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snobunny21
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I work in a hospital and get exposed to it just about everyday so I get flu shot and have never had the flu since I have been getting the shot.
Flu Vacinations
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Superjag
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It seems we have one of these here
Awesome. Am I the guy on the left or the right?
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The Novel A/H1N1 virus also known as the Swine Flu will affect you between now and Fall/Winter of 2009! This is 100% FACT!
Whether it’s a virus with a high death rate, a deadly vaccine forcibly administered to the public, a reason to declare martial law and crack down on those who can see or any number of possibilities, it will affect your world as you know it.
If you can take yourself out of the trap for a moment, sit back and watch as the powers that be - bait mainstream media, independent media and the socially collective thought, you will see that they are ramping up to turn this fall into a disaster that they can manipulate into one of the worlds greatest grabs for power and what might possibly be the worlds greatest deception.
The powers that be use verbiage in the news that incites emotion in it’s readers just like a good author can get his or her audience to cry for a fictional character in a book and just like a good author, the powers that be leave the world sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for the next word as if their very lives depend on it.
Take these recent headlines as an example of how they are ramping up their language to get the whole world worried/scared about the coming flu and ready to take their pharma vaccine.
Headline: Everyone will get vaccine against swine flu
Quote: “The NHS is preparing to vaccinate the entire population against swine flu after the disease claimed the life of its first healthy British patient.”
Quote: “The UK government has ordered enough vaccine to cover the entire population. GPs are being told to prepare for a nationwide vaccination campaign.”
Quote: “He said surgeries would be aiming to inoculate about 30 people an hour in a “military-style operation”.”
Quote: When the new vaccine for swine flu arrives in Britain, regulators said this weekend, it could be approved for use in just five days. (The path of a popular medicine from the laboratory to the chemist or doctor’s surgery can involve years of clinical trials on a select group of patients.)
Link: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6689955.ece
Headline: New flu “unstoppable”, WHO says, calls for vaccine
Quote: Saying the new H1N1 virus is "unstoppable", the World Health Organization gave drug makers a full go-ahead to manufacture vaccines against the pandemic influenza strain.
Quote: Every country will need to vaccinate citizens against the swine flu virus.
Quote: Several reports showed the new virus attacks people differently than seasonal flu -- affecting younger people, the severely obese and seemingly healthy adults, and causing disease deep in the lungs.
Headline: New flu resembles feared 1918 virus
Quote: The new H1N1 influenza virus bears a disturbing resemblance to the virus strain that caused the 1918 flu pandemic, with a greater ability to infect the lungs than common seasonal flu viruses, researchers reported on Monday.
Quote: In addition, they found that people who survived the 1918 pandemic seem to have extra immune protection against the virus, again confirming the work of other researchers.
Link: http://www.reuters.com/article/heal...edType=RSS&feedName=healthNews&rpc=22&sp=true
Headline: Firms, School and Churches rush to cope with outbreak
Quote: "Guidance is being given to all store and personnel managers who are required to report all actual and suspected cases of the illness to our dedicated helpline, and these incidents are then evaluated case by case."
(Authors Note: Notice how the department of health in this country is asking workers to report/nark on each other for suspected and actual cases of the flu)
Link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/14/swine-flu-outbreak-emergency-plans
Headline: A sore throat… and 48 hours later Chloe was dead: Swine flu kills healthy girl aged six and a doctor
Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Christmas--virus-reaches-Downing-Street.html
Headline: Study: 1918 flu survivors seem immune to swine flu
Quote: "I'm very concerned because clearly the (swine flu) virus is different from seasonal influenza," said study lead author Yoshishiro Kawaoka. "It's a lot more severe."
Quote: Tests in monkeys, mice and ferrets show that the swine flu thrives in greater numbers all over the respiratory system, including the lungs, and causes lesions, instead of staying in the nose and throat like seasonal flu.
Link: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5imwjiBY0meFFZzpIJ2Ne7JOOyK1wD99DS9VO0
Headline: Obama warns of swine flu return in the Fall
Quote: The Obama administration warned Americans on Thursday to be ready for an aggressive return of the swine flu virus in the fall,
Quote: “The potential for a significant outbreak in the fall is looming,” President Obama said.
Quote: With good planning, “we may end up averting a crisis,” Mr. Obama said. “That’s our fervent hope.
Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/health/10flu.html?bl&ex=1247284800&en=7d10bb085fb2733a&ei=5087
As you can see there has been an extreme language shift from what we’ve heard since the beginning of this outbreak and that’s that this was the normal flu, nobody worry, nobody do anything, life as normal, keep society and money coming into the US as normal, blah blah blah.
