D.U.I. On a sled???

[Tackbtch]

Quick to judge ????

If your license is so important then dont drink and ride. Its really pretty simple.

If you need to drink then stay home. Riding is dangerous enough without having to worry about people drinking on the trails. Grow up and save the drinks for after.

And if you decide to take a chance I hope you lose your license, job, sled, and all your possesions after you cant afford to pay for them.

So you can get it strait, my drinking days are long gone, sure a Fat Tire Ale with my once a month steak dinner. As for the license I was trying to point out just a few of the consequences ... not to mention higher Insurance rates. In so far as "grow up" ...please don't try to LECTER me about the carnage of drinking ... don't even try that one with me. I DONT DRINK AND DRIVE NOR DOO I DRINK AND RIDE SLEDS. Got it now??... Dino

 

[MJay]

If you dont drink and ride then you have no worries and you should be happy the dnr is there to stop the people who do. It makes the trails safer for everyone and I dont understand how anyone could be against that.

 

[4strokesnewbie]

bad attitude

If you dont drink and ride then you have no worries and you should be happy the dnr is there to stop the people who do. It makes the trails safer for everyone and I dont understand how anyone could be against that.

Your attitude is so bad, you could turn someone who is for the checkpoints against it.
I don't think people should drink and ride on the trails, however I don't think it is that well known that it is illegal. Maybe some public education is in order.

 

[sldgy]

As long as they don't lock you up. If some drunk killed my Wife I wouldn't want him locked up. Hell, I wouldn't even press charges. I become his best friend. On the last day anyone ever saw him ,people would comment on what best friends we had become. Heck I was even seen taking him out for a ride that last night.......

I can't understand someone not being able to wait until he's not operating a machine to drink. I think DUI drivers should be treated just like someone that sticks a gun out a window and pulls the trigger without even looking. No differant.

I also get pizzed picking up all the damn cans that get tossed all over.

There is a differance between freedom and irresponsibility.

B

I agree 100% with Bagger. Let me add candy wrappers, plastic water bottles and freaking cigarette butts to his damn can list.

 

[Jaynelson]

Ehn, just like anything else it would rarely catch the "bad guys" and would only serve to inconvieniece Joe Average. I don't think we need to cause anyone grief for having a few beers at the cabin. That said, there's a difference between having a couple drinks and getting completely pasted that a select few don't understand.

 

[johndeere8420]

good...anybody operating a sled while impaired by alcohol should be stopped


And yes they can stop you and check, in fact you can even get a DUI on a bicycle!


If you have to drink while sledding just limit it to one or two, save the rest for after the ride while talking about the good times.

In our county, we can get a DUI on a friggen HORSE.... but I agree BUST THEIR ACE's ... sent em to the clink and throw away the key

 

[alrevedup]

I only drink when I'm snowmobile

I'm not much of a drinker A beer here and a glass of wine there. But when I ride I take a flask of Rumplemintz. A tug here and there during the ride, warms me up and keeps me lose. I am breathing hard and my heart is pumping most of the day. I never feel impared or even buzzed. I do wonder if I was made to blow, would I blow a DUI. I know I could pass any field test (touch your nose/stand of one leg).
It is one of the few places I enjoy drinking alcohol. Never to excess.

 

[Bigpines]

Dui

My brother in law bought a new Yama SRV in about 1988. He had quit drinking, but took his sled up to a lake north of Elk River to brake it in.
He somehow ended up in a bar, and started drinking again. When good and drunk he wanted to race some other bar buddies so they went out and started across the lake. He ended up hitting a fish house at over 70 mph, when he woke up in the Princeton hospital the police came in and wrote him a ticket for DWI. The ticket stuck, and he always said he was the first sledding DWI in the state of MN. Poor guy died 4 years ago at 61, I miss him!

 

[vmaxfrank]

Beer adds unneeded weight to your sled and also dehydrates you in case of emergencies. Drink back at the hotel. Checkpoints are ok with me. Every year around hunting season, at least one guy goes to the hospital for getting drunk and riding his atv. I think they should check those, too.

And wouldn't the horse need to be drinking to get a DWI?

 

[xrated]

I'm not much of a drinker A beer here and a glass of wine there. But when I ride I take a flask of Rumplemintz. A tug here and there during the ride, warms me up and keeps me lose. I am breathing hard and my heart is pumping most of the day. I never feel impared or even buzzed. I do wonder if I was made to blow, would I blow a DUI. I know I could pass any field test (touch your nose/stand of one leg).
It is one of the few places I enjoy drinking alcohol. Never to excess.

From past knowledge and talking with cops, those tests are BS, anyoen can pass or fail sober or not. The only one that matters is tracking the finger with your eyes. And even a nip here and there can make you blow. Hell slam one beer right before and you can blow. Many folks don't realize there's a difference between being lit up and being illegal. Hell I got busted at .16 and I know for a fact I had driven way more intoxicated.(I'm not saying it was right or smart of me, but I did it, not proud just lucky and smarter, also lighter int he bank account).

 

[greenskeeper]

AGREE, if you drink dont ride, does not hurt me to see a check point,,,,,,,,,,,,saw on spike t v the cops gave a drunk a ticket driving his lawnmower home,,,,here it would go under operating a motorized vehical while intoxicated............have not see any ck points in washington,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[apache]

great idea! I think we can all agree that the government doesn't have enough control over our lives.

its not enough that they check us when we're on the road. they should also do it when we're in the back country away from everything. that way we will never feel like we can escape civilization.

