bwahaha does the baby want his bottle?
apparently you are intimidaated by a skandic? last two comments eh? your pretty smart apparently i own a xp now? 
D 8 vs XP
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bwahaha does the baby want his bottle?
apparently you are intimidaated by a skandic? last two comments eh? your pretty smart apparently i own a xp now? Wow.
People on SW are actually capable of doing an honest comparrison.
Good thread for the most part.
People on SW are actually capable of doing an honest comparrison.
Good thread for the most part.
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johnny be bad
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oh cry me a river slick! you big baby.noticed once again you didnt tell us which sled you ride? i see your still sore about the yamahog, virago comment, hey?
Would it be a FAIR statement to say that competitive hillclimbers are better than average riders?? Then if these better than average riders are winning every hill climb on only 2 out of 4 brands this should tell you what the BEST SLEDS are for that style of riding??
I would want to end this thread as well,,,because its rather impossible to argue against FACTS LIKE THIS
READ THESE REAL RESULTS
http://www.rmsha.com/results_class.asp?pRaceDetId=91
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Slick
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Revneck, I don't want to hurt your feelers, but your constant insistence that we should all consider choosing our recreational full time sled based on the the results of organized hillclimbs in wherever, is kinda silly and irrelevant for the most part. To imagine we'd all buy a sled based on race results in controlled conditions is really kinda far fetched, and not very realistic.
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Hey Slick...
You started about the 39th thread on DOO vs POO....in an open forum. The main topic specifically being the comparison of the D8 vs XP and how they perform. Where ?? Mountains
...wether for fun...for bragging rites...or King of the Mountain Crown..
So considering real hillclimbing results should be much more believable, and a great basis for comparing D8 vs XP and which is the better mountain machine.
Problem is with such a mix of newbies, average riders, weekend warriors and pro's posting in the mix....we end up reading about the guy who out performs the group and the various sleds that got beat...with total neglect to factors like...rider ability...weight of rider A B C D etc..and any mods that were done...
When you isolate a group of pro's or pro am competitors...on STOCK VS STOCK machines in hillclimbs (conditions we ride in) facts are revealed quickly. So as a consumer it is SMART to compare qualified experienced riders results against each other..in a FAIR and controlled environment...and incorporate these FACTS into your buying decision.
any serious rider should be cool with that..
Now you want to bin the thread when FACTS get posted...and real data trumps fabricated or bias opinions
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i disagree rev, I climb and ride in powder,,not rocks, dirt and ice....is coool that the doo's did so good but isn't the kind of riding I personally do...
I knew it would never last.. It use to amuse me now i'm just bored by it... ZzZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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trench
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Oh! what they ride on rocks dirt and ice ? Takes a special kind'a machine
stable very grounded and alittle under powered. Thats why smalled cc sleds do better in these conditions...
stable very grounded and alittle under powered. Thats why smalled cc sleds do better in these conditions...
good one
LMAO!!
Wait until I get my boys spitfire out, going to be a shootout!!
LMAO!!
Wait until I get my boys spitfire out, going to be a shootout!!
spit fire, a classy rig i must say haha ''nothing runs like a deere'' we should host our own shoot out and show them new sleds were to go and how to get there.
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Slick
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Well as I said in the opening post, the comparison was done apples to apples, everyone IN ATTENDANCE agreed it was very fair, so please don't assume we didn't know what we were doing. And you're right, the facts were revealed quite quickly by a group of experienced riders and tuners. Now the reason we're disputing the results we WITNESSED is YOU have a need to believe the XP's will dominate every time, thats your agenda.
Me, I didn't care either way. I just wrote down what happened.
The fellas IN ATTENDANCE did a really good job of their evaluation, even though some of them have a brand loyalty that they had to put on the shelf for the afternoon.
They did that, its apparent you can't.