But wait! What’s this? Haven’t you wondered why every state in the US has been at their highest level of pandemic flu preparedness (which allows them to declare martial law at a moments notice, bypassing the normal needs and requirements being met) since the beginning and why countries are closing schools and businesses? Last time I checked, the world has never closed schools, shut down movie theaters and public gatherings because it was flu season nor have we implemented statewide preparedness issues.
And it’s kind of funny how Mexico was erupting into a civil war with gang activity but then a flu appeared and closed everything down, the military issued martial law and forced all activity to stop. But wait there’s more! The US happened to be having Tea Parties and localized collective uprisings to the atrocities that were/are happening within our borders and against our citizens until a week-long scare of a deadly flu shut everything down and focused (baited) our brains to look elsewhere.
Now don’t get me wrong, I believe this flu is the real deal. I also believe through documented research that the earth goes through cycles where viruses become more virulent and I believe that we are in one of those cycles now but do not let yourself be baited into a trap that stops you from surviving.
You will see disruption in your daily life as this flu returns in our fall and winter seasons (In the Americas). Whether there be truth to the dangers as they are represented to us or whether the powers that be use the bait to bring about even more devious things, I do not know.
But you must be prepared for these disruptions.
What should you do? You should follow through with your preparedness planning and prepare to stop at a moments notice, close up shop, stay at home and wait until you can get your eyes and ears on some fact about what’s going on.
What should you not do? You should not let linguistic professionals (TPTB Psychologists and behavioral experts) bait you into acting one way or another if it goes against the grain of what you know to be best for you and your group.
The safety of humanity has always revolved around the “What if”. You wear your seatbelt because “What if” you got into a deadly accident, store food because what if the supply was interrupted…
This working theory is simple yet effective but has been engineered out of today’s western society. You don’t buy adhesive bandages because you plan on getting a scrape but in the same note, society has taught people that it’s extreme to buy an extra 2 weeks of food. Don’t let this negative stereotype keep you from surviving and do not let the safety and survival of your group be compromised because the preparedness safety belt is considered taboo.
You need to be prepared to blanket yourself from the world when disruption hits you between now and winter and close up shop until you know that you are safe to run the risks.
How do you do this?
Store enough food/water, medicine and materials for 1 to 3 months of complete isolation with 1 month being the worst and 3 months being the best.
Find areas of least-baited news to gather information from (Internet, Ham and Shortwave radio are the only ways to get your news but beware that these get baited as well).
If it is safe to: Do local reconnaissance to note how “over run” the hospitals or shops really are without going inside to risk infection or capture.
Be prepared to quarantine yourself or others in your family to keep the rest of your group safe (read my previous article on Quarantine for ways to do this).
Have your doctor write you a sick note and do not use it until you need it.
Have your doctor prescribe enough anti-virals against the current flu and get those scripts filled.
Prepare a list of actions/triggers that will cause you to react by isolating yourself.
Do not tell anyone who doesn’t have the same mindset as you, beyond a shadow of doubt, what your thoughts are on the situation or how you plan to react. Many people will turn on you when they have been brainwashed into thinking “it’s for your own good” (More on this in another article).
Prepare ways to keep the other members of your group (possibly women and children) busy and not feeling cabin fever.
These are just a few of the things that you need to add to your preparedness schedule. But the bottom line is that you need to be ready for when (not if) this affects you this fall and not to risk your own life or the lives of your family by arrogantly or ignorantly believing the bait that media and the powers that be give to you.
NOW GO PISS UP A ROPE
Whether it’s a virus with a high death rate, a deadly vaccine forcibly administered to the public, a reason to declare martial law and crack down on those who can see or any number of possibilities, it will affect your world as you know it.
If you can take yourself out of the trap for a moment, sit back and watch as the powers that be - bait mainstream media, independent media and the socially collective thought, you will see that they are ramping up to turn this fall into a disaster that they can manipulate into one of the worlds greatest grabs for power and what might possibly be the worlds greatest deception.
The powers that be use verbiage in the news that incites emotion in it’s readers just like a good author can get his or her audience to cry for a fictional character in a book and just like a good author, the powers that be leave the world sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for the next word as if their very lives depend on it.
Take these recent headlines as an example of how they are ramping up their language to get the whole world worried/scared about the coming flu and ready to take their pharma vaccine.
Headline: Everyone will get vaccine against swine flu
Quote: “The NHS is preparing to vaccinate the entire population against swine flu after the disease claimed the life of its first healthy British patient.”
Quote: “The UK government has ordered enough vaccine to cover the entire population. GPs are being told to prepare for a nationwide vaccination campaign.”
Quote: “He said surgeries would be aiming to inoculate about 30 people an hour in a “military-style operation”.”
Quote: When the new vaccine for swine flu arrives in Britain, regulators said this weekend, it could be approved for use in just five days. (The path of a popular medicine from the laboratory to the chemist or doctor’s surgery can involve years of clinical trials on a select group of patients.)
