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drinking while pregnant...

My only thought on this would be why would you even want to? You know it cant be good for the fetus, and even if you got lucky and didnt hurt the fetus ..the chances that the child may have other issues stemming from the alcohol intake down the road alone are enough to stop any sane person from doing it...In my opinion..if you cant go 10 months without alcohol while pregnent..you have no business having or raising kids...period..go get an abortion and leave the children to those who do wish to give a child every oportunity in life to be successful..I couldnt imagine dringing during pregenency and giving birth to a child with some kind of alcohol related issue and then having to watch the child grow up in this world with it...knowing that it is a direct result of my own stupidity....grow up/man up and either do what is best for the fetus/child...or dont have any to begin with...its that simple....
 
I think I have already said that I get your point and I get your reasoning or the reasoning for the statements you are backing up. That doesn't mean that there are studies and results showing this though. Again, not saying it isn't unreasonable, just looking for the proof instead of inferred conclusions. From what I have seen and you have shown, there isn't much. Now just because that is so, doesn't mean that woman should start drinking all the time.

Fair enough, although I still think you are feigning some level of naivety in order to maintain your position in this discussion. I think that that you know, that I know, that you know I know, that you know better. Or something like that.

Having said that, I did start punching my desk this morning, and my hand feels stronger already. Well, I'm pretty sure it will once they take the cast off...
 
I have found that I drink A LOT more now that my wife is pregnant (twins).:face-icon-small-sho

But really, I believe it is very wrong for a mother to drink, or smoke while pregnant, or if breast feeding.
 
My only thought on this would be why would you even want to? You know it cant be good for the fetus, and even if you got lucky and didnt hurt the fetus ..the chances that the child may have other issues stemming from the alcohol intake down the road alone are enough to stop any sane person from doing it...In my opinion..if you cant go 10 months without alcohol while pregnent..you have no business having or raising kids...period..go get an abortion and leave the children to those who do wish to give a child every oportunity in life to be successful..I couldnt imagine dringing during pregenency and giving birth to a child with some kind of alcohol related issue and then having to watch the child grow up in this world with it...knowing that it is a direct result of my own stupidity....grow up/man up and either do what is best for the fetus/child...or dont have any to begin with...its that simple....
grow up? man up? FYI, men don't have babies...
 
grow up? man up? FYI, men don't have babies...
Sounds to me from reading this that you are looking for justification for you and the wife to drink during her pregnency....there is no justification for it...when mine got pregnent i quit drinking..and havent had more then a 6 pack per year since..and my kids are 16 & 18 right now..its called being a responsible parent...sorry ruffy, you can say what you will.....you can toute study after study..they are wrong..its irresponsible to do and you know it...so man or woman..if there is a pregnency involved..man/woman up and put the party life aside..other wise..dont have kids..
 
nope, just trying to challenge my previous assumptions and looking for the proof

there are more than enough challenges without any added influence to a developing fetus and infants until you really find noticable effects as toddlers and young children. Seems that around 5ish when developmental impacts become really noticable as they are with other children in larger quantity to compare.

The question you have to ask, are you willing to find the proof one way or the other in your specific situation, for your child? As it will be different for every case to create the averages, which side of the bell curve would you like to see your kid?

As you get immersed in to the parenthood world, you will feel lucky, blessed and thankful that you chose to give your child every advantage by not accepting any level of risk that was in your control. Eventually as they grow, you have to let them take their own risks as they learn to walk etc...but until then, it's squarely on your shoulders with every risk option you have confronting you.

You personally know a great friend that took no risk and yet the challenge is heavy and for a lifetime...I would hope that you choose to feel blessed as you inevetably compare your children. And feel blessed for those kids that have the challenges, thru no fault of their own, for having parents that commit their lives to taking care of them as lovingly as possible every minute of the day.

Asking the questions for educational sake is fine, but in the decision making process, it seems there is no question of you to do......
 
Sounds to me from reading this that you are looking for justification for you and the wife to drink during her pregnency....there is no justification for it...when mine got pregnent i quit drinking..and havent had more then a 6 pack per year since..and my kids are 16 & 18 right now..its called being a responsible parent...sorry ruffy, you can say what you will.....you can toute study after study..they are wrong..its irresponsible to do and you know it...so man or woman..if there is a pregnency involved..man/woman up and put the party life aside..other wise..dont have kids..
I don't think you understand the point of this discussion at all... Your soap box must not get used very often.. lol
 
Now we are getting close to the point of the thread..

Good thing you're not pregnant and she is....when are we having another garage session so we can get buzzed?.....:face-icon-small-hap

The process for us, gave my even more respect for my lady as she had to endure more challenges than I. And I know that she is way stronger than me any day of the week when it get's down to it. Physical pain, endurance and plain grit in dealing with the aspects of raising kids is way easier for us men...if was and still is a humbling experience....
 