I think that they should take sleds away like some have suggested above, but not just for drinking, but also for cough syrup, or cold medication in your blood, or how about if someone is just in a bad mood? their riding skill and sense of judgment is surly effected!

hell, they should be allowed to give us cavity searches on the side of the trail. who knows what someone could be carrying. we'll do it all in the name of public safety, and everyone will think its for their own good, and gladly pay for it.

we cant keep drugs and alcohol out of our prison system. but we should have no problem keeping it out of our back country!

 

[Sulley]

depends on the state, in Washington DUI checkpoints are a no go but this state is all about individual rights for crap like that. Criminals have more rights and protection than the average citizen. Our state legislators were aparently going to vote on the DUI check points but don't sound like it had much of a chance. Courts here are a joke, specially in King, Snohomish, and Pierce County. DUI's getting dropped left and right. If any state were serious about saving lives DUI check points would be legal.

I think it's a great idea

xrated, you are getting some BS info from your so called chat with cops. there are steps cops must follow during the tests and investigation (they are a NATIONAL STANDARD, the field sobriety tests that is). There are all kinds of variables yes but the cops must do everything by the book or some jerkoff drunk gets off when they go to court.

Do some research before you start talking about something you don't know much about, this he-said she-said don't do much to get the proper info out.

alrevedup, alcohol thins your blood so the warmth you feel is only temporary in your gut. It will actually make you colder to drink, remember that if you ever get lost and only have your flask.....it wont keep you warm.

ofcourse I type this as I tip one back.....................thinking about sledding.

 

[weetee]

I know, lets outlaw alcohol!

 

[Barnes]

And yes they can stop you and check, in fact you can even get a DUI on a bicycle!

Not in SD, they passed a law last year so you can no longer get a DUI on a bike or a horse.

By the way, have you ever noticed how quick you get drunk while sitting in the hot tub? Well its the exact opposite in the cold. You don't feal drunk at all but in reality, your BAC can be way over the limit. I'm sure that these stops will catch alot of people who are barely buzzed by surprise; which is a good thing. Back in college I could drink my weight in beer, but theres a place for it, NOT ON A SLED.

 

[REV414]

And wouldn't the horse need to be drinking to get a DWI?

I heard a story from the early '80s about a guy in Carbondale Colorado who got a DUI on his horse because he tried to take his horse into the bar, and didn't understand why that wasn't ok.

Oh and I totally disagree with drinking and riding, I used to have 1 beer while out riding and would just ride stupid, trying stuff that was above my ability. I don't know much about the area you guys are talking about but if it's an area that is known for having drunk people riding on the trail system I think it is a great idea to do DUI check points.

 

[Bagger]

Here's what it boils down to in my opinon (for what that's worth) when we choose not to police ourselves we are policed by others.

Apache, I don't know how you got from check points, to cavity searches, but do me a favor and let us all know what trail they are conducting the CS's on, so we can avoid them!

Here's a thought. We are talking elsewhere on here about raising more money for grooming......I look in the snoparks I use and see lots of vehicles NOT displaying a SP permit. I also know of several guys that refuse to license thier sleds.

So if the cops cruised the SP before setting up the checkpoint, or more realistic, the checkpoints will probably be in the SP (ever tried to keep coffee and donuts warm on a sled?) and the cops could ticket the non payers and put the fine money in the groomer fund.

I don't like getting hassled anymore than the next guy, but I've got to tell you that on the average weekend of riding I pick up well in excess of a 1/2 rack of cans, that doesn't include the water bottles, smokebutts and general litter. Also I meet at least two idiots running full throttle around a corner. And then there is the group of 12 or more sleds blocking the entire intersection of two trails while they suck down a "cold one".

And, if you try to talk to someone about these things, being as nice as possible, you can bet on getting major crap. So there you go. "You wanna play this easy, we can play it easy. You wanna' play it hard, we can play it hard".

We try to stay off the trails as much as possible, just because of these and other hassles. Great.

Bagger

 

[XC700116]

alrevedup, alcohol thins your blood so the warmth you feel is only temporary in your gut. It will actually make you colder to drink, remember that if you ever get lost and only have your flask.....it wont keep you warm.

On a positive note if he's lost he can use it to start a fire!


I think trail system checkpoints are a good idea for both license and DUI. The drinking and riding thing like anything needs common sense applied. Don't act like an AZZ and you won't have any problems. ie don't get lit up and ride. Anyway who wants to stop all the time for everybody to pee.

Unfortunately bad cops also hurt the effort. When my group goes to IP we tend to ride all day. go back to the cabin and make dinner and then head up to the establishment that is less than a mile away, most of the time don't even bother to put on the helmets as we don't even break 20 MPH, and support the local business. The trucks don't move all week and we don't get rip roaring drunk but if a cop wanted to be a jerk he could sit just down the road where we cross and rack up about half a dozen dui's in no time on guys that don't go out riding drunk and don't drive drunk and barely break the legal limit. If the only bar was farther away we would designate a driver and take the truck.

That being said I don't think that's going to be an issue and I don't advicate drinking and riding but in this type of case they could hurt their own cause.

 

[Anti-Hero]

Half past 5 I'm in the pub
Six O'clock it's home for grub
Eight O'clock I'm back to the bar
Sod the walk I'll take the car

[Chorus:]
Knock it back
Have another one
Drinking and driving is so much fun

In the motor off you go
Not too fast and not too slow
Keep your head and keep your cool
Must avoid that rightful pull
As you meander down the road
Don't forget your highway code
See the spot and take your pick
Out of the car to be sick!.....

 

[madcarson]

drink'n

we ride all day in the hills hen we go to mnts,usually have a beer or 2 even before head'n out,but never get crazy,pack 6 for the day(9-5:00 pm)high alt etc. don't even notice the beer,get stuck once and they're all sweated out!And that's CANADIAN BEER!