Link: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6689955.ece
Headline: New flu “unstoppable”, WHO says, calls for vaccine
Quote: Saying the new H1N1 virus is "unstoppable", the World Health Organization gave drug makers a full go-ahead to manufacture vaccines against the pandemic influenza strain.
Quote: Every country will need to vaccinate citizens against the swine flu virus.
Quote: Several reports showed the new virus attacks people differently than seasonal flu -- affecting younger people, the severely obese and seemingly healthy adults, and causing disease deep in the lungs.
Headline: New flu resembles feared 1918 virus
Quote: The new H1N1 influenza virus bears a disturbing resemblance to the virus strain that caused the 1918 flu pandemic, with a greater ability to infect the lungs than common seasonal flu viruses, researchers reported on Monday.
Quote: In addition, they found that people who survived the 1918 pandemic seem to have extra immune protection against the virus, again confirming the work of other researchers.
Link: http://www.reuters.com/article/heal...edType=RSS&feedName=healthNews&rpc=22&sp=true
Headline: Firms, School and Churches rush to cope with outbreak
Quote: "Guidance is being given to all store and personnel managers who are required to report all actual and suspected cases of the illness to our dedicated helpline, and these incidents are then evaluated case by case."
(Authors Note: Notice how the department of health in this country is asking workers to report/nark on each other for suspected and actual cases of the flu)
Link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/14/swine-flu-outbreak-emergency-plans
Headline: A sore throat… and 48 hours later Chloe was dead: Swine flu kills healthy girl aged six and a doctor
Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Christmas--virus-reaches-Downing-Street.html
Headline: Study: 1918 flu survivors seem immune to swine flu
Quote: "I'm very concerned because clearly the (swine flu) virus is different from seasonal influenza," said study lead author Yoshishiro Kawaoka. "It's a lot more severe."
Quote: Tests in monkeys, mice and ferrets show that the swine flu thrives in greater numbers all over the respiratory system, including the lungs, and causes lesions, instead of staying in the nose and throat like seasonal flu.
Link: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5imwjiBY0meFFZzpIJ2Ne7JOOyK1wD99DS9VO0
Headline: Obama warns of swine flu return in the Fall
Quote: The Obama administration warned Americans on Thursday to be ready for an aggressive return of the swine flu virus in the fall,
Quote: “The potential for a significant outbreak in the fall is looming,” President Obama said.
Quote: With good planning, “we may end up averting a crisis,” Mr. Obama said. “That’s our fervent hope.
Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/health/10flu.html?bl&ex=1247284800&en=7d10bb085fb2733a&ei=5087
As you can see there has been an extreme language shift from what we’ve heard since the beginning of this outbreak and that’s that this was the normal flu, nobody worry, nobody do anything, life as normal, keep society and money coming into the US as normal, blah blah blah.
But wait! What’s this? Haven’t you wondered why every state in the US has been at their highest level of pandemic flu preparedness (which allows them to declare martial law at a moments notice, bypassing the normal needs and requirements being met) since the beginning and why countries are closing schools and businesses? Last time I checked, the world has never closed schools, shut down movie theaters and public gatherings because it was flu season nor have we implemented statewide preparedness issues.
And it’s kind of funny how Mexico was erupting into a civil war with gang activity but then a flu appeared and closed everything down, the military issued martial law and forced all activity to stop. But wait there’s more! The US happened to be having Tea Parties and localized collective uprisings to the atrocities that were/are happening within our borders and against our citizens until a week-long scare of a deadly flu shut everything down and focused (baited) our brains to look elsewhere.
Now don’t get me wrong, I believe this flu is the real deal. I also believe through documented research that the earth goes through cycles where viruses become more virulent and I believe that we are in one of those cycles now but do not let yourself be baited into a trap that stops you from surviving.
You will see disruption in your daily life as this flu returns in our fall and winter seasons (In the Americas). Whether there be truth to the dangers as they are represented to us or whether the powers that be use the bait to bring about even more devious things, I do not know.
But you must be prepared for these disruptions.
What should you do? You should follow through with your preparedness planning and prepare to stop at a moments notice, close up shop, stay at home and wait until you can get your eyes and ears on some fact about what’s going on.
What should you not do? You should not let linguistic professionals (TPTB Psychologists and behavioral experts) bait you into acting one way or another if it goes against the grain of what you know to be best for you and your group.
The safety of humanity has always revolved around the “What if”. You wear your seatbelt because “What if” you got into a deadly accident, store food because what if the supply was interrupted…
This working theory is simple yet effective but has been engineered out of today’s western society. You don’t buy adhesive bandages because you plan on getting a scrape but in the same note, society has taught people that it’s extreme to buy an extra 2 weeks of food. Don’t let this negative stereotype keep you from surviving and do not let the safety and survival of your group be compromised because the preparedness safety belt is considered taboo.
