Powderminer those are really interesting stats. I am not a fan of Romney at all but he would be 100 times better for American business(big and small) than Obama. In 2008 all I could think of was that out of a country of 300 million people this is the best we can do? Obama seems to have sold his supporters on the idea that they are going to get more back from the government than they put in. The government will never give someone a good life. I have never looked at someone on welfare and thought that looks like a good deal. You don't have to work but you live in poverty. In the past if you didn't work you starved. Being cold and hungry is a great incentive to get off your butt. We need to let people fail again. Unemployment insurance has turned into the new no shame welfare. Now that it's running out for good the 99 weekers are being put on Social Security Disability. That NEVER runs out.
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mblanken881
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If you think about it in the right frame of mind, it IS good for the human race. Think about it like deer, elk, moose, etc. The males fight for the females and the dominate one wins and mates with the female, ergo, passing on the dominate gene.
Same sex marriage is a natural way of weeding them out. Back in the day, it wasn't 'Socially Correct' to be gay, so gay men/women got married, had kids, and passed on the 'Gay' gene. This way, they will all stay to themselves, and they can't procreate, thus weeding out the gene. Unless, of course, the government lets them use their sperm/eggs to have babies.
And, plus, how do gay men and women getting married affect you? At least this way, they will no longer complain about it.
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PowderMiner
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You do realize it is very little about Jim and Fred or Shelly and Barbra being able to live happily ever after…
It will affect you when they sue your kids school for not teaching the correct form of gay (and other) materials approved by Chicago. Then the churches for not marrying them (because churches are bad, don’t u watch the news), then you work (evil corporations) for not putting up signs. It isn't this law that concerns me it is the next and the next, what will be forced on us in the next generation, sharia law, chip implants, barcodes, career assignments for your kids, etc...
It will affect you when they sue your kids school for not teaching the correct form of gay (and other) materials approved by Chicago. Then the churches for not marrying them (because churches are bad, don’t u watch the news), then you work (evil corporations) for not putting up signs. It isn't this law that concerns me it is the next and the next, what will be forced on us in the next generation, sharia law, chip implants, barcodes, career assignments for your kids, etc...
Freedom
The problem our country faces, is that most people only pay lip service to freedom. Freedom means choice: the freedom to be a homosexual, or not; the freedom to smoke marijuana, or not; the freedom to worship Satan, Jesus, Buddha, UFO's, rocks, or snow, or not. The role of government should only be to prevent me from infringing on your rights, or you on mine. Unfortunately, most people only want freedom for the things that they believe in. More unfortunate, most people are content to give up their freedoms on the pretext of "security". Try buying a box of pseudoephedrine. The pharmacy must keep a record of who buys pseudoephedrine on the off chance that they might make meth with it. Or trying buying Alcohol in Anchorage, better have your ID because they are required to ID every purchase to be sure you do not have a DUI conviction. The justification is safety and security. The cost is liberty.
The problem our country faces, is that most people only pay lip service to freedom. Freedom means choice: the freedom to be a homosexual, or not; the freedom to smoke marijuana, or not; the freedom to worship Satan, Jesus, Buddha, UFO's, rocks, or snow, or not. The role of government should only be to prevent me from infringing on your rights, or you on mine. Unfortunately, most people only want freedom for the things that they believe in. More unfortunate, most people are content to give up their freedoms on the pretext of "security". Try buying a box of pseudoephedrine. The pharmacy must keep a record of who buys pseudoephedrine on the off chance that they might make meth with it. Or trying buying Alcohol in Anchorage, better have your ID because they are required to ID every purchase to be sure you do not have a DUI conviction. The justification is safety and security. The cost is liberty.
Are you a Ron Paul fan?
I agree with the Isreal issue and this idiot. leaving Isreal out on an island is not smart at all.
I'm afraid Ron Paul is/was about 8-12 years before his time. He is definately NOT a 2012 republican.
Yep, the 2 party system stinks. Perot had the golden opportunity to squash this in 92 and he turned out to be a fraud and quitter obviously just pissed at Bush 1. His votes would have been Bush 1 votes. FACT!
The hypocrisy on both sides is sickening. Both sides make me wanna puke. Both sides are corporate elitists.
The post at the beginning of this page in size 7 was very well stated.
George Carlin WAS RIGHT. This election proved that.
Can we now stop blaming Bush 2 for this mess? He was/is an idiot but Jomama knew what he was getting into in 08. If he can't get us on the right track then quit and let Biden (who probably is a real leader) lead us.
I'm afraid Ron Paul is/was about 8-12 years before his time. He is definately NOT a 2012 republican.
Yep, the 2 party system stinks. Perot had the golden opportunity to squash this in 92 and he turned out to be a fraud and quitter obviously just pissed at Bush 1. His votes would have been Bush 1 votes. FACT!
