The 600 will be a hell of a boon docking sled right out of the box. I bet everything else equal it will outboondock the 800.
How Good is the 600 Going to Be??
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IMO the math just doesn't pencil .... 200 fewer CCs (less HP and less torque) and it weighs the same as an 800??? It's a no brainer .... Now if the 600 weighed less then maybe I can see why someone would want one ... JMO.
Price ($1300-1500 less), less rotating mass, reliability (everyone manufacturers 600 is more reliable than their 800) and the fun factor. It would be fun to boondock that sled. It's a tree machine in my mind.
Plus...I would like to have one for my wife. It's a little less intimidating than the 800. She wouldn't have to worry about grabbing too much throttle at the wrong time. She loves my Pro 800 so I'm sure the Pro 600 would work great for her.
It's not for everyone, but it does have an audience.
Exactly! It's not for everyone, but it is good for many that don't need an 800.
This was my thought also. What makes a 600 so different. Is it the way the motor revs and makes power? Is the suspension different? Does it just handle different? If the weight is the same and the only difference is some hp/tq how can it be better. I have never been on one so these are just questions and not bashing the 600. Fbomb said you could get a BB for about the same cost difference as the 800, but if the hp is the only diff why not just start with more?
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I have a friend that rode one and when I told him it weighed the same as the 800 he didn't believe me. He said it felt much lighter than the 800 PRO he had been on. Some of his experience was (I think) the belief that it had to be lighter than the 800, and the rest was less rotating mass. I suspect if he rode it again with the knowledge that it weighed the same as the 800, he might be a little less impressed. I think they are a great choice for those riders who don't need to keep up with the 800's in the steep and deep.
You should also consider altitude, if your riding at low altitude the 600 will have as much power as an 800 at elevation. Since I ride down low the 600 has really got me interested.
Chris Burandt has said the same thing (about the weight feeling less than the 800). However, he is a Polaris guy now. But he usually has really good input and I've heard him be honest even if it doesn't favor Polaris.
For a moment, even though it is on paper, compare the Pro 600 to the Doo 600 DI, M6, M1100 (non-turbo) and even the Nytro. What would you take? Let's make the comparison apples to apples instead of comparing the 600 to something 200cc's bigger. I have strong feeling the Pro 600 will whoop up on all those other sleds in just about everything minus fuel mileage.
Good Point Bug. From where I live, and given that line up I wouldn't pick anything but the Pro 600. If I lived in Colorado or somewhere with altitude, the 1100 Cat would be a good consideration as it wouldn't lose juice headin' up. (But I don't know what the Cat weighs)
Good Point!!
I know I loved my 600 and unless it was a bottomless day, or really steep, I went where my buddies went . . .
Bag
Good Point!!
I know I loved my 600 and unless it was a bottomless day, or really steep, I went where my buddies went . . .
Bag
Once again, that is the non-turbo 1100, so it would lose HP just as quick.
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I agree BugIto - that one is a no-brainer. I'd take the Pro RMK, then a 2011 M6, followed my the Ski-Doo. I would NEVER consider the Cat 1100 - sounds like a good trail sled, and I have never liked the Nytros. The Pro RMK would whip them all.
Here's something else to think about. I think the 700 motor in this chassis would be perfect. I rarely heard of problems with that motor and I think it would love the Pro chassis. I would rather have that than the 8 or the 6. My theory is that out on the snow there would be such a small difference between the 7 and 8 that Polaris simply can't put the motor in there. Man I wish they would...
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Here's something else to think about. I think the 700 motor in this chassis would be perfect. I rarely heard of problems with that motor and I think it would love the Pro chassis. I would rather have that than the 8 or the 6. My theory is that out on the snow there would be such a small difference between the 7 and 8 that Polaris simply can't put the motor in there. Man I wish they would...
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I agree, the 700 would be a good way to go. I have one in an Edge chassis and they are real strong.
The 600 will have a better power curve, the power will come on faster. Yes it will die off on the top end and this is where the 800 will show the extra displacement but in the trees, on/off throttle it will excel.
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Agreed
I would love to see the 700 come back. But then again how much different is that from the 660 package from Carls? minus the warranty that would come with a stock 700 of course...
So then the plan is get a 600 Pro...tip toe over to richracer1's and steal the motor out of The Shocker http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274885
while he's at work and drop it in the Pro.
