Extra Scratchers
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2500+ miles on my sled
1500+ miles on my girlfriends sled.
Only time sleds EVER ran hot enough for concern was when we were putt putting on hard pack single track at low speeds. Our solution was just to pack snow on tunnel.
We are both on original hi faxes and they look new.
My OPINION.... "overheating problem" is BS. You need to put down the scratchers on the trails--even for short distances.
My OPINION--based on our experience-- those with overheating are not putting down scratchers or not running sleds in the mountains.
I NEVER felt I needed the additional cooler in over 2500 miles.
Sorry..... Rant over.
1500+ miles on my girlfriends sled.
Only time sleds EVER ran hot enough for concern was when we were putt putting on hard pack single track at low speeds. Our solution was just to pack snow on tunnel.
We are both on original hi faxes and they look new.
My OPINION.... "overheating problem" is BS. You need to put down the scratchers on the trails--even for short distances.
My OPINION--based on our experience-- those with overheating are not putting down scratchers or not running sleds in the mountains.
I NEVER felt I needed the additional cooler in over 2500 miles.
Sorry..... Rant over.
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Oregonsledder
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I'm thinking about running a second set of the cable scratchers for days when it seems like there is the need for a little more. The cable scatchers would be nice when you don't need much... and no need to remember to retract them when you back up.
Exactly what i was thinkin of doing, i also think the slide kicks are rather smaller and only require you to drill one hole.
What are the benifits of ski mounted scratchers?
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EricW
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They also throw snow on the front of the rails/hyfax ahead of where the scratchers mount. The hyfax wear that you will find is just behind the up sweep in the rails where the weight of the skid first contacts the ground.
Ski scratchers lube all of that area and provide additional cooling as the pre-feed the track with looser/finer snow. Been running them for years and very happy. EW
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EricW
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I think your nuts! If you ride in hard snow I could see the point.For me in my conditions its a total waste just another thing to break
It makes more sense that changing you snowflap to improve cooling! That one made me giggle.
You get fresh pow every trip in NM??? If so save me a space in the lot. The trails here are where we have issues. It doesn't take much for even a fresh groom to set up tight and become a lube/heat issue. Everywhere I ride here in the northern US and Canada you will have to ride trails to get to the pow. It's not nuts, just the way it is. I can't tell you how many times I have smelled the familiar scent of burning hufax while following a group. This is especially true in spring riding conditions. Lots of people kicking, packing, and throwing snow onto their skids and tunnels just to get to the pow. Ski scratchers take care of all those issues for me. The ones in the pics are from Hartman Inc.
The ones below I made myself goofing around. EW
Where did you get that spring from?
I have to agree with you, never had any issues with temps that i thought were high. if you are riding on anything but a few inches of powder drop the scratchers and you'll be fine. but maybe i got a lucky sled that doesn't over heat, or perhaps people are to focused on what their temp gauge shows
You get fresh pow every trip in NM??? If so save me a space in the lot. The trails here are where we have issues. It doesn't take much for even a fresh groom to set up tight and become a lube/heat issue. Everywhere I ride here in the northern US and Canada you will have to ride trails to get to the pow. It's not nuts, just the way it is. I can't tell you how many times I have smelled the familiar scent of burning hufax while following a group. This is especially true in spring riding conditions. Lots of people kicking, packing, and throwing snow onto their skids and tunnels just to get to the pow. Ski scratchers take care of all those issues for me. The ones in the pics are from Hartman Inc.
The ones below I made myself goofing around. EW
looks to me like the pickup teeth (or what ever you call them) from a swather
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tbeaton
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I think your nuts
It makes more sense that changing you snowflap to improve cooling! That one made me giggle.
why would that make you giggle? snow flaps have different designs and each will help or hinder cooling. race flaps do nothing for trail riders, my old 600rs was a cooling nightmare, put a rev xp style trail flap on and problem solved. the pro has holes in the flap letting snow out as opposed to funneling it into the track, change it to a standard rmk flap and that helps with keeping more snow in your flap. is it pointless for mountain riding? i would say yes, but not if you need to ride some trails.
You get fresh pow every trip in NM??? If so save me a space in the lot.
Would you like your spot To say RESERVED for MR.W ?
Come on down ! here is a pic from last sunday 10 /9/11
Of course I will use them on the trail but two sets would be overkill 99.% of the time
![IMG_0085[3].jpg](https://www.snowest.com/forum/data/attachments/128/128567-6d47fd52a55277dd54e06d7c4795c69d.jpg?hash=bUf9UqVSd9 "IMG_0085[3].jpg")
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EricW
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Would you like your spot To say RESERVED for MR.W ?
If thats not too much to ask. Maybe a staging area for parking lot poses too. lol.
The springs for the home made scratchers are the ones found on a Craftsman tine de-thatcher (42" er at my place). You could probably find something similar at the farm n ranch store or they do have a part number online at Craftsman. A couple bucks each if I remember right. I bend a fender washer for the top with 3 bends to shape it like a triangle and put a compression spring over the 5/16" bolt under the washer. Nyloc on the top determines how far down you set the tines. The more you screw the nut down the deeper the tines go in the snow. Pretty simple deal really. They do throw a lot of crap. I built them when I was 430#'s and riding an Apex. Couldn't get 10 feet from the trailer before that pig with my big butt on it was buildning heat and melting plastic. EW
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ak49er
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We did not opt for the extra wheel kit on our PRO's.
I ride with the OEM scratchers down almost all the time.
On my wifes PRO, I have her ride with the OEM and cable scratchers down as she does not always think about cooling/lube issues.
Having said that I feel that "Hyfax" are wear parts and change them out each season.
I ride with the OEM scratchers down almost all the time.
On my wifes PRO, I have her ride with the OEM and cable scratchers down as she does not always think about cooling/lube issues.
Having said that I feel that "Hyfax" are wear parts and change them out each season.
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EricW
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I have never noiced it.
Yep, they just roll till the long tine points forward. No problemo. EW