You need to be prepared to blanket yourself from the world when disruption hits you between now and winter and close up shop until you know that you are safe to run the risks.
How do you do this?
Store enough food/water, medicine and materials for 1 to 3 months of complete isolation with 1 month being the worst and 3 months being the best.
Find areas of least-baited news to gather information from (Internet, Ham and Shortwave radio are the only ways to get your news but beware that these get baited as well).
If it is safe to: Do local reconnaissance to note how “over run” the hospitals or shops really are without going inside to risk infection or capture.
Be prepared to quarantine yourself or others in your family to keep the rest of your group safe (read my previous article on Quarantine for ways to do this).
Have your doctor write you a sick note and do not use it until you need it.
Have your doctor prescribe enough anti-virals against the current flu and get those scripts filled.
Prepare a list of actions/triggers that will cause you to react by isolating yourself.
Do not tell anyone who doesn’t have the same mindset as you, beyond a shadow of doubt, what your thoughts are on the situation or how you plan to react. Many people will turn on you when they have been brainwashed into thinking “it’s for your own good” (More on this in another article).
Prepare ways to keep the other members of your group (possibly women and children) busy and not feeling cabin fever.
These are just a few of the things that you need to add to your preparedness schedule. But the bottom line is that you need to be ready for when (not if) this affects you this fall and not to risk your own life or the lives of your family by arrogantly or ignorantly believing the bait that media and the powers that be give to you.
NOW GO PISS UP A ROPE
These Vacines are how Zomies are created!
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Superjag
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How do you do this?
Store enough food/water, medicine and materials for 1 to 3 months of complete isolation with 1 month being the worst and 3 months being the best.
Don't worry I still have my stash from the Y2K "disaster".
Have your doctor prescribe enough anti-virals against the current flu and get those scripts filled.
Aren't these the same doctors who are trying to turn me into a sheep with their liberal agendas and unnecessary "vaccines"? Now I'm supposed to trust them?
Prepare ways to keep the other members of your group (possibly women and children) busy and not feeling cabin fever.
Don't worry, I'll get 'em started on churnin' up some butter right away! Or maybe birthin' some more young'uns.
In the future, if you quote someone else's intellectual property, at least have the courtesy to give them credit for it. If anybody wants to read H2's source material in it's entirety, it can be found here:
www.stevequayle.com/News.../090715.fall.2009.virus.html
Or, Google Steve Quayle, He's pretty much a certified nut-job. Alleges that we killed a 12' giant during the conflict in Afghanistan, and that giants are the offspring of fallen angels. Why wouldn't you trust this guy to make your family's medical decisions?
I'm still waiting to hear about your 300 hours of "research", and I've still got $100 on the table. Should be easy money for you.
These Vacines are how Zomies are created!
It's true. My wife got the vaccine and ate the neighbors' dog as soon as she got home. But she didn't get the flu. Weird.
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no sh1t ....forgot the link ......oh good for you ..everybody stand together for the official golf clap
ill never get one everyone i know thats gotten one gets sick for a week when they get it and they never get sick without it so whats the point
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kssnow987
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Dr. Oz and Oprah....for real...Who knows if he's a real Dr. and if Oprah is a real person. I'll get my medical advise elsewhere, no offense Fifty.
Swampy, you reference "90,000 MDs, Physicians and surgeons, nutritionists,phds and naturalpathic physicians who compose the world wide alternative naturalpathic and holistic medical community". That number represents less than 10% of the practicing physicians IN THIS COUNTRY ALONE. (AMA states that there are approximately 950,000 practicing physiians in the US). Add in the physicians in the rest of the world, and now you are down to a fraction of your original percentage. Oh, and your other "source" is a website dedicated to proving vaccines unnecessary. I'm sure they are objective.
What do percentages have to do with facts, just because the biggest percentage wish to follow the same people who gave us the social security,federal reserve,income tax, fannie mae, freddie mack, tarp and ballouts and the FDA which denys americans cancer treatments that actually works. Here is a list of some of the many celebraties who had to leave this country to actually cure their cancer.
• Elizabeth Taylor
• Cher
• Princess Haja of Jordan
• Siegfried and Roy
• Suzanne Somers
• Jennifer Lopez (who financed her aunt’s successful cancer treatment in Germany)
• Jack Cassidy (the bass player from the Jefferson Airplane rock group)
• George Hamilton
• William Holden
• Anthony Quinn
Suzanne Somers had surgery and radiation in America for her breast cancer in 2001. Naturally her doctors wanted her to follow up these treatments with highly toxic chemotherapy. They were appalled when she said “no.” Instead, she opted for mistletoe, a German herbal therapy that worked well for her.