Of course, he's prolly got one of those Pee Wee Herman secret vaults he hides it in.
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I had the opportunity to take the 600 pro for an entire day last year and put it to the test and my conclusion was that it was an extremely fun sled for boondocking around but it definitely needs a little more power for pulling up hills. We took it into one of the gnarliest places we ride and it was a pretty deep day. I could carve my way up and around almost everything I needed to but there were a few times I was wishing I could just point it straight and get through a spot. There were plenty of times that the sled just couldn't spin the track enough to take the lines that I wanted it to take. I would have no problem putting a girlfriend or something on the sled because it was definitely fun and it can go anywhere you will want to take it. But for me personally It was slightly underpowered for what I needed it to do. There are times when I like to pull a hill and just know I am going to make it, not roll over at 5 mph sweating the last 25 feet. So my vote would be for the difference go with the 800 or maybe save the money and get yourself a boondocker turbo setup on the 600 and then you have a perfect boondock sled!
I have owned a 02,05,08 and 2010 600 still have the 10 and my 800 last year ran way better then my last two 600!!!!! Now that I ride and 800 I will never go back to a 600, rode the 600 2012 last year in west yellowstone and it felt the same as my 10 does still just a 600!!!!!
Hmmm... that is because it is still a 600. I keep reminding my husband that he will be disappointed when my sled comes but I will be really happy.
Not everyone wants a 800, I don't and I don't need one either. I'm not going to pulling the same lines on the hill as him and frankly that doesn't matter if I am on a bigger cc sled or not. The things I want to do the 600 lends itself to very nicely.
Plus from experience when you weight less you don't need a bigger sled to haul you around, I don't have trouble keeping up on my m7, it takes me everywhere I've ever needed to go and a few places I really shouldn't have been. I don't foresee it being any different on the 600, in fact with a more nimble chassis I'm thinking I might have the edge in certain situations.
I am soooooooooo ready for my sled to come in, this has been a very long summer!
Oh by the way, my husband has claimed the m7. He says it is just plain fun to ride, it will be the play sled. Slapped a mountain fit hood on it and a taller riser, he is looking forward to using it. lol
Not everyone wants a 800, I don't and I don't need one either. I'm not going to pulling the same lines on the hill as him and frankly that doesn't matter if I am on a bigger cc sled or not. The things I want to do the 600 lends itself to very nicely.
Plus from experience when you weight less you don't need a bigger sled to haul you around, I don't have trouble keeping up on my m7, it takes me everywhere I've ever needed to go and a few places I really shouldn't have been. I don't foresee it being any different on the 600, in fact with a more nimble chassis I'm thinking I might have the edge in certain situations.
I am soooooooooo ready for my sled to come in, this has been a very long summer!
Oh by the way, my husband has claimed the m7. He says it is just plain fun to ride, it will be the play sled. Slapped a mountain fit hood on it and a taller riser, he is looking forward to using it. lol
Steph that sled won't even know you are on it! Her on a 600 is just you guys on an 800 plain and simple HP versus mass.
Your post question would be "HOW GOOD WILL STEPH BE ON THE 600?" answer in a about a week of stick time...twice as good as she was on anything she's ridden to date. Smile will be that big as well! I bets your husband has a PRO chassis before the end of the season.
Oh and I can make the 600 go like your everyday 8 with a couple of tricks and goodies.
NOTE: the 7 only netted a whisker more HP in EPA ready version than the 6...pretty simple business decision to limit the choice between the two...it still should have been marketed as an entry level vehicle and priced as a catalyst to the 800. Apparently marketing and accounting didn't think so. BOOOOOOOO
Your post question would be "HOW GOOD WILL STEPH BE ON THE 600?" answer in a about a week of stick time...twice as good as she was on anything she's ridden to date. Smile will be that big as well! I bets your husband has a PRO chassis before the end of the season.
Oh and I can make the 600 go like your everyday 8 with a couple of tricks and goodies.
NOTE: the 7 only netted a whisker more HP in EPA ready version than the 6...pretty simple business decision to limit the choice between the two...it still should have been marketed as an entry level vehicle and priced as a catalyst to the 800. Apparently marketing and accounting didn't think so. BOOOOOOOO
