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Haydays! New site approved, finally.

I grabbed this from a MN thread on Hardcoresledder.com, since I didn't find any reference here on SW.
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(Comment from HCS member)

"It is located between North Branch and taylors falls in Almelund on hwy 95 . I am not 100 % sure but I think one of the issues is ALL swappers must arrive on friday , NO saturday swapper arrivals , again I am not 100 % sure on this point but Kevin (ridden the best -ha ha) and I will try to keep everyone up to date on any news . It is a very small town so try to plan accordingly if looking for rooms ."

(Local news item.)

BY DENISE MARTIN
Chisago County Press

On a 3-1-1 vote February 18 the Chisago County Board gave the green light allowing the Hay Days event to be held in Sunrise Township this fall. The two-day snowmobile and ATV event is moving from Columbus, just outside of Forest Lake to the area near County Road 15 and Hwy. 95, between North Branch and Taylors Falls.

The no vote on the Sno Barons' permit application came from Chair Ben Montzka who could not support the "tool" used to permit the world's largest grass drag racing and swap meet event.

Montzka said the county should have applied a Special Events permit or an "Interim Use" permit to regulate this; because Hay Days is an ever-evolving land use and is well beyond the scope of what the county usually can regulate under a Conditional Use Permit. Conditional Use Permits also run with the land.

"We're using the framing we have" Montzka acknowledged, but he said there will be issues in the future the county won't be able to respond to through a CUP, so he voted no.

Commissioner Rick Greene was the abstention. Greene was advised by the county attorney's office to abstain due to the potential for a conflict of interest. The Greene's farmstead is next to the Hay Days acres, west of Almelund.

Commissioner Mike Robinson tried to cajole Greene into declaring his stance anyway. Robinson asked a few times of Greene, "What do you think?"

Chairman Montzka reminded Robinson he was out-of-order and that an abstaining commissioner must have no part in discussion on the item or even try to influence discussion.

The Hay Days issue filled the County Board Room and exterior hallway with interested citizens. Many spoke during the "public forum" that is held at 7 p.m. in Board meetings. The actual public record had been closed by the county planning commission when it took action two weeks ago recommending the permit. Public hearings are ordinarily only before the planning group.

Still, public forum comment took 45 minutes.

Remarks ranged from the fire chief to an environmental writer.

The chief was assuring everyone the firefighters are "prepared" for any contingency during Hay Days. John Lichtscheidl said the Almelund department's top priority is to "protect the community."

Mel Mettler, mayor of the town where Hay Days has taken place for decades, said the Sno Barons people are terrific to work with. "We (Columbus) had nothing but cooperation from the Sno Barons," Mettler testified.

Reps from the North Branch Chamber and the Chisago Lakes Chamber spoke of the positive economic ripple effect of the huge event.

LeeAnn Vande Kamp, Almelund area resident, said the Hay Days permit approval tells other entrepreneurs that Chisago County is willing to hear new ideas and that "their investment of time and money" in locating to Chisago County will not be wasted.

On the other side, many spoke about the impact of the event on their quality of rural life.

One neighboring property owner was philosophically opposed; saying this is a time in world history when he feels mankind is "being called to look beyond our toys." He said there is a "higher reality here" and questioned the reasonableness of burning tons of fossil fuels racing motorized toys.

Another person said county fairgrounds or other more suitable urban-based setting should have been considered. (According to Commissioner Robinson the fair property is too small at 39 acres.)

At least three people spoke about concerns they had with the planning commission review. Citizens said the planning commission did no "diligent analysis" of the Hay Days event, and when presented with criteria on which to base denial of the permit, the commission had "little to no interest" in this.

Those opposed said Hay Days is going to cost the county more in law enforcement manpower, permit enforcement, contamination and environmental impacts, and citizen grief than any sum of money it will generate for local benefit.
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(More info)

Win Tickets to Haydays..2009
Hay Days Grass Drags

September 12 & 13, 2009

Ten pairs of two day passes for Haydays 2009 (A $50.00 Value) will be selected from those who fill out this survey AND leave their name and E-mail address

http://www.snobarons.com/haydays/haydays_survey_form.html
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(from a HCS member)
(Google map view.)