I already mentioned President Ronald Reagan’s May 1985 trip to Germany for cancer treatment. Reagan chose Germany because of Dr. Nieper’s reputation as the No. 1 cancer doctor in the world.
By the way, something really odd happened around the time of Reagan’s trip to Dr. Nieper’s cancer clinic. The National Cancer Institute, part of the American cancer establishment, had published a pamphlet purporting to warn the public about how to recognize a cancer “quack.” One of the red flags for identifying a “quack” was: “Beware of any doctor who links cancer to diet.
But President Reagan had to change his diet after his treatment in Germany for cancer. Dr. Nieper told him it was necessary. And that’s when America’s cancer establishment withdrew the ridiculous claim that cancer has nothing to do with diet! I suspect President Reagan’s experience had something to do with their change of mind.
All you have shown is a couple of sites to support your position that don't actually claim that there is no chance of problems with the vaccine.
Your medical community is about to face a much worse calimaty as your antibiotics are about to become worthless and if they refuse to accept the natural therapies the loss of life will be much worse than a pandemic.
I'll put up my $100 to your $100 that we get a ratio of at least 10 to 1 in favor of the vaccine.
Won't challange you on that, justshows how many sheeple are in the practice. Swampy
What do percentages have to do with facts, just because the biggest percentage wish to follow the same people who gave us the social security,federal reserve,income tax, fannie mae, freddie mack, tarp and ballouts and the FDA which denys americans cancer treatments that actually works. Here is a list of some of the many celebraties who had to leave this country to actually cure their cancer.
• Elizabeth Taylor
• Cher
• Princess Haja of Jordan
• Siegfried and Roy
• Suzanne Somers
• Jennifer Lopez (who financed her aunt’s successful cancer treatment in Germany)
• Jack Cassidy (the bass player from the Jefferson Airplane rock group)
• George Hamilton
• William Holden
• Anthony Quinn
Suzanne Somers had surgery and radiation in America for her breast cancer in 2001. Naturally her doctors wanted her to follow up these treatments with highly toxic chemotherapy. They were appalled when she said “no.” Instead, she opted for mistletoe, a German herbal therapy that worked well for her.
I already mentioned President Ronald Reagan’s May 1985 trip to Germany for cancer treatment. Reagan chose Germany because of Dr. Nieper’s reputation as the No. 1 cancer doctor in the world.
By the way, something really odd happened around the time of Reagan’s trip to Dr. Nieper’s cancer clinic. The National Cancer Institute, part of the American cancer establishment, had published a pamphlet purporting to warn the public about how to recognize a cancer “quack.” One of the red flags for identifying a “quack” was: “Beware of any doctor who links cancer to diet.
But President Reagan had to change his diet after his treatment in Germany for cancer. Dr. Nieper told him it was necessary. And that’s when America’s cancer establishment withdrew the ridiculous claim that cancer has nothing to do with diet! I suspect President Reagan’s experience had something to do with their change of mind.
All you have shown is a couple of sites to support your position that don't actually claim that there is no chance of problems with the vaccine.
Your medical community is about to face a much worse calimaty as your antibiotics are about to become worthless and if they refuse to accept the natural therapies the loss of life will be much worse than a pandemic.
I'll put up my $100 to your $100 that we get a ratio of at least 10 to 1 in favor of the vaccine.
Won't challange you on that, justshows how many sheeple are in the practice. Swampy
I never use to get one. Did this year to protect the baby that will be here next month. Right before sled season. YAY! I should have planned better.
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kssnow987
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Oh that's not good, You might have to get it amputated now, I've read the horror stories on here
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Superjag
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I'll put up my $100 to your $100 that we get a ratio of at least 10 to 1 in favor of the vaccine.
Won't challange you on that, justshows how many sheeple are in the practice. Swampy
Swampy, that is exactly my point. Have you even been reading any of this? Go back to my first post. Read it carefully. Now read the rest of them. Nowhere to I state that the flu vaccine has no risks. Nor do I state that it is for everybody. In fact, I believe my very first answer begins with "It depends..."
All I have said from the beginning is that the vast majority of medical professionals are in agreement that the benefits of the flu vaccine outweigh the risks. With that information in hand, and any other information they deem to be relevant, people can make their own choices whether it's right for them and their families. Personally, when it comes to my kid's health, I'll trust the opinion of nine over the opinion of one, but that's just me. I understand not everybody sees it that way.
I will say this, if you truly believe that 90% of the medical field are "sheeple", well, then I guess there's no arguing with you, because you clearly know more than 9 out of 10 people who actually went to school and earned a medical degree. After all, you have Elizabeth Taylor and Cher to make your case for you.
