Felker's clutch setup for 09 154X

[tudizzle]

BW-
I have no problem with people turning a profit...even a big one. But is it wrong to want to know what I am getting for the money before I spend it. They way you guys dance around the question makes me feel like I am watching an episode of dancing with the stars.

BTW I think what you offer is something unique that not everybody could go out and purchase. So the comparison does not apply. If all these graphics were available and you just picked and choose which ones looked best together then tacked on 400$ to the price...that would be a good comparison.

 

[Rocky]

question

Tudizzle,

You deserve a very simple answer in regards to Felker's clutch setup......

It's his livelihood!

 

[skibreeze]

Tudizzle,

You deserve a very simple answer in regards to Felker's clutch setup......

It's his livelihood! Is it really that hard to figure out, especially in today's business world?

Ok smart azz, when I buy things, I also want to know what the parts are going to cost and what the labor is. Dizzle is simply asking what is part of the package. Very simple indeed. BTW red sucks.

 

[XC700116]

All Diz is asking for is what is the hard parts of the setup. ie, helix, springs, gears, Team clutch, weights, ect. I also don't think he's asking for part numbers either as that would obviously be giving away the whole thing.

I don't think he's asking too much here. I'd be asking the same thing if I was on a doo and looking for a setup. Just want's to know what he's paying for besides the know how to put it all together.

I'm sorry but even if it does flat out work better than anything else on the snow that's a steep price to pay without knowing what your paying for. Everything else we buy for a sled we know "I'm paying X amount of $$ for Y parts" and in a world of constant over hyped and underproducing items it's hard to blindly have faith.

 

[Rocky]

Oh, I clearly see your point. Good Luck.

 

[tudizzle]

Tudizzle,

You deserve a very simple answer in regards to Felker's clutch setup......

It's his livelihood! Is it really that hard to figure out, especially in today's business world?

Not sure how this would effect his livelihood? You think they would want to advertise, especially here on Snowest? I already gave them props for good setups? And am always willing to pay top dollar for the goods.

Don't want to know the super secret part numbers or exactly what they are doing just what parts someone would be paying for?

You seem to be close to the source so maybe you could provide some insight instead of being a...well I will bite my tongue here.

Maybe I could bribe you with some green? There now your bars match the color of the baggie in my pocket.

Shoot a pm would even work if everybody is so worried about putting Felkers under with the info....

 

[Rocky]

Felker

Not trying to be an ***...sounded like one perhaps.

I would recommend picking up the phone and set up a time to go see him, take your sled with you. Get to know him and I'm sure you'll be impressed. You'll find out all you need to know I would bet.

I have no doubt you'd be happy with the way your sled runs when you're done.

 

[tudizzle]

Yeah thanks but at this point I am over it. I don't have enough time to sit around stroking somebodies ego to pay them for a service. I am sure there are plenty of guys willing to do this so they will have plenty of business.

Have a great winter!

 

[MtnDoo]

Dizzle,

Just so you can sleep, I'll do the math for ya: The parts total is $50.00 USD.

Now, you can figure the rest out on paper.

 

[Dbook]

There is no simple answer to the question. The components vary from year to year and model to model.

If I pay more for a port job from shop A vs Shop B should I ask for the aluminum shaving's and bits so I can weight them and make sure that he did more work then Shop B ? Or should I see what the diffrence is on the hill?

In the end it all comes down to performance and what works on the hill. The thing is Lynn live's and Test's here if you dont like what it does take it back to him he will make it do what you want. Just dont expect a clutch kit to equate into a sled like whitey. Both Lynn and the owner put alot of time and effort into that sled.

If you dont want to spend the money then dont. Call Dynamo joe and ask what angle his helix's are that come with his kit. See what he says

 

[MtnDoo]

Not so wide.

 

[tudizzle]

Come on Dbook I never once asked specifics except for dollar amounts.

If I sent a motor to company A or B surely they would tell me they are going to port my jugs not that they are going to do "things" to it.

