Greenwater...

[nikeholley]

Hey there...

Any new info on what is planned for the Greenwater/Pyramid area this year..??..

Snowparks, gates, road, trail, etc...

Thanks...

Nike

 

[xpspenziv]

Load up the truck with chains,get another snatch block,put a new cable on the winch,another 50ft chain,couple hundred feet of 1 1/2 spectra line, for all the 12%ers

 

[nikeholley]

Yah...

Load up the truck with chains,get another snatch block,put a new cable on the winch,another 50ft chain,couple hundred feet of 1 1/2 spectra line, for all the 12%ers

That's funny right there..!!..

 

[Snodawg]

That's funny right there..!!..

No. That's TRUE right there..!!..(Unfortunately)

 

[xpspenziv]

The only good thing about the 12% when its nasty is it keeps the thieves at the bottom. Its really not that bad if your prepared for it every time you go up the 70 road. Riding from the bottom of 70 sucks.

 

[TNTCOPP]

That and it is not nearly as crowded , especially when the road is bad, compared to before the bypass was put in. Used to be a lot of motorhomes, camper trailers and what-not. Not so much anymore.

The by-pass just takes a little common sense and preparation is all - and people that know how to drive it !

The only good thing about the 12% when its nasty is it keeps the thieves at the bottom. Its really not that bad if your prepared for it every time you go up the 70 road. Riding from the bottom of 70 sucks.

 

[ruffryder]

never been to the area, do you have to chain up all the time when it is bad?

 

[summit800]

Ive never chained up ever, but I do have a 4x4 with studds

 

[Ryanlilly]

never been to the area, do you have to chain up all the time when it is bad?

I usually do when its bad. I slid down the steep incline backwards one time when I lost traction, friggen scary! I was in 4 wheel also, so now I do just to be safe. Not to mention if you get stuck you block the whole road, it really sucks being "that guy"!

 

[xpspenziv]

depends on your ability,confidence and common sense. Haven't chained up but i always have them in the truck. I got studs all the way around also. The main thing is don't go to fast and don't stop. You don't want to loose momentum. The road turns into a 12% grade for little over a mile, its the initial hill thats squashes most comers confidence. What goes up must come down the other side. 12% down hill than a final 8% incline to the snow park.

 

[xpspenziv]

A buddy of mine takes his 32 ft class a and a 28ft enclosed up there.

hes nuts with no common sense thou. chained and unchained.

 

[Snodawg]

Several years back , I was "that guy". 1-ton dually 4x4 with 2-place enclosed. Studs on the front, chains on the rear. 1/2" of frozen rain on the road. Almost to the top when I started going backwards. The whole setup did a gradual turn to the left. I ended up with my front wheels of the downhill side and my trailer was in the ditch on the left hand side. So, I unhooked from the trailer, had several guys pushing on the front end so I was pointed uphill. Drove all the way to the top, turned around, drove down to the trailer and hooked back up, drove it to the bottom, turned around and made it to the snowpark in one piece. The road was just wet at the bottom but it was frozen at the top, but just looked wet. It was so slick up there you couldn't stand up on it for nothin'. Only blocked about 8-10 vehicles for about a half hour. I would rather not repeat that journey, wasn't much fun looking at my front tires off the asphalt on a cliff. I thought I was going over for sure.

 

[ruffryder]

Several years back , I was "that guy". 1-ton dually 4x4 with 2-place enclosed. Studs on the front, chains on the rear. 1/2" of frozen rain on the road. Almost to the top when I started going backwards. The whole setup did a gradual turn to the left. I ended up with my front wheels of the downhill side and my trailer was in the ditch on the left hand side. So, I unhooked from the trailer, had several guys pushing on the front end so I was pointed uphill. Drove all the way to the top, turned around, drove down to the trailer and hooked back up, drove it to the bottom, turned around and made it to the snowpark in one piece. The road was just wet at the bottom but it was frozen at the top, but just looked wet. It was so slick up there you couldn't stand up on it for nothin'. Only blocked about 8-10 vehicles for about a half hour. I would rather not repeat that journey, wasn't much fun looking at my front tires off the asphalt on a cliff. I thought I was going over for sure.

wow. If you had chains on all 4 do you think you would have made it fine?

Why does this area seem to get so much ice on the roads? I guess it is just a long ways off from any plowing and the snow / ice builds up more? Or is it that the road in starts at a lower elevation therefor they get more mixed precip?

Anyone got any pictures of the area? Might have to check it out before the season starts...

 

[xpspenziv]

The road in does start at a lower elevation. Sometimes they plow it down to the road leaving nothing but ice and a dusting in the morning. I think they should leave a little more on the road and let it get a little ruff, better traction. On my sled taxi, its in 4 hi 2nd gear at about 15-20 up the hill. aggressive wild country studded 31*8*15 on a 3/4 ton with 4.10 front and rear. limited rear and a 1 legger up front. i heard about you. Remember the class with the enclosed over the bank. That 1 took a while.

Last year. This guy lifted 4x4 with 4 place open with 4 sled coming out took the 20 mph to tight and the trailer stuck in the bank. you could hear him before we got there, he wore it down to the asphalt trying to pull the trailer threw the bank. They unloaded 2 sleds for a tow.NOPE didnt work. Told him comb down unhook trailer and get the truck out. easy done. unloaded the other 2 sleds and 4 of us moved the trailer tongue towards the center of the road and told him to back up to it and pull it wide. I was done dealing with this and had to get home to work so i got back in my truck and drove around him and his trailer like nothing. others helped and some didnt, but they were the smart ones who new how to get him out. The one guy that tried to go around my truck that almost hit the sleds on my sled deck. YUP another cowboy in a f350 with big tires and flaps a chip all the norm. Guess what???? nows he stuck. WELCOME TO THE ****K SHOW.

Common sense.

 

[rhino]

I agree with XPSPENZIV. They plow the road down to the pavement and then it melts during the day in the sun leaving a nice film of water. Then it freezes at night, and if we get a little precipitation that freezes. Then the next day the cycle starts again and eventually it turns into a hockey rink. Last year they didn't plow it much, because of funding I guess, and the road was fine. Have they ever sanded that hill? Sometimes it's like point and shoot hi marking to get to the top. It gets you tuned up for the rest of the day.

 

[xpspenziv]

Tuned up..hahahaha that's right.

there isn't nothing nerve racking after a good 12% and truck interaction. Ditch the sled but im not ditching my truck.

 

[Snodawg]

My ordeal happened when there was no snow on the road. It was wet black pavement. 1/2 way up the hill it turned to ice, but looked the same.
I don't think chains on the front would have done much. The chains on the rear were spinning like crazy, right down to the pavement. Kind of hard on chains. The chains I now use on my F250 (not the truck in the incident) are cleated. But I rarely ever use them, cuz 1) I have studded 35" Goodyear Dura-Trac's 2) I moved to eastern WA, so I don't have to drive up that stupid road anymore.

 

[ruffryder]

anyone got any pics?

 

[xpspenziv]

the best 1s i got. im not gonna post carnage.

 

[ruffryder]

the grade in that last pic looks nasty!!! lmao!!