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Slick
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And as for the head to head ongoing comparison between the Dragon and XP, it would have been awesome to also have had an 08 162 M8 to include in the mix, but we didn't have one with us, so not possible. To have included the 07 Rev 159, the 06 RMK 900 159 and the Yammi's in the same aspects wouldn't have been apples to apples cause they're different sleds, different years and different cc's.
For the record ,the 07 800X did better than the RMK, but both were dominated by both the XP and D8 in pretty much all aspects.
The Yammi's were boosted.
For the record ,the 07 800X did better than the RMK, but both were dominated by both the XP and D8 in pretty much all aspects.
The Yammi's were boosted.
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Ron
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Doubt most D8's are tuned to the max yet because of clutch parts shortages. The right clutching makes a difference.
A lot of us took one other thing into consideration when we got rid of our 07 Summits-reliability. Maybe it doesn't bother some folks about excess engine failures & other shoddy workmanship but that's why I got rid of my Doo & bought a Polaris. If your sleds broke down most of the time then you aren't winning any races!!!
Looked to me like the 08 XP was going to be a repeat of the 07 Summit-which it is for the most part.
A lot of us took one other thing into consideration when we got rid of our 07 Summits-reliability. Maybe it doesn't bother some folks about excess engine failures & other shoddy workmanship but that's why I got rid of my Doo & bought a Polaris. If your sleds broke down most of the time then you aren't winning any races!!!
Looked to me like the 08 XP was going to be a repeat of the 07 Summit-which it is for the most part.
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johnny be bad
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ok maybe iam stupid? but where are all the big problems with the xp? what handwarmers? recalled gas tank? which none failed? bad belts? they warranty every single one, and now the377 works good. the only thing that i've seen bad was drive shafts and that seems to be hit and miss? oh sorry faulty reset button on trip meter! 900km and hasnt missed a beat! and for 08 theyve seemed to have fixed all the bad engines. only heard of a few, but have heard that from the other brands to! so what gives? i think its to much internet bs! and just plain old brand bashing!
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AKboondocker
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Did anyone mention yet that loud sleds close riding areas?
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DARKO
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LMAO, thats the most pathetic attempt at FACTS ive ever seen. Hahaha, oh boy i cant wait to take my 14k D8/XP and bash it over a pile of sh!t covered by rocks, ice and dirt, that will really tell me something about a MOUNTAIN sled. Jesus, you Jackson hole lovers dont have a clue what mountain riding is. Bring it to the DEEP pow, booning, climbing, downhill pow carv's etc and while your at it compare them for 20 rides to see "whats the best". They gotta run for all 20 days. I see trouble with 1 out of the 2 already LOL.
Enjoy rocking the rocks, i'll be in the POW thanks.
That's the first I've heard of it.
Yes they are both very impressive machines, I've ridden both. I have not had a chance to ride the xp in deep powder. With a little bit of setup snow the XP is scary at times when you are trying to sidehill. The sled wants to stay on both skis unless you put a lot of effort into it. The dragon on the other hand sidehills very easily with just a slight bit of countersteer. They both seem to climb about the same though. The xp seems to have a little bit better ride going through the bumps on a trail. I rode with 3 different xp's over the weekend and not one of them blew a belt, they all have the new belt. I seen one xp that tried to take out a tree but the thing kept on running with minimal damage. They do make a bit of engine/vibration noise but seem to have real good top end. The dragon has a more responsive engine with quite a bit of power everywhere. A well setup 07 800 summit x whooped both of them in a drag on a hard pack trail (that doesn't really matter though).
Hey Darko...
The hillclimb results are just a fun reference to get a rise out of a few Posers and those that argue...for the sake of argument. Don't read too much into that. Its just funny that Cat and Doo have the overwhelming bulk of the hillbilly wins,,,and yet people brand bash...as though they should never build another sled.. its friggen hilarious to read and watch these rants unfold
I actually ride 90% in 3 key areas... Brandywine Rutherford and Revy..
My sleds are purpose built for the steep and deep and at $23K and counting...here's hoping I won't be doing any hillbilly rock bashing soon
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