamps? Come on....... and where do you expect him to get his money from? Rightists? Conservatives?

So lets see what you have read? Your post didn't do anything but reaffirm my position. I haven't seen anything that says to the contrary...

 

[weetee]

So where do you see that McCain agreed to it? (He was taking the steps to quailfy for public money) When he became the republican nominee and started spending money for the general election (which is what we are talking about) he was using private donations already seems if he wanted to agree with the statement that was the time to do it.
(He is not the Republican nominee until after the convention, and will use public money then)

I love emotional arguments...

I find it hilarious that lefties are college students, government workers, and welfare drains on society,(nothing funny about that) yet all of a sudden they are able to give tons of money? Is Obama taking food stamps? Come on.......(you dont think he would take food stamps?) and where do you expect him to get his money from? Rightists? Conservatives? (nope, the sierra club, nature conservency, moveon, the list of kookgroups is endless...)
So lets see what you have read? Your post didn't do anything but reaffirm my position. I haven't seen anything that says to the contrary...

Open your eyes.

 

[Wade]

Ruffy, read your own quote:

"If you are nominated for President in 2008"

He aint been nominated yet, so the clock hasn't even started, But, he's already backed out of his own words. He's an expert at "lying", I mean politics. If what you said were true, why didn't he wait until McCain declared Public/Private funding. McCain was spending money, and he hasn't even been sure of who he's running against until last weekend. Geeze. I guess we can trust Obama's word, from now on, heck we can even trust his written statements. Obama's pen is full of magically disappearing ink. The true liberal litenis test, quick someone ask him if he's going to sale pardons.

 

[Wade]

Never mind, I figured it out on my own.

Obama didn't realize he was running against the "most" liberal guy in the Republican party. No wonder he doesn't trust him.

 

[ruffryder]

Ruffy, read your own quote:

"If you are nominated for President in 2008"

He aint been nominated yet, so the clock hasn't even started,

For him it didn't, but McCain has been the nominated republican party presidential candidate for some time now.

 

[ruffryder]

Open your eyes.

So he is not the nominee yet, but he is running a general election campaign as the nominee? Seems to be splitting hairs on some technicalities. No wonder the lawyers couldn't get to an agreement, we can't even come to a consensus as to what actually is going on.

If you guys think that Obama's campaign is only getting (or mostly getting) money from greenie groups and other extreme environmental organizations.... well... I guess you republicans deserve to get beat in the election.

 

[Wade]

So, I take it McCain signed the same pledge?

McCain is not yet the nominated republican party presidential candidate. That happens at the convention. Look up your history. He could still lose.


Oh wait, Obama didn't know he was running against he Republican party, when he said that.

 

[ruffryder]

So, I take it McCain signed the same pledge?

McCain is not yet the nominated republican party presidential candidate. That happens at the convention. Look up your history. He could still lose.


Oh wait, Obama didn't know he was running against he Republican party, when he said that.

So why is he running a general election campaign then? I get the technical order of declaring someone a nominee, but it seems like he is getting ahead of the game then?

 

[weetee]

If you guys think that Obama's campaign is only getting (or mostly getting) money from greenie groups and other extreme environmental organizations.... well... I guess you republicans deserve to get beat in the election.

You're right, I'll bet he's getting money from a few confused snowesters.

 

[Wade]

O'Ruffy, your getting those oranges and apples confused. He just did the paperwork to get the federal matching fund account setup. (There is dispute about the expenditure of some private matching fund money, but that's a side show irregularity).

Obama lied. He said he was going to use the federal general election campaign funds, but then didn't. His lawyers made no attempt to come to any agreement. They purposely sabotaged any chances of an agreement, so that he could buy this election. Obama conveniently forgot to meet with McCain as promised also.

McCain has yet to lie about the federal matching general campaign funds. I think the man has some principles about honesty, I'll give him that.

 

[ruffryder]

and the rabbit hole gets deeper

media matters

times article dems suing

another times article

wow, what a fubared system

Seems McCain has to be in the public money system since got money before for it? Anyone else think this is messed up?

another
So he is going to send the checks back, then ask them to send them to a different fund?

I admit I don't know a lot about the whole funding processes and procedures, seems like a lot of loopholes and such.

Take a read and tell me what you think. It seems to me that McCain has to take the public money or else he faces criminal charges? Got to love American politics... not worth doing if you can't screw it up.

 

[H2SNOW]

just keep drinkin the koolaid boys ...

 

[Wade]

Yha, someone was doing some creative financing on the McCain team.

Looks like he decided to ask for federal funds, then things got better, the money started flowing in, so he decided he could make more with private funds. I still don't see a lie here. And, something tells me, he's looking at a $25K fine, whooo.

Lying senator versus rule skirter. I'm not worried about rules pushing, lying I hate.