The hypocrisy on both sides is sickening. Both sides make me wanna puke. Both sides are corporate elitists.
The post at the beginning of this page in size 7 was very well stated.
George Carlin WAS RIGHT. This election proved that.
Can we now stop blaming Bush 2 for this mess? He was/is an idiot but Jomama knew what he was getting into in 08. If he can't get us on the right track then quit and let Biden (who probably is a real leader) lead us.
All the scary stuff you're talking about has nothing to do with what we're talking about...
Your conspiracy theory rant is a separate issue from gay marriage & pot. They're going to sue schools anyhow, they're going to talk bad about churches anyhow... be afraid... be very afraid. (as you clearly are, you don't need our help!
)I bet you yap all the time about how the liberals are trying to take away your "freedoms"... but typical for someone who can't see the other side... you only care about YOUR freedoms. Someone else... well, F** them, they're not like you, so they don't matter.
Hypocrite Bullsh**.
I'm not gay, and I don't smoke weed, but oddly enough, I understand that FREEDOM is what our country is about, not mine, not yours, but ALL of ours.
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Republicans need to get COMPLETELY off social issues. Abortion is a total loser. Religion is a total loser. Music, video games and movies are all losers. Trying to get others to live the same way you do is a loser in any form. Like others have said if the Republicans are really for small government and personal freedom then they need to be universal on freedom. The government should have no opinion on what you do in your private life. I am much more a libertarian than Republican. But the nutty libertarian will never get elected. Putting the US on the gold standard, come on. Only have a military presence inside our own borders, come on. Republicans need to get the message out that what is good for business is good for everyone. Lower taxes for everyone are good for everyone. Where do you work? How does harming your boss or business where you work help you? Obama has this hard on for raising the top tax bracket from 35% to 39.5%. That will never effect the super wealthy like he says. The super wealthy make the real money off of capital gains and that is a different tax rate altogether.
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PowderMiner
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Hypocrite Bullsh**
Thank you, now you understand what I’m talking about. I am frustrated with at gay activists (at least the ones I have been around) who are extremely hypocritical and over the top way beyond the desire for a “simple” freedom (oxymoron). (There are more issues than just this one that apply the same principal)
I think the pertinence to Snowmobiling would be in the land use arena; a lot of the same principals apply. It is the same mantra and winner takes all or spite, I think our President said revenge, activism that is generally perfected from the left.
Since you disclosed your status; I will tell you that I have donated a lot of money to a gay family member for legal support and attempted justice (Montana Supreme Court Case, essentially “divorce” legalities) that was conveniently ignored by the left and GLBT crowd.
I’m sorry you picked a team and it is your ideas about what is freedom; all or nothing right?
Yea I do yap, it is called conversation… and at least I admit it and have a chance at an open mind. Good luck on your part.
Thank you, now you understand what I’m talking about. I am frustrated with at gay activists (at least the ones I have been around) who are extremely hypocritical and over the top way beyond the desire for a “simple” freedom (oxymoron). (There are more issues than just this one that apply the same principal)
I think the pertinence to Snowmobiling would be in the land use arena; a lot of the same principals apply. It is the same mantra and winner takes all or spite, I think our President said revenge, activism that is generally perfected from the left.
Since you disclosed your status; I will tell you that I have donated a lot of money to a gay family member for legal support and attempted justice (Montana Supreme Court Case, essentially “divorce” legalities) that was conveniently ignored by the left and GLBT crowd.
I’m sorry you picked a team and it is your ideas about what is freedom; all or nothing right?
Yea I do yap, it is called conversation… and at least I admit it and have a chance at an open mind. Good luck on your part.
Well, that sure has a different tone than the last post... here I'll agree with you in general. I'm not just calling YOU a hypocrite, I'm saying that applies to all the people who cry "freedom & liberty"... then try to take away from someone else (land issues are a GREAT example of just one very small piece of the BS from the left) It's not "my" ideas about freedom, that's exactly the point, it's not what ONE person feels is freedom. Freedom is allowing people FREEDOM, even when it's something you wouldn't do or don't want, as long as it doesn't harm you.
I haven't picked a side, I very specifically am on NEITHER side. Until the right can get over trying to tell others how to live & trying to restrict the freedoms of others, I'll vote their direction mostly (I vote 3rd sometimes), but won't call myself "right" in general. Yap, talk... whatever, that's what all this is, it's the interwebsz man, it's all yapping!
When you start going on about the conspiracy crap as if "the gays" are the root of all that though... c'mon man, you know darn well that's BS.
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As a Canadian, I think Obama was the better of the 2 choices. I'm not saying he's the best possible choice, but the better of the 2 that were presented.
