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how do you give bad rep?

Dido, Snowday is a good HMK dealer. If anyone knows this Watts guy go pay him a visit and keep him honest. TTT
 
still nothing. i sent him 2 more emails and left a message for him.

does anybody know him personally who can call him on this and maybe convince him not to put a pinch on such a tight community?

this is not something i would expect out of somebody trying to do business the same way i am!

i hope nobody burns him the way he's burned me!
 
Is this too much to ask?

Jeff -

What's the deal? You still haven't gotten me payment for the jackets you bought. I know you got good use out of them, you told me yourself they work great for you.

It is bs that you haven't paid me! I have been waiting for way too long after help ing you out by sending them before payment cleared so you would be able to use them.

Do something good for somebody, get screwed? Is that how you want people to repay your trust? I wouldn't expect this kind of situation from another person trying to do business on Snowest or anywhere.

Why have you not responded to any of my messages? Are you intentionally screwing me? One time I can understand a miscommunication, the second, third, fourth time... No.

I sent you another invoice via PayPal on Thursday and I will again today. Please pay so this can be done with. It doesn't take credit card companies or banks this long to fix an account issue, whether it be someone stealing your cards or whatever you intial issue was with your payment not going through.

Fix this so it can be done. I pride myself on taking every step for people doing business with me to be happy with the transaction. Luckily I have only been screwed once, this time. Don't ruin it for everybody else. You made a deal, I followed through with my end and went the extra step for you.
 
Looks like he was on last night. So he has seen your posts....interesting he hasn't defended himself. You have his name and DOB from his profile page. File a small claims on him.
 
I see he has more then plenty O red to his name, and if he doesn't get this fixed soon he will never have a chance to fix the red!


Pony up and be a man and get this fixed.
 
Giving him a red square in the rep box won't do you any good, as he is gonna be the only person to see it. Your best bet, is to post as much as you know about him here and flame him hard.

I did that a couple of years ago with a kid that I referred to rent a condo in Steamboat and he ended up stiffing the owner for several months rent, stealing stuff from the condo, stealing from his job and leaving a trail of pizzed off peeps behind him. I posted on SW and then other peeps took it to another level and got his Dad into it. Last I heard he had to have his parents bail him out and he has NEVER logged on since then.
 
I know this site isnt as bad as other sites I have been a part of the community with, but why does this site not offer a feedback section like other sites out there.. Basically, the buyer and seller have the option of posting into that section with the good or bad of the sale they experienced with this person. Works very well on other sites and no need for a certain amount posts to do so. That way if you are dealing with someone, a quick search under the feedback section for their name will tell you whether or not to deal with this person. Not full proof, but very effective on other sites. Why dont we have this here? I have dealt with quite a few people on here so far and everyone has been awesome, but I no way of expressing this to anyone. Just a thought.:D
 
finally heard something from wattsmasonry. he said he had been unreachable(?). whatever the case, he says he is sending me payment. i'm crossing my fingers, hopefully this will be resolved and can be written of as bad communication.

unfortunately it has spoiled my ability to be as trusting. almost $400 out of pocket can put a bit of a damper on the end of your winter when you are trying to squeeze the last few days of snow in. i couldn't afford a final trek for the end of winter because of it but maybe that is for the best.

i'll keep all up to date on whether or not payment comes this time.
 
Well hopefully it was this post that got his attention or someone he knows saw it and got a hold of him. And you get your money. I have only bought 1 thing off of here and I got hosed. I bought a used trailing arm. Well when it showed up it did not have the decal on it & it was filled with a foam or something. Really upset me because I would have paid the extra $30 or so for a new one. Kind of went through the same thing you did snowday, with asking around on here what to do. Called PayPal and there was nothing they could do because I had received something for the money I paid. Well unfortuntaley it was not what I was told it was - so I was pretty frustrated with the whole thing. Posted something like you did and found out that the person who sold me the trailing arm had done this to others as well. Why is it that 99% of the people on here are awesome, straight forward, & honest. And then once in awhile we find the 1% jerk. Unforturnately it has make me VERY skeptical on buying anything on here again. I have had good luck with finding people in my area that I can meet and look at the stuff and give them the cash right there. I like what I saw on this thread how a bunch of people that may not know you all gave their support - that is the 99% that I like.
 
you've got to love the 99%. thanks for the support and help on keeping the forums honest.

unfortunately, i am again being ignored. i was told again money will come but no word on how or when. i sent an invoice via paypal. it hasn't been paid. check in the mail??? maybe, it wouldn't be the first time the check was supposedly sent.

how can anybody feel good about screwing somebody over that helps them out?

hopefully a check actually shows this time. i don't get a month to pay like he has taken.
 
I've found that if its a merchandiser or dealer of sorts who screws you over, craig's list does some rep damage! I got pounded pretty hard on a lightweight lexan hood through BRtech a few years back. Paid for a mint condition hood and panels for a Rev and got Blemmed crap!!!!! Brock Roberts was the guy who sold me the junk and he wouldn't reply to phone calls, emails, or IM's so i posted him on Craig's list.. now he hauls trash for a living.. BRTech is still in the mag's and has a few advertisements here and there but i'll never buy anything from him again.. he sells crap for ridiculous prices.. his lexan panels fell apart within a week and the hook cracked first ride out. Watch out for these scandals as they don't care who's on the recieving end as long as payment goes through...
 
i just sent him this -

3 months! where the hell is my money! you got my jackets and were happy with my prices and delivery and product... why screw me over?! not the kind of action i would expect out of somebody doing business on this site as well!

who knnows this guy?! has he f'd other people like this?
 
Can you get the local police involved?

That sucks, I was just thinking the other day that this must have been taken care of because it had been a few weeks.


In one of his posts it lists the following company's stuff he sells;
WATTS UP TOYZ OWNER
Bryan Watts 509-492-1995
wattsuptoyz@gmail.com
Dealer for:
Mountain Addiction gas can's and rack's
super clamp & super glide
Twisted Turbos kits

Maybe you could try and track him down through one of them or call them to see if they have any problems getting payment out of him.


Good Luck man, There must be somebody that knows him that will help you out.
 
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