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Fix Kits!

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This is easy guys. Check the tune of your 800. Buy a leak down tester and check it. You maintain your clutches, belt, chain tension, track, or wax it every other ride. Why not do a leak down test every 200 miles. Not a compression check, a leak down test. Worried about your motor, do this simple 15 minute (total time) test. If you don't want to buy a good tester buy one from Harbor Freight for $41. Or make one yourself, there are DIY builds on the web. Keep a log of your test results per cylinder. Hopefully you will acknowledge when it is time for a rebuild before the "catastrophic failure". I don't care if it is stock or one of the available "fix kits" you need to do this.

Dont take this the wrong way. I understand doing a leak down test/compression around every 800-1000 miles but 200 is kind of rediculous.
 
You be the judge at what interval. Have a turbo in the shop, rings failed at 295miles. Personally, everyone needs to be proactive with maintenance. Example:Some guys change oil in their vehicle every 2000miles and some 10,000 miles.
 
I like this, I wish I was your dealer. 2011s are now past the 2year engine warranty and the 2012s are almost there.
Dealers would rather sell you a $4600 short block and labor than have you buy a $41 gauge and a set of pistons. Not even going to start on the back order issue.
With all the posts and threads on engine problems with the 8, ignorance now is inexcusable. I try and post things that will help you enjoy your passion, and extend your season without mechanical issues. And you want to criticize a help, heads up post.
I give up.
 
Yeah, I have 2500 miles on my 2012 with the crappy stock pistons and cylinders that the fixit kits are trying to fix. So with the fix I should easily be able to see 4000-5000 miles one would think. Anyone with the new pistons or other fix have that kind of milage on one?

paul you might want to consider the damage that is being done by the constant rocking of the piston within the cylinder.this can flex the metal back and fourth until the metal fatigue's and cracks or worse yet breaks.not trying to be rude but many people don't consider this type of wear.
 
On a turboed pro I could see doing that but doing that on a stock ones seems a little much. To each their own.



I just did a Fix Kit from MTNTK on a totally stock 2012. The sled had 313 miles with extreme ring flaking. One piston had 0.014" clearance at the piston skirt and the other piston had 0.011".

On a side note.....we never saw the ring flaking issue with the CFI-4 that we see in the CFI-2.
 
pistons and skirts and offsets aside- is a drop in kit going to help the crank from taking a dump at 1100 miles (on a '12 800).

i'm sure the crank work would help but i aint got the financial backing to spring for that kinda upgrade (i hope nobody gets all but hurt with that comment).

as for comparing pistons to crank work- its called apples and oranges

I've been reading a ton of these threads since I hit 1,000 miles this year. I haven't seen anything that sounds like a widespread or recurring problem with the crank.
 
There is a reason I bought a 2013 800 instead of a 2011/2012. I put over 300 miles on my sled a weekend and then leave it up at my cabin(120 miles away) in a non heated shed. To cut down on costs so i can ride all year. I never said you shouldn't do a leak down test. I just said 200 miles seems way too soon to do and sorry if you take offense to that. Maybe I am just being to hopefull that the 13's will last longer then the 11/12's.
I change my oil on my diesel car every 10,000 miles..
 
paul you might want to consider the damage that is being done by the constant rocking of the piston within the cylinder.this can flex the metal back and fourth until the metal fatigue's and cracks or worse yet breaks.not trying to be rude but many people don't consider this type of wear.

I dont feel the enginevis lasting as long as it should either. This is why I pulled my valve and looked at the piston and ring. I was concerned and replacement parts have been ordered. My point with the above post was if these fix it kits really fix the problem we should easily get well over 4000-5000 miles with them without seeing the issue. I doubt anyone has that kind of mileage one and if they do I would like to hear what kit it is. I know people with well over 2000 miles on the stock motor with out issue so these fix it kits need to be run much past that before we will know.

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I dont feel the enginevis lasting as long as it should either. This is why I pulled my valve and looked at the piston and ring. I was concerned and replacement parts have been ordered. My point with the above post was if these fix it kits really fix the problem we should easily get well over 4000-5000 miles with them without seeing the issue. I doubt anyone has that kind of mileage one and if they do I would like to hear what kit it is. I know people with well over 2000 miles on the stock motor with out issue so these fix it kits need to be run much past that before we will know.

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sorry i misunderstood what you were saying,i haven't heard of anyone with that kind of mileage on a drop in kit. i do think the sooner you get better pistons in that motor the better off your gonna be.i've ran the dropin kit in my 11 and my 13 and have been im pressed by how much it smoothes out the motor,and the perfomance gain is a very nice side benefit.i am very happy with the kit and plan on buying another one for my sons 2011.:face-icon-small-hap
 
The cylinder itself is offset from the centerline of the crankshaft. The purpose of this is so that the connecting rod is vertical at the moment of greatest combustion force. The idea is that side loading on the piston is minimized and throttle response is increased.

Apparently, it's common practice in street bike engine design as well.
 
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terra alps fix kit

Has anybody tried the TERRA ALPS fix kit with their pistons ,shim and head? They use cast pistons. Thanks for any feedback.
 
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