"west of Almelund, at Oriole Ave. near Highway 95.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=sunrise+,+mn&ie=UTF8&ll=45.512001,-92.853527&spn=0.11476,0.281525&z=12

Happy to see this got done and Haydays will be moving to a much bigger site - 140-220 acres, compared to 80."
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Those opposed said Hay Days is going to cost the county more in law enforcement manpower, permit enforcement, contamination and environmental impacts, and citizen grief than any sum of money it will generate for local benefit.
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Glad to see this finally got done.
I wonder if the ones doing all the pissing and moaning have the same feeling about the Almelund Threshing Show held each year just a few miles fron the SnoBarons site. You know those antique tractors with straight pipes and those wood fired steam engines are just evil.:mad:[sarcasm inserted]
 
^^^^^^

Haha, BU1,
I love threshing and antique machinery shows, but was not aware of the one you mention. I may have to check it out.

We really enjoy the grand daddy show at Rollag,MN, S.E. of Fargo.
www.rollag.com
Lots of dense black clouds of coal smoke, and loud iron monster "Oil Pull" tractors. :cool:
Rollag has two saw mills. The big one I could watch all day. Powered by five (5) steam engines, all running at once. Incredible. The building housing it is about 200 ft long.

LeSeur has a nice show, and so does Albany,MN. Atwater,MN has a nice little show too.
Went to the "White Pine" show, last fall, located east of lake Mille Lacs a few miles. A lot of their stationary equipment wasn't working, or broke down.The parade took waaaaaayy too long.

Like the "Garage Logic" saying, "euphorians can't link."
 
Snowizard said:
Those opposed said Hay Days is going to cost the county more in law enforcement manpower, permit enforcement, contamination and environmental impacts, and citizen grief than any sum of money it will generate for local benefit.


Isnt that the exact same thing that happens when you build tons of new homes? Have they and do they allow new home construction there?

Snowizard said:
I love threshing and antique machinery shows

LeSeur has a nice show, and so does Albany,MN. Atwater,MN has a nice little show too.

The Albany show is about a mile from my house. We enjoy going every year!
 
Just to be clear, those weren't my words. Those were people arguing against haydays to the county board. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Snowizard
Those opposed said Hay Days is going to cost the county more in law enforcement manpower, permit enforcement, contamination and environmental impacts, and citizen grief than any sum of money it will generate for local benefit."

The Albany show is about a mile from my house. We enjoy going every year!
Yeah we tried to tough out the rain this year, but only managed about 2 hrs walking around. Seems like it rains often that weekend of their show.
I really liked the construction equipment theme a few years ago. Very cool. If you've never been to Rollag, you must make it a priority. Allow 2 days to see it all.
The grounds are much bigger than the State Fair. Over 90 buildings, two parades daily.
 
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i just booked my room for haydays... cant wait!!! i hope its going to be better then last year
 
glad it went through......but they just moved even farthr into the redneck refuge. Can't wait to see what the swap has now!

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How to they compare to the "jackpine savages" in Cass, Crow Wing, and Aitkin counties? :D

Better to be a Jack Pine then the kind of folks down there. You ever been in the Cambridge Walmart? It's sad when Troy is the cream of the crop for an area;)
 
Better to be a Jack Pine then the kind of folks down there. You ever been in the Cambridge Walmart? It's sad when Troy is the cream of the crop for an area;)
Proly not much different than the Brainerd/Baxter Walmart. Some rough lookin' hombre's and their mama's in there, who haven't stood close enough to a razor, laundry, or shower for a very long time. :eek: :D
I thnik you were referring to "Switchback" Troy. I've been to his party twice. Nice folks, nice place.
 
Better to be a Jack Pine then the kind of folks down there. You ever been in the Cambridge Walmart? It's sad when Troy is the cream of the crop for an area;)


Hey now, that's my backyard you're talking about. Don't be lumping all of us into the same category. :mad: That's profiling, isn't it??????????:beer;
 
Hey now, that's my backyard you're talking about. Don't be lumping all of us into the same category. :mad: That's profiling, isn't it??????????:beer;

naw not if it's true;)

Been thinking and unless there is a better way then heading east on 95 it is gonna take guys all night to get out of there.
 
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