I don't get it....

[03rmking]

So just about every ride I see a 2 stroke (mod or stock) coming home on a rope. I see guys literally blow up their sled every ride out, yet rebuild it multiple times. I don't get it...when you can get a turbo yamaha, gas & go for THOUSANDS of miles and absolutely dominate every 2 stroke you come across. And do it for the same ballpark cost as a 2 stroke mod.

I mean if I was going through a motor every few rides, getting 100 miles outta a belt, coming home on a rope as often as not, and making half the power as a nother sled for the same cost....I'D SWITCH. So again, I don't get it....boggles my mind.

 

[Frostbite]

I'm with you brother and I don't even have a turbo on my fourstroke! I like being able to at least compete with the two smokes with a non turboed, non supercharged, non nitrous fourstroke. I love it when they ask what brand of turbo are you running?

You should post what you wrote on the deep powder forum where the apparently clueless guy posted about how he doesn't understand people that buy fourstrokes. Hopefully someday he'll mature a bit too.

Frosty

 

[acutah]

I would tend to agree with ya bro till I saw the arse end of a Polaris towing my Apex down the trail last Saturday.

Although 4 strokes rarely break....they do. Mine luckily wasn't the motor or any fault of the Yamaha, nevertheless if it does happen be prepared to break the bank to fix it.

The other problem is we don't just buy new sleds because they are worn out. We buy because we have ants in our pants and we think we need the latest and greatest.

I say it just comes down to whether or not you can afford to boost of not. If you can, then it can't be beat. If you can't, well at the end of the day a stock YAMAHA or 2 stroke will work. At the end of the day its all fun. Sometimes its even fun to hit the hill 10 times on the 2 stroke just to make it over.

 

[AdrenalineAddict]

Here's the short and sweet of it as I see it. I don't have any interest whatsoever in a 720 lb. wet weight Yamaha that I just had to shell out $17,000 to purchase. The Nytro is interesting at a mere 550 lbs. dry and is worthy of watching but the last guy I know who turboed the Nytro style motor had it take a crap at roughly 400 miles. The destruction was complete, $4,500 to repair. The Nytro is rider forward which is a design I'm not particularly fond of. My sled is a VE UBR 900 Polaris purchased for $9,500, weighs 497 lbs. dry, has only come back on a rope once in 4 years and 7,600 miles. The chassis is perfect as far as I'm concerned and it runs fast enough to give me a thrill every ride. It costs $2,000 every other year to maintain, other than that it's gas and go. I only get stuck a couple times a season and pull it around with relative ease. I have a reliable sled I enjoy every ride that outruns or runs along side most any two smoker on the mountain. Nitrous is occasionally needed to follow the turbo crowd but not very often. I know a few who have gone in the direction of turboed Yami's and have come full circle back to two smokers.

 

[Slick]

So then shouldn't your user name be " SmallAmountofAdrenalineAddict "

 

[Rixster]

None of the guys i ride with have the 20 large to buy and then build a turbo yamaha. Besides that I am a HUGE 2 stroke fan, LOVE THE SOUND, LOVE THE SMELL, LOVE THE SIMPLICITY, LOVE TO TINKER AND TUNE THE 2 STROKE.
If you have people building and then blowing up again I think they need to work on the tuning part of there mechanics.
I am not saying that a 2 stroke is going to run with a 4 stroke turbo, but for out of the box power to weight, its hard to beat the XP 2 stroke or the M1000 2 stroke. Or the $4500 2004 king cat.

 

[Climbmax]

What are you doing lurking in the Yamaha section then?
i don't go to the other sections......could care less...no interest no desire
Just ride what you pride and be safe on the slopes
We all know boosted 4 strokes aren't for everyone.......I know a few who have gone back to the smoke side.........guess they weren't ready for the hp

CM

 

[up-high]

Look in the swap meet under Yamaha. Quite a few turbo sleds for less than 20g.
Slick... now thats funny!!

 

[sledskiing]

None of the guys i ride with have the 20 large to buy and then build a turbo yamaha. Besides that I am a HUGE 2 stroke fan, LOVE THE SOUND, LOVE THE SMELL, LOVE THE SIMPLICITY, LOVE TO TINKER AND TUNE THE 2 STROKE.
If you have people building and then blowing up again I think they need to work on the tuning part of there mechanics.
I am not saying that a 2 stroke is going to run with a 4 stroke turbo, but for out of the box power to weight, its hard to beat the XP 2 stroke or the M1000 2 stroke. Or the $4500 2004 king cat.

As a 4 stroke rider i would agree with you. Out of the box there are some great performing 2 strokes (maybe not the XP IMO haha). If you are a beginner rider you may progress faster if you are on a 2 stroke. Now the Nytro may have changed all of that but that will only tell with time. For all the big mod riders out there who live and die for riding and modding their sleds I would think a 4 stroke is better platform for an extreme transformation.

 

[snowy1]

Here's the short and sweet of it as I see it. I don't have any interest whatsoever in a 720 lb. wet weight Yamaha that I just had to shell out $17,000 to purchase. The Nytro is interesting at a mere 550 lbs. dry and is worthy of watching but the last guy I know who turboed the Nytro style motor had it take a crap at roughly 400 miles. The destruction was complete, $4,500 to repair. The Nytro is rider forward which is a design I'm not particularly fond of. My sled is a VE UBR 900 Polaris purchased for $9,500, weighs 497 lbs. dry, has only come back on a rope once in 4 years and 7,600 miles. The chassis is perfect as far as I'm concerned and it runs fast enough to give me a thrill every ride. It costs $2,000 every other year to maintain, other than that it's gas and go. I only get stuck a couple times a season and pull it around with relative ease. I have a reliable sled I enjoy every ride that outruns or runs along side most any two smoker on the mountain. Nitrous is occasionally needed to follow the turbo crowd but not very often. I know a few who have gone in the direction of turboed Yami's and have come full circle back to two smokers.

scott I know which motor you are talking about, and I believe there was deto involved causing the rod failure, need the right fuel for the compression and boost, I have ran up to 22lbs with my nytro no problems, not that I plan on running that much, but there is nothing wrong with the 3 cylinder motor, most failures are human error. and we both no even with the nitrous you can,t follow my turbo, see you on the hill.