How many motor problems ???

[turbolover]

What if the sled already had 600 miles on it, then you wanted to go on a 4 day trip?? That only gives you 50 miles/day. Perhaps bring a spare engine?

I usually ride between 40 - 70 miles on each ride. Even with my kids along if we ride half of that on trails I'm pissed about too many trail miles. Guy rides usually start right from the parking lot and there isn't a foot of groomed trail all day. I can't even imagine doing 200 miles of trail. After my last ride I have decided that you get about 5 miles. If we haven't found a play area by then don't bother looking for me cuz I won't be part of your ride anymore.

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[MTNMAN800]

Great to hear all the good posts on the 800. Its a stark contrast to the last few seasons. Can't wait to get my hands on one.

 

[INDEEP]

Boy I'd love to head out on a 4 day trip riding that.

My point is I could care less about warranty. I want a reliable motor in the first place. Polaris doesn't pay for my time, transportation costs, aggravation, and beers after my buddies tow me 15 miles out of the backcountry. Warranty should be for 1 out of 1000 sleds not 1 out of 50.

 

[GMCRMK]

1,200 hard miles. Everything still perfect.

 

[Jaynelson]

Warranty should be for 1 out of 1000 sleds not 1 out of 50.

You should pick a different sport then. A 2-stroke 800+cc snowmobile (from any manufacturer) is likely the least reliable piece of machinery on planet.

 

[INDEEP]

Sometimes I think your right. I had modded 98 Yamaha Srx that went over 4k without any problems. I would love to go back to Yamaha if i could handle the weight.

 

[augerin]

You should pick a different sport then. A 2-stroke 800+cc snowmobile (from any manufacturer) is likely the least reliable piece of machinery on planet.

you've obviously had a different experience than me until I met my '08. 5600 trouble free miles on my '00 and it is still running strong. 2400 miles on the '08 and the entire engine is junk.

 

[Jaynelson]

Well ya, we can play the "I had a _____ that went to ____ with no problems" game all day. But when looked at en mass, snowmobiles are no version of reliable. Think of all the problems you and your riding group has had over the years from any manu....

 

[Demo250]

Usually I would never comment on something like this, but I find it odd how over the years the outrage has turned into acceptance. (And even being defended)

It seems people are becoming brain washed into thinking that these constant problems are okay. Polaris screwed everyone with the 900. They also screwed everyone with the 2008-10 800s. Those guys are left behind with a sled that is worth absolutely nothing and breaks down on average 1.4 times per ride. (Sarcasm on the ride per failure stat for all you Mr Serious's out there)

"If you want reliability, this isn't the sport for you."
Oh sorry, I didn't expect my brand new $13,000 sled to make it more than 5 rides anyway. I should have known right?

"1000 Miles per engine is okay, they are high performance after all"
Uhm, sure... I wouldn't expect them to be bulletproof forever. But cmon, least performance from any of the big 3 in terms of engine output, I'd expect the least performance to come with the BEST reliability....

"Who cares, I have 4 year warranty, I'll just put a new engine in every year"
Oh gee sorry, I guess Polaris owes it to the customers to make the sled as worthless as possible once the warranty runs out.

I'm not trying to bash anyone here... just making an observation in the current trend I've noticed. (The same people who used to complain about the reliability seem to have changed that anger towards Polaris into anger towards anyone who questions the reliability. It's like you guys are trying to change the standards so that everyone will see the Polaris engines as "acceptable reliability." But do you guys seriously believe that, is it really acceptable? Or are you just a little angry with what has been endured over the years?

I know my post has probably angered some people.... even though that was not my intention at all. So bash away if it will make you feel better.

And in all fairness, I think it is almost too early to tell if this new engine will be another flop. Remember most of the problems in the 08 engines started to show up in the 09 season. I really hope these Pro engines will continue to hold together, because Polaris really owes it to their customers to finally have a sled that works well and stays reliable. (Not to mention I could see myself riding one if they stay reliable. Pretty impressive chassis they have here)

 

[BAD MONKEY]

Im with you DEMO250, Seems we are all conditioned to expect engine failure! My older 440, 500 then 600 class sleds never had any issues, even my 06 summit x 8 is still rockin hard with close to 3000 miles of WOT. Now I reading all these threads and wondering if my choice of a 2012 Proclimb is the right one? Guess we'll find out. I do understand that we ask alot from these screamin 8200rpm little monsters pushin deep snow with a 162' trench digger but for 13000$ and all the r&d they put in then yes I do expect to not blow up!

 

[blackie205]

2 down before 1000 miles from guys i ride with and 1 still ripn at 1200+ miles odds r not looking that good one more guy in town has one no problems so far about 800 miles so she is 50/50 so far my brother and cousin are sitting on fence of what to buy for next year i was also considering one but im out till they get better odds then this even if this sled rocks to ride i dont want to be towed anywere ever

 

[akgiauque]

Prois a go

What if the sled already had 600 miles on it, then you wanted to go on a 4 day trip?? That only gives you 50 miles/day. Perhaps bring a spare engine?