I would imagine that the economy coming to the forefront of everyone's mind, things will have to change. I suspect to avoid the hyper inflation that MatteMurder speaks of, there will have to be heavy import taxes created, and tax offsets for startups which actually make something of value that is currently being bought from some offshore place. If we don't add value to the exports here, we aren't adding value to our economy.
The concept of having to teach gay related stuff in school and pot being out there legally isn't the end of the world in my eyes. The more basic concept that we now can't do anything without every user group being in agreement means that we have stopped progressing. Think of the power consumption problem.. We used to need more, and build a dam, or a nuke plant, or a coal plant.. And make more. Now it seems like pushing something of that scale through is just about impossible. Big bridges, other infrastucture projects are so filled with legalese and concern for other things (like the enviroment, fishes, ect).. That it makes it so cost prohibitive to ever be in a position to actually produce more here. It really is going to be a long uphill struggle ahead of us, and no single president can fix this impending economic change that we are all going to be facing, Canadian or american.. We are in this together.
I think it's going to be interesting to see how things pan out in the sense that as the currency loses value, things of need like food and shelter will become the true currency. Going to more of a barter system is almost the only logical outcome in my small mind.
I think we will all come together out of this and focus more on what is more need and less want, and we will all realize what those needs are. Those who realize it sooner will be likely better off than those who hold onto their wants and extend themselves beyond their means.
Lets get through this!
I would imagine that the economy coming to the forefront of everyone's mind, things will have to change. I suspect to avoid the hyper inflation that MatteMurder speaks of, there will have to be heavy import taxes created, and tax offsets for startups which actually make something of value that is currently being bought from some offshore place. If we don't add value to the exports here, we aren't adding value to our economy.
The concept of having to teach gay related stuff in school and pot being out there legally isn't the end of the world in my eyes. The more basic concept that we now can't do anything without every user group being in agreement means that we have stopped progressing. Think of the power consumption problem.. We used to need more, and build a dam, or a nuke plant, or a coal plant.. And make more. Now it seems like pushing something of that scale through is just about impossible. Big bridges, other infrastucture projects are so filled with legalese and concern for other things (like the enviroment, fishes, ect).. That it makes it so cost prohibitive to ever be in a position to actually produce more here. It really is going to be a long uphill struggle ahead of us, and no single president can fix this impending economic change that we are all going to be facing, Canadian or american.. We are in this together.
I think it's going to be interesting to see how things pan out in the sense that as the currency loses value, things of need like food and shelter will become the true currency. Going to more of a barter system is almost the only logical outcome in my small mind.
I think we will all come together out of this and focus more on what is more need and less want, and we will all realize what those needs are. Those who realize it sooner will be likely better off than those who hold onto their wants and extend themselves beyond their means.
Lets get through this!
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CatRpillar
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Doesnt matter who was in office after Bush. The flush handle on the toilet wqs hit before Bammer got in there. Sprinkling fairy dust on it aint gonna save things when too many are spending too much for too long, and the system is like a big Ponzi scheme. Low interest rates + excess debt + QE3 = fiscal cliff.
The only thing saving it in the short term is that the US dollar somehow got to be the global currency and the sheer volume of it out there makes QE not immediately suicidal. The US has a safety net that no other country has but thats going to tear too.
fear
any decision decided by fear will fail. it is only a matter of time.its unfortunate that most of our politicians make decisions for the country based on the fear of whether there going to keep there position or not. i say if you're a incumbent you're gone. as i see it there hasn't been a politician that has stood out for the freedoms of this country or me in a long time. maybe once they learn that bullshi* isn't acceptable and they lose there position, the next guy will take it a little more seriously. ALSO TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF POLITICS AN YOU WILL GET SOMEONE THAT ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THE COUNTRY AT HALF THE COST. SG
any decision decided by fear will fail. it is only a matter of time.its unfortunate that most of our politicians make decisions for the country based on the fear of whether there going to keep there position or not. i say if you're a incumbent you're gone. as i see it there hasn't been a politician that has stood out for the freedoms of this country or me in a long time. maybe once they learn that bullshi* isn't acceptable and they lose there position, the next guy will take it a little more seriously. ALSO TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF POLITICS AN YOU WILL GET SOMEONE THAT ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT THE COUNTRY AT HALF THE COST. SG
"If I were king for a day, my first order of business would be to enact a law stating that anyone who does not contribute "as in pay tax directly to the government" and who still draws aid from that government dispite not having a contibution "as in welfare/unemployment/foodstamps/etc" would not be allowed to vote."
Totally agree. I think this was the reason for the founders stipulating that "landowners" had the right to vote. Affects those that contribute or own land in much more negative ways a majority of the time.
It's time to stand up for what's right regardless if it's Politically Correct!1
Totally agree. I think this was the reason for the founders stipulating that "landowners" had the right to vote. Affects those that contribute or own land in much more negative ways a majority of the time.
It's time to stand up for what's right regardless if it's Politically Correct!1
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