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How to properly prepare for riding 130in of pow at Baker

Like xpensive said , FREINDS !
The kind that will help you when the sh*t is deep and if your buggy breaks they will spend the day getting you back to camp/trailhead instead of riding .
Ohh , hip waders ! 0'dark thirty in Lot 1 at Baker and tall tales are being told . Total speculation of course
Be safe & ride safe EVERYONE !
Terry
 
Sorry but laughed my a$$ of at the 6 belts....

Hopefully you guys figure out the 850's.

I remember you being a belt blower with the PC as well?

Maybe you just ride to F'n hard?
 
Have fun and be safe, or just Fu_kitall!

With proper clutching and clutches that actually work, the clutches will never get hot enough / slip enough to blow a belt, regardless of how much / how hard you ride.




But if you want to keep the lesser companies in business, keep doing what you're doing.
 
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Sorry but laughed my a$$ of at the 6 belts....

Hopefully you guys figure out the 850's.

I remember you being a belt blower with the PC as well?

Maybe you just ride to F'n hard?

My 850 has been blown up for a month already sitting at the dealer with 2,000mi on it. Belts and I don't get along on several levels. Doesn't matter what sled I ride. Those fragile rubber bands cause me severe emotional trauma lol.
 
With proper clutching and clutches that actually work, the clutches will never get hot enough / slip enough to blow a belt, regardless of how much / how hard you ride.




But if you want to keep the lesser companies in business, keep doing what you're doing.

I wish I could have an hour of time on your sled in this snow. The we could properly evaluate that statement :face-icon-small-ton
 
With proper clutching and clutches that actually work, the clutches will never get hot enough / slip enough to blow a belt, regardless of how much / how hard you ride.




But if you want to keep the lesser companies in business, keep doing what you're doing.

^^^ THIS, 100%. Yes, heavy mashed potatoes will but more load on the engine, but your belt and clutch sheaves should be cool enough where you can put your hand on it after a good rip.
 
This is what I was eluding to; by that comment, see post below

But if you want to keep the lesser companies in business, keep doing what you're doing.

What exactly do you mean by saying this?

Cat and Doo are well known for clutches that don't work very well / the Cat (Comet) imitation of the P85 is fragile and detonates (Spider Failure, typically; even the high end billet spiders) far before it should. Their newer stuff may be better, time will tell.

The Doo TRA? grips well off the line but losses grip on the belt as it shifts out (when they are actually making HP). Time will tell with Doo's newest Primary.


As a note; The factory clutching from all the manufactures leaves a lot to be desired. The modern thinking is stiffer springs heavier weights and steeper helix angles, which results in the clutches fighting each other and little of that that fight goes to actually grabbing the belt. Which results in slippage and defeats the functionality of the CVT transmission.

The CVT is far more efficient with lighter weights, softer springs and shallower helix angles! And yes with the right combination and balance, your belt will not slip (ever) regardless of the snow conditions or how hard / long you ride, and you don't need additional venting!
 
Cat and Doo are well known for clutches that don't work very well / the Cat (Comet) imitation of the P85 is fragile and detonates (Spider Failure, typically; even the high end billet spiders) far before it should. Their newer stuff may be better, time will tell.

The Doo TRA? grips well off the line but losses grip on the belt as it shifts out (when they are actually making HP). Time will tell with Doo's newest Primary.


As a note; The factory clutching from all the manufactures leaves a lot to be desired. The modern thinking is stiffer springs heavier weights and steeper helix angles, which results in the clutches fighting each other and little of that that fight goes to actually grabbing the belt. Which results in slippage and defeats the functionality of the CVT transmission.

The CVT is far more efficient with lighter weights, softer springs and shallower helix angles! And yes with the right combination and balance, your belt will not slip (ever) regardless of the snow conditions or how hard / long you ride, and you don't need additional venting![/QUOTE



When is ski doo gonna hire you to fix their problems?
 
