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Hillaries plan to lower gas prices

Looks like about 32 years according to this article.



US appears to have built its last refinery
12-06-01 No new refineries have been built in the US in the past 25 years. And petroleum industry experts say anyone would have to be crazy to launch such an effort -- even though present refineries are running at nearly 100 % of capacity and local gasoline shortages are beginning to crop up.

Why does the industry appear to have built its last refinery?
Three reasons: Refineries are not particularly profitable, environmentalists fight planning and construction every step of the way and government red-tape makes the task all but impossible. The last refinery built in the US was in Garyville, Louisiana, and it started up in 1976.
Energy proposed building a refinery near Portsmouth, Virginia, in the late 1970s, environmental groups and local residents fought the plan -- and it took almost nine years of battles in court and before federal and state regulators before the company cancelled the project in 1984.

Industry officials estimate the cost of building a new refinery at between $ 2 bn and $ 4 bn -- at a time the industry must devote close to $ 20 bn over the next decade to reducing the sulphur content in gasoline and other fuels -- and approval could mean having to collect up to 800 different permits. As if those hurdles weren't enough, the industry's long-term rate of return on capital is just 5 % -- less than could be realized by simply buying US Treasury bonds.
"I'm sure that at some point in the last 20 years someone has considered building a new refinery," says James Halloran, an energy analyst with National City Corp. "But they quickly came to their senses," he adds.



Source: Investor's Business Daily
 
Marathon oil is building a 7.5 mil/gal a day refinery in louisiana at $3.2 bil. cost to build It is scheduled to go on line in 2010. Perssonaly I hope hillary tries to screw with the oil companies she will end up like JFK did when he tried to screw with the big banks! DEAD!
 
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Marathon oil is building a 7.5 mil/gal a day refinery in louisiana at $3.2 bil. cost to build It is scheduled to go on line in 2010. Perssonaly I hope hillary tries to screw with the oil companies she will end up like JFK did when he tried to screw with the big banks! DEAD!

I think that refinery is replacing one wiped out by Katrina.

Either way, we still don't have refinement capacity to support much more oil.
 
Speaking of Katrina.....something that never made sense to me. After that storm we supposedly lost like 25-30%??? of our refinery capacity. These are the same refineries that are supposedly running at full capacity and any updates or interuptions in output result in prices going up.
If this is true, how come our usage during this time was at an all time high, never touched any reserves and we never saw any fuel shortages?? Doesn't add up.
 
Speaking of Katrina.....something that never made sense to me. After that storm we supposedly lost like 25-30%??? of our refinery capacity. These are the same refineries that are supposedly running at full capacity and any updates or interuptions in output result in prices going up.
If this is true, how come our usage during this time was at an all time high, never touched any reserves and we never saw any fuel shortages?? Doesn't add up.

Our reserves are CRUDE oil (un-refined). I don't think usage was at an all time high. The price of fuel instantly shot up, which more than likely cause at least a few people/companies/business's to cut back use.


Just so you know. there is little chance that our reserves are going to be used for private citizens. They are mostly in place for the military.
 
You guys have any data on the percent capacity that the oil refineries are running at? I seem to remember them being around 80 or so, not the maxed out at full capacity like you guys are suggesting.

watch out, this goes to npr

edit, link added, looks like they are going to be around 90 percent...
 
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Southeast SD will likely be getting a refinery.
First estimated at $8 billion, now estimates are at $10 billion.
Many years before it will be "online".
 
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