WOW!!!! Is there anyone in this world with half a brain to dispute the fact that consuming alcohol is not good for your health? So why would it not be for a baby in the womb? That is what I would say is NOT rocket science. HOLY COW!!!!!!

You obviously are misinformed there are hundred if not thouands of studies that prove moderate intake of alcohol is NOT harmful and is in most cases beneifical .

so YES! I would disagree entirely . I was encouraged to drink beer in the ICU/ Burn ward becuse it IS good for you in moderate amounts.
 
You obviously are misinformed there are hundred if not thouands of studies that prove moderate intake of alcohol is NOT harmful and is in most cases beneifical .

so YES! I would disagree entirely . I was encouraged to drink beer in the ICU/ Burn ward becuse it IS good for you in moderate amounts.
what a douche... oh wait.. good post! ha ha
 
You obviously are misinformed there are hundred if not thouands of studies that prove moderate intake of alcohol is NOT harmful and is in most cases beneifical .

so YES! I would disagree entirely . I was encouraged to drink beer in the ICU/ Burn ward becuse it IS good for you in moderate amounts.

I just have to say that I am so ashamed of myself because I wasted the time to actually read this entire thread, and even worse I participated in it. Live and learn I guess...
 
Proof or no proof that moderate alcohol affects the fetus, I'm not going to let my fiance drink when she is pregnant with our child. The good thing is, she doesnt drink or smoke anyway so it's not an issue.

She will however cut out the caffeine and aderol when she does get pregnant. I don't know if there are studies for both of those drugs, but it's common sense to stop them while you are pregnant (same as alcohol, cigs, drugs etc.).

People arguing that moderate drinking is actually GOOD while pregnant....well go hang out with my dad. He is the typical alcoholic that see's a "study" that says drinking a glass of red wine is good for you each day (not during pregnancy) and relates it to all alcohol being good for you and decides that drinking 6 beers a night is ok. Tell me how well he is doing..... To me it's not worth the risk.

Personally, if I were pregnant, I would go off alcohol, tobacco, limit caffeine, aderol/ritalin etc. try to eat healthier with more fruites, vegetables, organic, proteins etc while pregnant. You only have one chance to properly nurish and bring that child into this world the best you can, why take chances???

If you can't go off of drinking/tobacco etc. for 9 months you either have an addiction problem or a selfish and irresponsibility problem.
 
Proof or no proof that moderate alcohol affects the fetus, I'm not going to let my fiance drink when she is pregnant with our child. The good thing is, she doesnt drink or smoke anyway so it's not an issue.

She will however cut out the caffeine and aderol when she does get pregnant. I don't know if there are studies for both of those drugs, but it's common sense to stop them while you are pregnant (same as alcohol, cigs, drugs etc.).

People arguing that moderate drinking is actually GOOD while pregnant....well go hang out with my dad. He is the typical alcoholic that see's a "study" that says drinking a glass of red wine is good for you each day (not during pregnancy) and relates it to all alcohol being good for you and decides that drinking 6 beers a night is ok. Tell me how well he is doing..... To me it's not worth the risk.

Personally, if I were pregnant, I would go off alcohol, tobacco, limit caffeine, aderol/ritalin etc. try to eat healthier with more fruites, vegetables, organic, proteins etc while pregnant. You only have one chance to properly nurish and bring that child into this world the best you can, why take chances???

If you can't go off of drinking/tobacco etc. for 9 months you either have an addiction problem or a selfish and irresponsibility problem.


That'll be enough of that silly talk!! No common sense is allowed in this discussion :face-icon-small-win

Once a child is born, is it OK to give them a shot or 2 of booze every day? What's the difference?
 
I just have to say that I am so ashamed of myself because I wasted the time to actually read this entire thread, and even worse I participated in it. Live and learn I guess...

I wonder why I try to explain real facts to closed minded people who know everything!You could still ...... well fawk it .... pointless make sure to close the lid on that box you live in .
 
That'll be enough of that silly talk!! No common sense is allowed in this discussion :face-icon-small-win

Once a child is born, is it OK to give them a shot or 2 of booze every day? What's the difference?
Probably close the the same as when a women gets pain medication during birth or a c-section?
 
You obviously are misinformed there are hundred if not thouands of studies that prove moderate intake of alcohol is NOT harmful and is in most cases beneifical .

so YES! I would disagree entirely . I was encouraged to drink beer in the ICU/ Burn ward becuse it IS good for you in moderate amounts.
ha ha thats funny, i was told to stay away from alchol when i broke my back[paralyzed from the boobs down] its a depressent and dehydrates you.:focus:
 
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