I know these guys put a lot of time and effort into getting these things dialed and should definitely be well compensated for doing it. Just like to know what my money is being spent on before dishing it out.

 

[Dbook]

Come on Dbook I never once asked specifics except for dollar amounts.

If I sent a motor to company A or B surely they would tell me they are going to port my jugs not that they are going to do "things" to it.

I know these guys put a lot of time and effort into getting these things dialed and should definitely be well compensated for doing it. Just like to know what my money is being spent on before dishing it out.

Okay, dizz I dont know the answer for any given sled but if he said:

Ramps, spring's, helix and labor are you going be happier then if he said ramps?

Isnt the answer on the hill ?

I dont know the other peoples testing practice's but, I do know Lynn test's a ton during the year. Not just one year but every year.


Dont get me wrong when I buy something I want to know what I am getting too.

That is why I suppose I spend twice as much doing my own clutching and trying to figure things out !! LOL

 

[Rocky]

setups

Like Dbook was saying, there isn't one "special setup".. I don't think most people even know what is in their sled, or for that matter really care. They just care that it works! His baseline setups will change from year to year ie: your budget (a big one) changes by the manufacturer, mods, sled length, track, riding style, and so on. Like all good tuners, he'll ask you what you like to do and give you a setup based on what he has learned each year. Because he has sold a lot of XP's the last 2 years, he has a lot of feedback from all of his customers (and racers) , plus rides with most of them over the course of the year. I think he has over 4500 trouble free miles on his 08.

This is probably why none of his cronies will give you a straight answer..there really isn't one. It all depends! And as I'm sure you can imagine, enjoy the chit out of having a better running sled over their buddies, so hush is the word.

No advertising, no big bore HP claims or promises, no "magical" aftermarket parts, no flashy showroom, no big egos, just lots of real world testing that has produced championships, incredible performance and satisfied customers.

Isn't this how this post started? Somebody heard about it and wanted to get some? From what I know, this is how the game works, RESULTS!

Nobody is on here saying they got screwed and the sled runs like chit are they? There ya go! Good luck.

 

[PJ-Hunter]

TSK TSK TSK. Settle down boys.

Yeah the setups work but $700 is a very hard pill to swallow, especially in today's economy. I really want a good clutch setup for me but it is priced too high for me. If I could get one I would be sure to lay good props where they need to be.

 

[MtnDoo]

So.... no dough, no go.
You can't get Mario Andretti's shock vaulving for free on the internet for your souped up Kia Sportage mall racer, but you can probably buy shim stacks at NAPA.
Ever wonder why CrankShop cylendars, pipes, etc.. fetch a premium? It's not that they use more expensive aluminum. Its the time they put into their product.
The computer you're typing on costs about $125 is parts- the R&D to design it makes up twice that per unit shipped. Try getting IBM, Dell, Apple to give you their split.
No suprises here.

The answer isn't to cut the guy down who is getting it done(whoever that is), but maybe someone needs to get a paper route if they want to play.

Considering the beer budget for most of this forum, I doubt thi$ i$ nearly as big of an issue as it's being made out to be.
How many sleds do you see with the typical pipe/can/vents/hood/reeds/BOSS seat, light-weight Simmons Gen XVII skis, right-hand throttle, dash-bag, SnowBunjee, jerry can, HarmonJack, Klim socks/pants/jacket, $100 sunglasses, $45k tow vehicle and zero $$$ clutching?! (oh, yeah and an RV and small herd of ATVs sitting at home)
Everybody in this discussion is riding a $10k sled and spending $$$ per weekend to ride....in the middle of the Great YoBama Depression!



MD.

 

[PJ-Hunter]

So.... no dough, no go.
You can't get Mario Andretti's shock vaulving for free on the internet for your souped up Kia Sportage mall racer, but you can probably buy shim stacks at NAPA.
Ever wonder why CrankShop cylendars, pipes, etc.. fetch a premium? It's not that they use more expensive aluminum. Its the time they put into their product.
The computer you're typing on costs about $125 is parts- the R&D to design it makes up twice that per unit shipped. Try getting IBM, Dell, Apple to give you their split.
No suprises here.