It's true. That's the first sign of onsetting Zombie-ism. Or maybe you're turning into a sheep? Do you suddenly have the urge to graze?
Either way, I'd be very worried if I were you.
Swampy, that is exactly my point. Have you even been reading any of this? Go back to my first post. Read it carefully. Now read the rest of them. Nowhere to I state that the flu vaccine has no risks. Nor do I state that it is for everybody. In fact, I believe my very first answer begins with "It depends..."
All I have said from the beginning is that the vast majority of medical professionals are in agreement that the benefits of the flu vaccine outweigh the risks. With that information in hand, and any other information they deem to be relevant, people can make their own choices whether it's right for them and their families. Personally, when it comes to my kid's health, I'll trust the opinion of nine over the opinion of one, but that's just me. I understand not everybody sees it that way.
I will say this, if you truly believe that 90% of the medical field are "sheeple", well, then I guess there's no arguing with you, because you clearly know more than 9 out of 10 people who actually went to school and earned a medical degree. After all, you have Elizabeth Taylor and Cher to make your case for you.
It's true. That's the first sign of onsetting Zombie-ism. Or maybe you're turning into a sheep? Do you suddenly have the urge to graze?
Either way, I'd be very worried if I were you.
Maybe I was a little hard on the doctors many probably are to busy fighting the gov, lawyers and their patients to study nutrition fully but numbers are meaningless when a profession has a government controlled monoply and serious consequences for crossing the controllers, the same people who gave you the federal reserve, income tax, social security, fda, interstate commerce commission, forced bussing. school lunch program, war on poverty etc, etc. And there were more names and they were "CURED OF CANCER" without and in spite of the fda or the AMA. No matter what you would like to believe it makes no sense to use a vaccine which is shown to be more dangerous than the illness you are trying to control. I think the last stastic I saw on Sunday is 1 in 91 children are now born with autism, they say the cause is still unknown, I guess they think it is rocket science. I will keep posting articles in hopes it will stop at least one person from putting their child into this crapshoot. Here is another one. Swampy
Headline Story • •
Dr. Blaylock: Vaccine Dangers to Pregnant Women and Small Children
Monday, October 12, 2009 11:12 AM
By Dr. Russell Blaylock
As we enter the winter season, the nation’s attention is riveted on the first pandemic of this century caused by the H1N1 swine influenza virus. All authorities agree that this is one of the mildest flu virus seasons in recorded history, with fewer deaths and fewer hospitalizations than in the last two flu seasons. The media has inundated the public with stories of children dying and being hospitalized, yet the CDC states that fewer children have died this year than during the last two flu seasons.
Despite this favorable report, health officials from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have specifically targeted the following people for the first round of the swine flu vaccine:
• Pregnant women
• Children aged six months to 18 years of age
Over the past ten years I have been studying the effects of immune stimulation on the developing child’s brain and have written and had published eight papers for peer-reviewed journals on this subject. I have also lectured on my findings before a number of medical groups. Based on these studies, I have significant reservations concerning the proposal to vaccinate pregnant women and small children with this vaccine, as well as seasonal flu vaccines.
Based on CDC recommendations. Children under the age of ten are to get two seasonal flu vaccines and two swine flu vaccines. They also recommend that children under age five years get the pneumococcal vaccine as well.
We are told by a breathless media that 36 pregnant women have died from this flu, which is a terrible tragedy in itself, but should not be the basis of a draconian vaccination program that might endanger more pregnant women and their babies than the H1N1 virus itself. It is ironic that when asked how many pregnant women died in previous flu seasons, the CDC officials scratched their heads and stated that they had not been keeping records.
To put a pregnant woman’s risk in perspective, according to health statistics, only one in 300,000 pregnant women are at risk of getting so sick they would need hospitalization, even for hydration. What this means to the pregnant women is that her risk of becoming seriously ill is an extremely small fraction of one percent. Stated differently, there is a 99.99 percent chance she will get through the flu season fine.
So, what are the risks associated with this vaccine? There is compelling research that shows that stimulating a pregnant animal during mid-term pregnancy dramatically increases the risk of the newborn having autistic or schizophrenic behavior as it ages or reaches adulthood. The risk is increased in the order of 14-fold, which is tremendous.
We know that women who get the flu during pregnancy have a similar increase risk of their child developing autism or schizophrenia. At first, you may assume that the flu virus entering the baby’s brain would cause the effect, but careful research found that the virus does not enter the baby’s brain. Rather, it is immune cytokines from the mother’s immune reaction to the virus that causes the problem. Unlike the flu virus, the offending cytokine passes through the placenta and damages the developing brain of the baby. In essence, they found that anything that stimulated the mother’s immune system could raise the risk of autism and schizophrenia in the baby. To show that it is not the virus they stimulated the pregnant animal’s immune system with special chemicals alone and got the same effect.