Cat and Doo are well known for clutches that don't work very well / the Cat (Comet) imitation of the P85 is fragile and detonates (Spider Failure, typically; even the high end billet spiders) far before it should. Their newer stuff may be better, time will tell.

The Doo TRA? grips well off the line but losses grip on the belt as it shifts out (when they are actually making HP). Time will tell with Doo's newest Primary.


As a note; The factory clutching from all the manufactures leaves a lot to be desired. The modern thinking is stiffer springs heavier weights and steeper helix angles, which results in the clutches fighting each other and little of that that fight goes to actually grabbing the belt. Which results in slippage and defeats the functionality of the CVT transmission.

The CVT is far more efficient with lighter weights, softer springs and shallower helix angles! And yes with the right combination and balance, your belt will not slip (ever) regardless of the snow conditions or how hard / long you ride, and you don't need additional venting![/QUOTE



When is ski doo gonna hire you to fix their problems?

I'm currently employed, at a job I like very much. Besides I could not live back east in the flat lands with all those people! Besides I don't think that the French Candian's are very open to other opinions / ways of doing things. Additionally it would likely be a pay cut, and to have to think about and touch Doo Doo everyday would be too much. LOL
 
Everyone's an engineer��

Never blown a belt on my 2010 doo. Clean clutches every 300mi and replace rollers, pins, center cap and bushing every year. Sometimes maintaince is the easier then having the dealer work on your ****.
 
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Nice ratio

14 gallons of spare fuel....check
6 Belts.....check
12 Beers.....check
Overnight gear.....check
heckitall Pills....check

im not quite sure the ratio of 6 belts to 1 roll of TP is a smart idea.

With that many belt changes id also need a couple more pairs of Bibs along with some wipes and at least one more roll of TP. LOL

Oh yeah, be careful with those wipes in sub freezing temperatures.... Don't ask me how I know what a frozen wipe on a bare a@@ feels like.....:face-icon-small-con:face-icon-small-hap


Hope your belt issues get resolved soon. Sitting in the shop sucks with snow like this.
 
im not quite sure the ratio of 6 belts to 1 roll of TP is a smart idea.

With that many belt changes id also need a couple more pairs of Bibs along with some wipes and at least one more roll of TP. LOL

Oh yeah, be careful with those wipes in sub freezing temperatures.... Don't ask me how I know what a frozen wipe on a bare a@@ feels like.....:face-icon-small-con:face-icon-small-hap


Hope your belt issues get resolved soon. Sitting in the shop sucks with snow like this.

$hit tickets. You can wipe your *** with it, clean your clutches with it, make a fire with it. Just not all three at once.

Part of the extra belts on a super deep day is my proprietary tap out program. Instead of wasting time for everything to cool down or going until a belt explodes I simply let them tap out and take off the hot one and throw a fresh one on. If you have enough belts by the time you cycle through the first one is cool again. :face-icon-small-win
Sometimes a beer break is long enough to cool things down but not always lol
 
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Everyone's an engineer��

Never blown a belt on my 2010 doo. Clean clutches every 300mi and replace rollers, pins, center cap and bushing every year. Sometimes maintaince is the easier then having the dealer work on your ****.

Everyone is an engineer.... Except I am fairly sure Loudhandle has a patent pending on a clutch design? :face-icon-small-hap
 
Everyone is an engineer.... Except I am fairly sure Loudhandle has a patent pending on a clutch design? :face-icon-small-hap

Actually it is a complete CVT with none of the weight penalty of the current versions. I designed it small enough to locate it all inside the drivers for centralized weight and to utilize that wasted space. No belt to slip, Gates Poly Chain Carbon (or Mitsuboshi Giga-Torque GX) from crankshaft to driveshaft centerline. The magic all happens inside.
 
Actually it is a complete CVT with none of the weight penalty of the current versions. I designed it small enough to locate it all inside the drivers for centralized weight and to utilize that wasted space. No belt to slip, Gates Poly Chain Carbon (or Mitsuboshi Giga-Torque GX) from crankshaft to driveshaft centerline. The magic all happens inside.

It's puff puff give hombre.
 
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