easy does it boys....you are forgetting what you are up against, the people...we are the minority right now but all it takes is a silver tongue fox to educate the sheeple on where we are headed. It's in more of a psyshological stage right now. I suggest to those of you who have kids to teach them about america and the price of freedom.
Gun ban is a coming; HR 45
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I agree with that very much!
I have a hard time believing that my brothers at arms will want to do me any harm, especially if we can get a strong, intelligent arguement out there. we are only at risk if someone does something rash, or if they can get us one by one. as a group we will stand strong and be able to spread intelligent debate.
but if it hits the fan, we are the wrong guys to be messing with.
but if it hits the fan, we are the wrong guys to be messing with.
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agreed bro...but I know many in the military that will follow these unlawful orders, it will happen. I think most in the armed services are there for the right reason and have good morals, but I have served with those that just want to kill and are in it for power.
I have good brothers in the military that have sworn to protect this nation and following unlawful orders is not one of them....them nor I will be one that turns on good citizens that want to protect the Constitution. I took an oath when I joined, to protect the Consitution from enemies foreign and domestic. If the President of the US decides to violate the Consitution...I will be with the Constitution, not him. The Consitution is a much higher power!
My dad told me that when someone joins the service now....they ask you if you will fire your weapon on an American citizen. Does anyone know if this is true?
My more immediate concern is criminals and opportunists if\when things go bad. A few years ago we had avalanches that closed I-70. Stores in Summit County were emptied in 3 days. Every year people get trampled around Xmas for Nintendo Wii's and Tickle Me Elmo dolls. It will take much less than people think for things to get really bad.
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Definitely, that will be the first wave of scum we will have to deal with. One good thing is that most of them don't have any training and are poorly equipped....however they will acquire weapons on their push. I will definitely put them down and re-acquire!
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Do not let this madness take your rights away! We have had this silly gun control for a while now. The results in my area are, law abiding citizens forced to register weapons and all the criminal types are better armed than the cops.
I used to go shoot at fort lewis wash, now I do not anymore because 4 years ago some Canadian border guard {unarmed at the time} hassled me about the need for my large bore rifles. 4 hours later when this bozo had realized that my weapons were not illegal I was able to go home. BS, should not have to explain anything unless caught breaking the law. The big guns {375 H&H maggy and 600 wildcat bore} are rare but extremely useful and make great conversation pieces at shoots. You guys have my sympathy as we have survived this crap up here and there are a lot of "cabin guns" around these parts that will never be registered. FACT, CRIMINALS WILL NEVER REGISTER THEIR WEAPONS! Is it better to have an armed population or just armed criminals?
I used to go shoot at fort lewis wash, now I do not anymore because 4 years ago some Canadian border guard {unarmed at the time} hassled me about the need for my large bore rifles. 4 hours later when this bozo had realized that my weapons were not illegal I was able to go home. BS, should not have to explain anything unless caught breaking the law. The big guns {375 H&H maggy and 600 wildcat bore} are rare but extremely useful and make great conversation pieces at shoots. You guys have my sympathy as we have survived this crap up here and there are a lot of "cabin guns" around these parts that will never be registered. FACT, CRIMINALS WILL NEVER REGISTER THEIR WEAPONS! Is it better to have an armed population or just armed criminals?
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Dude I am lighting you up with green for that thread when off lockdown! ...and me likey those big guns! Want to sell them!?
I like your last question....it makes it pretty damn simple as it really is!Criminals, by definition, are not allowed to own guns in the United States. But, repeat offenders keep rotating through the system, with multiple gun violations. The cops and our legal system can't seem to do anything about it. But, they can't wait to take guns away from the law abiding. The idiots don't realize that all you need to make a gun, is a lathe, and a file. Milling machine helps too. Unless your in prison, then it seems all you need is a toothbrush, and a mop handle.
If you really want to protect gun rights, seems getting the AARP bunch wound up, is the way to do it. Guns give senior citizens a balanced playing field. My dad probably doesn't need to be going on a slug fest with a mugger, but he can shoot the chrip off a grasshopper. People leave him alone. Peace is furthered.
Meatman, don't worry. I'm just talking about knowledge. Implementation is still a long way off. Misusing such knowledge now, would not accomplish anything, except to drive the sheep into the hands of their future kings. Waiting until a large percentage of the country is ready to act, is the only way to win such a war of ideas. The political process is the right way to solve our problems, for now. We still have elections available to correct these anti-american tendencies the masses have embraced.
If you really want to protect gun rights, seems getting the AARP bunch wound up, is the way to do it. Guns give senior citizens a balanced playing field. My dad probably doesn't need to be going on a slug fest with a mugger, but he can shoot the chrip off a grasshopper. People leave him alone. Peace is furthered.
Meatman, don't worry. I'm just talking about knowledge. Implementation is still a long way off. Misusing such knowledge now, would not accomplish anything, except to drive the sheep into the hands of their future kings. Waiting until a large percentage of the country is ready to act, is the only way to win such a war of ideas. The political process is the right way to solve our problems, for now. We still have elections available to correct these anti-american tendencies the masses have embraced.
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Wade you are close...anyone that has been convicted of an enumerated felony cannot own a firearm. Federal law also prohibits those convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence from owning firearms. It is also against the law to have a firearm in your possession while having possession of illegal drugs or distributing illegal drugs. An enumerated felony means (armed robbery, burglary, possession of narcotics, rape, sex offenses, etc....usually crimes that are considered violent in nature) Some states, however, superceed the enumerated felonies and ban all felons from owning firearms. Regarding Idaho and federal law, a felon that was convicted of a non-enumerated felony ...such as fraud, grand theft can have a firearm in their possession after they have served their probation or prison sentence. All convicted felons can petition the court or parole board for reinstatement of their gun rights....5 years after their prison or probation term is completed.
Join the NRA!!!!
Anybody who hasn't joined the NRA needs to. It's our best defense against these liberal idiots. They are going to try to pass many new laws in the near future. It's all a very well thought out plan. Step by step they will come for our guns. I know many people who love their guns and hate the anti-gunners, but are not a member of the NRA nor do they do anything to stop them. If we do nothing they will take them. Joining is probably the easiest thing you can do to fight them. Please join!
Anybody who hasn't joined the NRA needs to. It's our best defense against these liberal idiots. They are going to try to pass many new laws in the near future. It's all a very well thought out plan. Step by step they will come for our guns. I know many people who love their guns and hate the anti-gunners, but are not a member of the NRA nor do they do anything to stop them. If we do nothing they will take them. Joining is probably the easiest thing you can do to fight them. Please join!
True. You hear over and over, about criminals that were arrested for possession of a gun, that they weren't allowed to have.
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got ya....and I hear ya
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