On a trip like that I would need 12 belts for my buddies XP. Dealer never could get the clutch to align right. Belt eating monster I have a 2010 800 with over 800 hard miles and it is going strong, lots of engines go down, some have more gremlins than others but the Pro looks like a good one.

 

[GMCRMK]

Don't base a purchase decision on this one or one of the other 15 similar ad-naseum threads on this increasing narrow and non-scientific topic and forum. The same "x" amount of people who've had or "known" of PROs that have gone down repost their woes while the other 9'000ish owners are riding the best (in many people's opinon) out-of-the-box Poo to date. Whatever. The motor is not proven yet but after the first season gives little indication of being a lemon so go for it and enjoy. Out............

 

[aebsledder]

Usually I would never comment on something like this, but I find it odd how over the years the outrage has turned into acceptance. (And even being defended)

It seems people are becoming brain washed into thinking that these constant problems are okay. Polaris screwed everyone with the 900. They also screwed everyone with the 2008-10 800s. Those guys are left behind with a sled that is worth absolutely nothing and breaks down on average 1.4 times per ride. (Sarcasm on the ride per failure stat for all you Mr Serious's out there)

"If you want reliability, this isn't the sport for you."
Oh sorry, I didn't expect my brand new $13,000 sled to make it more than 5 rides anyway. I should have known right?

"1000 Miles per engine is okay, they are high performance after all"
Uhm, sure... I wouldn't expect them to be bulletproof forever. But cmon, least performance from any of the big 3 in terms of engine output, I'd expect the least performance to come with the BEST reliability....

"Who cares, I have 4 year warranty, I'll just put a new engine in every year"
Oh gee sorry, I guess Polaris owes it to the customers to make the sled as worthless as possible once the warranty runs out.

I'm not trying to bash anyone here... just making an observation in the current trend I've noticed. (The same people who used to complain about the reliability seem to have changed that anger towards Polaris into anger towards anyone who questions the reliability. It's like you guys are trying to change the standards so that everyone will see the Polaris engines as "acceptable reliability." But do you guys seriously believe that, is it really acceptable? Or are you just a little angry with what has been endured over the years?

I know my post has probably angered some people.... even though that was not my intention at all. So bash away if it will make you feel better.

And in all fairness, I think it is almost too early to tell if this new engine will be another flop. Remember most of the problems in the 08 engines started to show up in the 09 season. I really hope these Pro engines will continue to hold together, because Polaris really owes it to their customers to finally have a sled that works well and stays reliable. (Not to mention I could see myself riding one if they stay reliable. Pretty impressive chassis they have here)

Now that right there is a hell of a good post. And...check out the age. 19? In this day and age I am suddenly inspired with hope for the youth of North America (He is Canadian)

 

[m8sandman]

i'll always tell my buds who don't snowmobile they are the biggest pos's you'll ever spend over 10k on!!! don't know of any other motorized sport that has soooooooooo many problems, you think for the coin they charge for these things, which in my opinion is about double what they are really worth, you should get at least 10,000 trouble free miles. what if an auto man. came out with a car that broke down every few hundred miles, they'd be out of business! they need to make a lemon law for sleds in every state, i'd bet the reliability would go way up then...

 

[GoBigParts]

Usually I would never comment on something like this, but I find it odd how over the years the outrage has turned into acceptance. (And even being defended)

It seems people are becoming brain washed into thinking that these constant problems are okay. Polaris screwed everyone with the 900. They also screwed everyone with the 2008-10 800s. Those guys are left behind with a sled that is worth absolutely nothing and breaks down on average 1.4 times per ride. (Sarcasm on the ride per failure stat for all you Mr Serious's out there)

"If you want reliability, this isn't the sport for you."
Oh sorry, I didn't expect my brand new $13,000 sled to make it more than 5 rides anyway. I should have known right?

"1000 Miles per engine is okay, they are high performance after all"
Uhm, sure... I wouldn't expect them to be bulletproof forever. But cmon, least performance from any of the big 3 in terms of engine output, I'd expect the least performance to come with the BEST reliability....

"Who cares, I have 4 year warranty, I'll just put a new engine in every year"
Oh gee sorry, I guess Polaris owes it to the customers to make the sled as worthless as possible once the warranty runs out.

I'm not trying to bash anyone here... just making an observation in the current trend I've noticed. (The same people who used to complain about the reliability seem to have changed that anger towards Polaris into anger towards anyone who questions the reliability. It's like you guys are trying to change the standards so that everyone will see the Polaris engines as "acceptable reliability." But do you guys seriously believe that, is it really acceptable? Or are you just a little angry with what has been endured over the years?