Another set of studies found that stimulating the mother’s immune system during pregnancy not only increased the baby’s risk of having a seizure, but increased seizure risk even when the child became an adult. So we see that activating immunity, as with vaccination, can significantly raise the risk of your child having a seizure, even extending into adulthood.
Its is also known that stimulating the mother’s immune system during pregnancy can trigger preclampsia in the mother and hypertension in the baby, when the baby becomes an adult. The bottom line is vaccinating a pregnant women is vary hazardous to the mother’s health as well as the baby.
At this point you may ask—but if a natural flu infection can cause this as well as vaccination, shouldn’t we protect pregnant women by vaccination? If the vaccine was effective you might make that conclusion, but there is no evidence the vaccine has any effectiveness. Pregnant women have a state of immune suppression and vaccines are notorious for not working in immune suppressed people.
Even more important is the fact that a woman’s risk of getting the flu and having the genetic risk factors for autism or schizophrenia is small overall, but if you vaccinate all pregnant women, as the CDC is calling for, you will have a large number of babies affected by autism, schizophrenia or seizures because they will all have had intense immune stimulation by the vaccine.
Humans have a long period of intense brain development that occurs after birth. The most intense period of brain development is during the first two years of life, but for critical areas of the brain used for higher brain function, this can extend to 27 years of age. Repetitive stimulation of the brain by giving a series of vaccines has been shown to significantly disrupt brain development, resulting in learning difficulties, behavioral problems and language problems. In fact, studies have shown that immune stimulation in small children can also result in schizophrenia in a significant proportion.
The CDC is now recommending two seasonal flu vaccines (which contain mercury) and two swine flu vaccines and for children below the age of five, a pneumococcal vaccine, all over a month’s time. Remember, these children will also be getting a series of 36 childhood vaccines before they start school. Most of these vaccines contain powerful immune stimulators called adjuvants as well as brain toxic aluminum and even mercury.
Pediatricians often give five to seven vaccines during a single office visit, which is a tremendous dose of immune adjuvants, enough to cause the brain to become chronically inflamed by a process called immunoexcitotoxicity. It is this process, from my studies, that is causing the autism and schizophrenia.
Now, let us look at just how effective these vaccines are. According to the results of the safety and efficacy study reported in the New England Journal of Medicine, at age six months to 35 months (three years of age), there is no protection in 75 percent of the children. One of the largest studies of the effectiveness of the seasonal flu vaccine in children age two and under found that it gave no protection—it was no better than a placebo.
This means for the targeted children age six months to three years, we see no protection from the seasonal flu vaccine and only 25 percent from the swine flu vaccine. For children age three years to nine years, 64 percent had no protection from the swine flu vaccine. In essence, these children are getting very little protection from the vaccines, but are facing chronic diseases that can ruin their lives forever.
WebMD posted a comprehensive article by Dr. Michael Bronze, a professor of Internal Medicine at the University of Okalahoma Health Science Center, in which he states that there are animal studies showing that vaccination during pregnancy harms the fetus, but no studies have been done on humans to establish safety for pregnant women.
In fact, Merck Pharmaceutical Company, in conjunction with the CDC, conducted such as test in human pregnant women with the Gardasil vaccine. The result was a significant increase in miscarriages and babies born with malformations. So, here we go again—but this time, tens of thousands of pregnant women and their babies, will be at risk. But then the pharmaceutical companies and their friends in government fixed it so that you cannot sue them when the disaster happens.
Pregnant women should beware, as should mothers with small children. Good nutrition, taking your prenatal multivitamin/minerals and supplementing with 2000 IU of vitamin D3 will provide you with all the protection you need
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Johns Hopkins sucks ace!!!
And for the record, my flu shot was free...I didn't pay anyone anything for it.
Have your doctor prescribe enough anti-virals against the current flu and get those scripts filled.
So we are to avoid getting a shot, yet we are to help create the next super bug?
After my flu shot my arm hurt all night, but that's not the worst of it. 3 or 4 weeks later there is a little monster sleeping next to my bed. And all it does is sleep, cry and then poop and piss on me.
So we are to avoid getting a shot, yet we are to help create the next super bug?
After my flu shot my arm hurt all night, but that's not the worst of it. 3 or 4 weeks later there is a little monster sleeping next to my bed. And all it does is sleep, cry and then poop and piss on me.
Good news....I hear the Mods are going to start a Medical section
That's funny.
I feel for you. Our kids are 6 and 8. Both just getting over strep throat. One gets it they all get it. I hate that. And they still wake me up during the night. I'm just glad I don't have to change diapers and burp them anymore.
