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Finally got to ride a turbo'd Apex

After all the talk about this sled I had some pre-formed ideas in my head. I finally got to ride one for a while and spend a few days riding with the guy who owned it.

After about an hour I actually felt like I was on a weightless sled. HP does over come weight. I found that out. As weightless as it felt, and as responsive as the throttle was (which really surprised me) I am left to wonder why this sled gets a bad rap as a boondocking sled. After an hour of riding, I believe it was the best boondocker I have ever rode. It was so easy to throw around. I think because the all the weight is usually in the air. If it's not and you need to move it all you do is give it some throttle and it lifts and you put it down where you want it. It was like riding without gravity. I did get stuck a few times and if I am going to be honest, I could not tell the difference in weight. For one thing even when it's really stuck, it takes about an 8th of the digging and lifting a normal sled takes because it makes track speed so fast just a little pull and some feathering on the throttle and up and out it would go.

Chances are I will never be able to afford one of these sleds, but I now understand that aspirated motors have got a long, long way to go if they are ever going to get enough HP to make riding this effortless regardless of how LW they are. I love my LW sleds, but they are going to have to get them under 200 pounds, and get another 100 horse out of them to make them competative. I can be happy with what I got, but at least I know why guys are willing to spend big bucks for these sleds. It truely takes riding to a different level. What I thought were downsides to this sled simply are not. I'm not sure they have a down side. I loved not having to pull a rope.
 
I picked my Boondocker stage one, up used. Bought Apex new in 06. I have 12,800 into everything.

All this talk about 20-30 thou in TApex's is bull, most of us, are in the low teens.
 
When does 450 lbs ever seem "light"?
Stuck is stuck........I've spoke to many peps who have got stuck a whole less on their boosted 4 strokes than their modded 2's.

I don't often get into the "why" on this forum any longer. But it must be working as the 4 stroke product is increasing in sales above the industry trend...........in Canada 4 sure.

Glad you had a good ride......I know they are not for everyone.....it is your money so spend it wisely.:beer;:beer;

RS
 
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They are not as expensive that one may think

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...210511206&rd=1
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Not as expensive? Easy to say. Harder to prove. Look in the yami section of the swap and tell me how many turboed sleds you see for under 16 grand. Not many. Would absolutely love to buy one but can hardly justify all that money for 3-4 mountain rides a year. Thought many times of adding a turbo but know hardly anything about them. Wouldn't know where to start with tuning and am afraid I would burn it down on the first ride. Mechanics are expensive and don't have anyone local with enough knowledge to trust anyway. I dream of owning a turboed sled but for now that is all it is. Will just continue drueling over yours.
 
Not as expensive? Easy to say. Harder to prove. Look in the yami section of the swap and tell me how many turboed sleds you see for under 16 grand. Not many. Would absolutely love to buy one but can hardly justify all that money for 3-4 mountain rides a year. Thought many times of adding a turbo but know hardly anything about them. Wouldn't know where to start with tuning and am afraid I would burn it down on the first ride. Mechanics are expensive and don't have anyone local with enough knowledge to trust anyway. I dream of owning a turboed sled but for now that is all it is. Will just continue drueling over yours.

FWIW mine is under $16k but Yes i agree easy to say and harder to prove. I just keep convincing myself that it makes sense.
 
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They are not as expensive that one may think

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...210511206&rd=1
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Not as expensive? Easy to say. Harder to prove. Look in the yami section of the swap and tell me how many turboed sleds you see for under 16 grand. Not many. Would absolutely love to buy one but can hardly justify all that money for 3-4 mountain rides a year. Thought many times of adding a turbo but know hardly anything about them. Wouldn't know where to start with tuning and am afraid I would burn it down on the first ride. Mechanics are expensive and don't have anyone local with enough knowledge to trust anyway. I dream of owning a turboed sled but for now that is all it is. Will just continue drueling over yours.

Agreed. Not trying to flaunt but my new tapex cost me $33,000. Full out tapex builds do cost $30,000+++ but if you just throw a stage1 on it then you easily be into one for around $15,000.
 
Agreed. Not trying to flaunt but my new tapex cost me $33,000. Full out tapex builds do cost $30,000+++ but if you just throw a stage1 on it then you easily be into one for around $15,000.

If you weren't trying to gloat, jou wouldn't have all that crap listed in your sig. :rolleyes:
 
They're all fun and games until you roll one over and then hope it starts before the battery dies.
 
The problem isn't the weight it is the "lightweight is better" propeganda that is spewed out by ignorant people. I had a salesman tell me "Why wouldn't you want reverse especially on a sled as heavy as the Nytro?" Even the YAMA salesman buy into the B.S. that they are "TOO HEAVY" to ride in the POW.

I ride an Apex with a little juice and let me just say the Apex STOCK far exceeded my expectations. I got it new in 06 and I am still on the original belt. I weight 200lbs and I can ride with anybody in the steep and deep.

It isn't the weight it's the rider.
 
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When does 450 lbs ever seem "light"?
Stuck is stuck........I've spoke to many peps who have got stuck a whole less on their boosted 4 strokes than their modded 2's.
RS

So true...In 2 1/2 years of riding my boosted Apex I don't think I've been stuck more than a total of 10 times and I go more places boondocking than I did on my 2 stroke. Best boondocker I've ever ridden :beer;

The first time my brother rode it he promptly stuffed it in a creek on dry lake at 40+mph. We spent a few minutes and got it rightside up and a whole slew of guys who had seen the chaos came over and offered to help pull me out. I declined and politely asked everybody to get out of the way and then proceeded to grab some throttle and climb out of the creek bed with my skis about 3' in the air lol. The onlookers were dumbfounded :face-icon-small-hap

If its deep and we are exploring my buds expect me to lead or ask to ride my sled.

I just don't get why people think boosted apexes can't boondock.
 
One thing i really notice between the Apex and XP when doing tight turns or donuts, is when you put the Apex on its side it just stays there beautifully like it was meant to be there. The XP on the other hand does this silly arm pumping thing like you really have to try and keep it there. And they say the Apex tires you out, LOL. I think it is the rear of the pilot skis that drag the snow and you have to try and correct for it constantly. Apex does it better, better front end characteristics on the Apex.
 
took sone time to get used to but i wouldnt go back no comparing to the xpmy rideing buddie bought one ps I paid 14500 for my 06mcx with low miles
 
I can't leave this one alone....this is my fist year on a boost 4-stroke. I spent all of last year grinning from ear to ear with a BD Turbo M7 loving every minute of it. After boondocking in the deep (the only reason we ride) with my Apex (Gar 2871 with Simmons Gen 2 skis) I have fallen in love. Those who have posted in the past mentioning how well-balanced the Apex is aren't blowing smoke. It is by far the funnest boondocking sled I have been around thus far. The only occasional issue is that it definitely likes to "point for the sky" when heading uphill from a dead stop - the higher the boost, the higher the "point."

For anyone that didn't see my quick video post, skim through and you'll see a bit of boondocking on an Apex - this was my 3rd ride on the Apex in deep snow....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWe-tM4AyU8
 
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