I know my post has probably angered some people.... even though that was not my intention at all. So bash away if it will make you feel better.

And in all fairness, I think it is almost too early to tell if this new engine will be another flop. Remember most of the problems in the 08 engines started to show up in the 09 season. I really hope these Pro engines will continue to hold together, because Polaris really owes it to their customers to finally have a sled that works well and stays reliable. (Not to mention I could see myself riding one if they stay reliable. Pretty impressive chassis they have here)

Yeah, We had really bad luck with the 03-05 ski-doos with the single rings. Never rebuilt so many motors in my life. Most just accepted it. I had a hard time accepting it. Is this was our new sleds have come to?

 

[Demo250]

Now that right there is a hell of a good post. And...check out the age. 19? In this day and age I am suddenly inspired with hope for the youth of North America (He is Canadian)

Haha, well thank you.

Yeah, We had really bad luck with the 03-05 ski-doos with the single rings. Never rebuilt so many motors in my life. Most just accepted it. I had a hard time accepting it. Is this was our new sleds have come to?

Yeah, it definitely gets pretty frustrating when your sled is constantly down... I'm only 19 but I probably have one of the worst dealership horror stories on this site. My first real mountain sled was a 2007 RMK 600 and it was a great sled to learn on, very reliable to. At 4000 miles lost the crank and a piston.

Okay, no problem. 4000 miles is a lot of riding and I still had a bit of warranty left anyway. Shop was a long way away and phoned like a week before warranty ran out. They said no problem bring it in when you can and it WILL be under warranty. Anyways, couldn't bring it in that week so it came into the shop a few days after warranty had ran out. No problem though, they remember my phone call.

Go to pick it up a couple weeks later... they hand over a $4000 bill. Eventually got stuck paying it after a lot of arguing. Turns out "no one can remember talking to you about warranty." (So much for a mans word these days, huh?)

So first time I ride it around the yard I tell them I'm concerned with the amount of vibration. "Oh it's fine, just needs to be broken in."

Anyways, there was no riding it for a few months... couldn't afford it after that bill from them. Finally got out to the mountains and broke down on the road in. Lost the crank again. It turns out they never measured the run out and it was a defective crank from Polaris. Would it be too much to expect a warranty fix after that? They thought so... it was a struggle to get anything out of them, but finally got a replacement crank. No chance they would rebuild the engine though because my "30 day no questions asked rebuild warranty" was over. (Too bad I couldn't ride in those 30 days because I was paying the damn bill off..... the crank they put in lasted 15 miles it was so far out of spec)

Wow, even a few years later that still gets me angry typing that story.

 

[Jaynelson]

"If you want reliability, this isn't the sport for you."
Oh sorry, I didn't expect my brand new $13,000 sled to make it more than 5 rides anyway. I should have known right?

I agree that sled reliability in general is a joke....particularily even from new. I work at an auto dealer, and can't count the number of times I've posted on this forum "If they built cars how they build sleds, "they" would all be in jail."

That said, if you want to ride sleds, it is a necessary evil. I don't think it should be, but it is. I think it's better for people to know that up front, rather than get them into something they can't handle financially.

You aren't going to solve it, IMO, with any manufacturer aside from going with a 4-stroke Yamaha. The other 3 basically make some good ones and some bads ones. You might get lucky you might not.

My 700 RMK went to 4,500 miles before it blew up from an avoidable incident (cracked oil line). My Rev blew 2 motors before 1,300 miles. Does that mean Polaris is more reliable? Hell no. It means the 01 RMK 700 had a less crappy motor in it than the 07 800R Doo....and that neither was without fault. So what the hell does that mean? It means they're all junk, pick your poison!

 

[samiams2]

800 trouble free miles then Boom, But why would you care? Polaris had a new motor in my sled in 10 days! Plus I still have 3 more years of warranty, worst case scenario you pay $50 for a new motor every year.

I think this could be polaris' new sales pitch. " Some motors have a bottom and it that on the last 800 miles... but don't worry! We will have a new 1 in your sled in10 days!"

You are right, that would be the worst case scenario.....BY FAR!

 

[danjpohl]

I am a computer geek by day and this is starting to sound like the software industry. Maybe that is where this acceptance of crap started.

Companies put out a program that is OK and you have to wait and wait for the updates before it gets better.

Who knows, maybe they will come around. Microsoft sure seemed to come around with windows 7 after putting out the vista crud.

I may have just sold my 4 stroke yami today, I am excited and afraid to enter the 2 stroke world!!!

Let's I hope I get one of the good ones!

It is nice that they seem to be good about covering the engines. NOW IF THEY WOULD ALSO COVER A MOUNTAIN SLED RENTAL FOR THE REST OF YOUR TRIP!!! Wonder if there is insurance for that.