I get the seasonal flu shot every year. So do the kids and the hub. Never had any problems. Yeah! So I figure why not when our insurance pays for. I do whatever to help prevent down time for me, my hub and kids.
I just saw this on the local news. I can't get over how screwed up this is!
http://www.myfoxeugene.com/dpp/heal...isabled_by_flu_shot_reaction_dystonia_4027780
http://www.myfoxeugene.com/dpp/heal...isabled_by_flu_shot_reaction_dystonia_4027780
Maybe the Canadians at least are learning, these vaccinations will be a disaster. Sure maybe the majority will seem fine but what about those who have these dangerous and sometimes deadly reactions and even though you think you are fine after the vacination what will be the effects down the road. Thety refuse to accept that the vacinations may cause autisim in children but what else has caused the rate to skyrocket to 1 in 81 births?
I can't believe americans can become so agitated at the actions of our government and it's socialist agenda and destruction of free enterprise and yet go along with the same clowns and marxists when it comes to health. Swampy
1. Seasonal Flu Shot May Double Swine Flu Risk
A Canadian study found that people who are vaccinated against ordinary seasonal flu double their risk of catching swine flu. The unpublished study has stunned government agencies and thrown national vaccination plans into upheaval as well as tested the public’s faith in the government’s ability to protect their health. Although many experts are skeptical of the study’s results, several provinces in Canada have announced plans to suspend seasonal flu vaccinations.
“It has confused things very badly,” Dr. Ethan Rubinstein, head of adult infectious diseases at the University of Manitoba, told The Globe and Mail. “And it has certainly cost us credibility from the public because of conflicting recommendations. Until last week, there had been much encouragement to get the seasonal flu vaccine.”
Alberta, British Columbia, Nova Scotia, Ontario, Quebec, and Saskatchewan provinces have suspended seasonal flu shots for all people under 65 years old. Instead, they are focusing on vaccinating for the H1N1 “swine flu” virus during the autumn months and plan to resume seasonal flu vaccinations early in 2010.
“By the time the H1N1 wave is over, there will be ample time to vaccinate for seasonal flu,” Rubinstein said.
So far, health authorities in the United States have stated they haven’t found a similar link. The head of vaccine research for the World Health Organization has suggested the Canadian study is flawed, but Dr. Rubinstein doesn’t agree.
“There are a large number of authors, all of them excellent and credible researchers,” he said. “And the sample is very large—12 or 13 million people taken from the central reporting system in three provinces. The research is solid.”
Senior citizens, who carry antibodies that seem to largely protect them from the effects of H1N1, are still urged to get the seasonal flu shot, since they are more likely to be susceptible to the worst effects of seasonal flu.
Scientists do not understand the link between seasonal flu shots and the H1N1 virus. “At the present time, it is quite perplexing,” said Dr. Rubinstein.
I can't believe americans can become so agitated at the actions of our government and it's socialist agenda and destruction of free enterprise and yet go along with the same clowns and marxists when it comes to health. Swampy
1. Seasonal Flu Shot May Double Swine Flu Risk
A Canadian study found that people who are vaccinated against ordinary seasonal flu double their risk of catching swine flu. The unpublished study has stunned government agencies and thrown national vaccination plans into upheaval as well as tested the public’s faith in the government’s ability to protect their health. Although many experts are skeptical of the study’s results, several provinces in Canada have announced plans to suspend seasonal flu vaccinations.
“It has confused things very badly,” Dr. Ethan Rubinstein, head of adult infectious diseases at the University of Manitoba, told The Globe and Mail. “And it has certainly cost us credibility from the public because of conflicting recommendations. Until last week, there had been much encouragement to get the seasonal flu vaccine.”
Alberta, British Columbia, Nova Scotia, Ontario, Quebec, and Saskatchewan provinces have suspended seasonal flu shots for all people under 65 years old. Instead, they are focusing on vaccinating for the H1N1 “swine flu” virus during the autumn months and plan to resume seasonal flu vaccinations early in 2010.
“By the time the H1N1 wave is over, there will be ample time to vaccinate for seasonal flu,” Rubinstein said.
So far, health authorities in the United States have stated they haven’t found a similar link. The head of vaccine research for the World Health Organization has suggested the Canadian study is flawed, but Dr. Rubinstein doesn’t agree.
“There are a large number of authors, all of them excellent and credible researchers,” he said. “And the sample is very large—12 or 13 million people taken from the central reporting system in three provinces. The research is solid.”
Senior citizens, who carry antibodies that seem to largely protect them from the effects of H1N1, are still urged to get the seasonal flu shot, since they are more likely to be susceptible to the worst effects of seasonal flu.
Scientists do not understand the link between seasonal flu shots and the H1N1 virus. “At the present time, it is quite perplexing,” said Dr. Rubinstein.