The answer isn't to cut the guy down who is getting it done(whoever that is), but maybe someone needs to get a paper route if they want to play.

Considering the beer budget for most of this forum, I doubt thi$ i$ nearly as big of an issue as it's being made out to be.
How many sleds do you see with the typical pipe/can/vents/hood/reeds/BOSS seat, light-weight Simmons Gen XVII skis, right-hand throttle, dash-bag, SnowBunjee, jerry can, HarmonJack, Klim socks/pants/jacket, $100 sunglasses, $45k tow vehicle and zero $$$ clutching?! (oh, yeah and an RV and small herd of ATVs sitting at home)
Everybody in this discussion is riding a $10k sled and spending $$$ per weekend to ride....in the middle of the Great YoBama Depression!



MD.

I rode last year less than ever, it sucked. I have mods done to my sled but I sold my other sled to do it. I also shopped around for my stuff and bought from the feller with the best price. Xtreme also helped me out with a few things. Wish I had an RV

Lefty throttles are for peeps with lesser skillz.

My point was that $700 is too much. If it were in the ballpark of $300 I would pull the trigger. All of the other guys selling clutch setups here are right around that price and they ask the same questions. Haven't bought one yet as I think I am going back to my 08 clutch setup, it worked very well.

I should go back to sleep, sense making I am not.

 

[SNOMAN1174]

Like Dbook was saying, there isn't one "special setup".. I don't think most people even know what is in their sled, or for that matter really care.

Aint that the truth, I have some friends with some fast machines they purchased on the internet last spring. Drove to Idaho to pick up, spent a half an hour talking to the previous owner about stripclubs in Boise then proceded to get drunker than hell before driving home the next day. I'd put money on it that they (my buddise and new owners)have never had thier clutches apart to clean or maintain and definitely have no idea what is inside. I'm pretty sure all they care about is haveing a sled that runs really well.

Thus the dilema, Do you put in the R&D, time and money it takes to get something dialed in ( Are you even going to understand why changes you make are effecting performence) or do you do as my buddies did and just buy something that is already done?

Either way, in this sport you pay to play!!!!!$$$$$$$$$$

 

[MtnDoo]

PJ - I hear ya. Times are tough. No denying it.
5:00am and I'm doing router config changes 1/2 way around the globe.

I'd like a Porsche Panamera for my wife to bring home the groceries with, but I don't see it happening.
Do I think German steel is worth more than Detroit steel....hell no.
Does Porsche bring something of value to the table beyond the steel.....of course.

Can I convince Don Adis(GM) at Prestige Imports in Lakewood to sell me the Panamera for the price of a Chevy Malibu because the steel costs the same and they both weigh about 3500 lbs....well.....I guess I can try.....

......Don says I can buy all of the parts at their Parts Dept, and assemble the Panemera myself

Now, if I have to sell my Honda Accord to fund the possible Malibu purchase, it still doesn't set the stage for a serious discussion with Don.

Good thing is that, even thought I really......realllllllly.......neeeeeeeeed.(best 5 year old kid voice)......Don's Panamera, there are lots of perfectly good options for cars out there to get the whife to the market and back.

But I'm quietly saving my pennies for her Panamera.



MtnDoo

Disclaimer: Wife drives a Suburban, and I drive a Chevy truck.
We're working stiffs, and don't have Porsches in our family.

 

[tudizzle]

I am relatively new to the sport with only a few seasons under my belt and will be the first to admit I still have a lot to learn when it comes to riding and tuning sleds. But I have no problem spending my wifes money and have purchased three new sleds in as many years.


The truth is with the closing of Xtreme alot of people are out looking for a new dealer/mod shop. Myself included. Mark ups on different things is going to be used as determining factor in picking a new shop.

I was just trying to figure out what I would be getting for the money spent. You guys act like I am out of line for trying to do this?