Again, you are talking about methanol, used in race engines because of it's vaporization properties. It also is much, much more corrosive than ethanol.
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Again, you are talking about methanol, used in race engines because of it's vaporization properties. It also is much, much more corrosive than ethanol.
Never heard of rough starts in 50 plus weather.
Have not had ant similar problems myself.
However, as it states in the owners manual, starting will become an issue with e85 as weather gets colder.
It will never be an issue with e10.
I wish I would have taken a picture of it. It was physically a goo or gel type of substance that formed in the float bowl. A little space alien growing in there. The same thing is reported to happen with highly oxygenated race fuel. They even have a label stating to drain after each use. Trust me, I've very particular with my stuff. I was more than a little surprised and upset to see this in there.
A couple things to note. In MN the humidity and just the amount of moisture is much higher than many other parts of the country. Some of the problems could be from the amount of moisture the ethanol is pulling from the environment around it.
The other thing to note is the seperation of the ethanol from the fuel. As you stated e-10 probably isn't even noticable. Now if that mix becomes 30% which as I stated before could actually be closer to 50% at some pumps. It could just be a simple matter of where we are buying our gas. The future may requie the tanks being pumped and having it taken back to the plant for reblending.
On another note. We were having this discussion at work the other day. A guy who actually hauls ethanol for a living overheard us talking about it. Well, he flat out told us to never ever run that stuff in our bikes.
He was very adamant about the fact that it can cause all kinds of damage including the head. He is very into dirtbiking and deals directly with a motor builder in California that says no way to running the stuff. And you guys are right. It was methanol we ran. I was just using it as a comparison as we had to drain the carb each night.
well it was summer time so it was 50 plus....just don't see how people would be OK with starting being an issue in cooler temps due to the fuel. Seems like using half a battery and being OK with maybe not starting....
Summertime.......
You may have had starting issues, but, I am confident your starting issues were not ethanol related.
Keep in mind that it is proven fact that ethanol is commonly incorrectly blamed when an accurate diagnosis cannot be found.
Usually a mechanic who is "anti-ethanol" is very uneducated about ethanol. (we tend to fear what we do not understand type of mentality)
As far as colder weather.....it would seem logical that as the mercury drops i am gonna keep the e % lower.
I'm the same way. Corn closed at $2.98 on friday here at the local wheat growers. Now yes that is more than we were getting ten years ago. but when corn went up to 7.00 a couple years ago everyone seen that but no one ever seen that corn has been at around 1.50 to 2.00 since the 50's and all the imputs have gone up. Just for one quarter of corn it cost 300 and acre to put into the ground and harvest it and spray it around my area. THats about the average I would say. Yes on a good year we make some money but on a bad year like this I hope the insurance will atleast pay the rent. In my 05 ford f150 I will see mabey a one to two mile per gallon difference in running ethenol or premium. So I always just use the ethenol. In my sleds I run ethenol. Yes I can tell the difference in my sled when I run premium but im not going to go buy another fuel barel just for that. We have run ethenol in all our 4 wheelers for the last 8 years and never had any trouble with it. When the corn price goes up the cost of your food at the store does not go up but mabey a cent or two. What drive the food prices is the fuel prices. If the food is trucked in and the fuel goes up the trucker is going to pass his high cost of fuel on to the store and the store is going to pass it on to the consumer. THat is why your food prices go up. Think about why would the trucker loose money delivering the load and why would the store loose money by selling the food for what it cost 20 years ago everyhting goes up but my wages hahha.
I just don't see how it could have been starting issues. In the weeks leading up on regular no issues, ran E for a month and developed issues. Swapped back to regular and reset the codes, no issue....and it was a fuel related code.
Oh well, I'm not anti E, just not a corn fan and we need to figure it out more before I run it in the car again.
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knzee
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Don't want to argue with you but....it was ethanol that took the crome plating off the wrenches. I was working on and injection skid where we injected it into the load arm as it entered the semi to be hauled to the gas stations to be pumped into your cars. I use methanol to thaw out frozen additive lines and seal drain lines on our mainline pumps in the winter.
My mistake then, The reactive properties of ethanol and isopropal are so close that I can't see removing the chrome on tools but if you say so I won't argue.
nope my issues were with 85
